MAR
21
2006

Ark Linux 2006.1-rc1 Released with KDE 3.5.1

KDE distribution Ark Linux has released the first release candidate of version 2006.1. It includes the latest KDE 3.5.1, OpenOffice.org 2.0.2 with full KDE integration and Xorg 7.0. Starting with this version, Ark Linux uses amaroK 1.4 Beta as its default music player. KOffice 1.5 Beta is also part of this release with Krita as the graphics editor. Ark Linux is available for free download.

Comments

is it late...? where's my newly polished kde 3.5.2?


By andrew at Tue, 2006/03/21 - 6:00am

Where has 3.52 been released? I do not see it on the kde.org homepage.


By Shriramana Sharma at Tue, 2006/03/21 - 6:00am

rpm for suse ???????


By vicko at Tue, 2006/03/21 - 6:00am

Even 3.5.1 packages from SUSE are riddled with annoying bugs. Some KDEs, some SUSEs. Kontact crashes on exit, kicker crashes on exit, kates embedded terminal does not redraw whole window, kates 'find in files' always opens new file instead of already open one, kio_ldap is completely dead ('internal error'), kdesu's password saving does not work, ..


By Anonymous Coward at Wed, 2006/03/22 - 6:00am

Well, since they're unsupported packages, I guess maybe I can live with them.

What makes me wonder is that the 10.1 release seems to only work on KDE for backwards compatibility! (actually that would be forwards compatibility ;-) , but whatever). They provide KDE frontends to (most) of the new tools, but the new tools themselves are never KDE.

Btw, has it just become impossible to run a Qt only SuSE system? I mean ZenUpdater, which isn't even 'backwards compatible'. (Not that I'm running a Qt-only system myself, but that's not the point).


By ac at Wed, 2006/03/22 - 6:00am

Pragmatic approach: subscribe to suse-security-announce, stop zen-updater, rczmd stop


By Anonymous at Sat, 2006/03/25 - 6:00am

I've never had problems like Kontact crashing on exit.


By segedunum at Thu, 2006/03/23 - 6:00am

Try switching to PCLinuxOS download and instal or run from disk (install pretty easy) this distro auto updates easily and when updated it runs KDE 3.5.2 even prior to 3.5.2 this distro ran perfectly on two computers at home (and still does} with no problems. Plus KDE 3.5.2 looks pretty!!!


By David F at Thu, 2006/04/06 - 5:00am

KDE 3.5.2 has been given to packagers first for one week as usual.


By Anonymous at Tue, 2006/03/21 - 6:00am

There is no such thing as KDE 3.5.2 yet (if any distribution claims to have it, that's a lie, and probably a semi-random snapshot of the 3.5 SVN branch) -- but if it is released soon, it will be part of 2006.1 final.
We already include various fixes from post-3.5.1 SVN.


By Bernhard Rosenk... at Wed, 2006/03/22 - 6:00am

KDE 3.5.2 is tagged in SVN - it may be retagged before release as it already happened but it's far from a "semi-random snapshot".


By Anonymous at Wed, 2006/03/22 - 6:00am

Everybody else is offering Firefox, OpenOffice, etc? How does Ark Linux different from others? Is it just packages more recent?

What defenses Ark Linux deployed to stop virus, worm, Phishing/Pharming, remote hacking/hijacking attacks, etc. If you are looking forward to something new than package versions, its worth have a look at the Tomahawk Desktop (www.tomahawkcomputers.com), the multimedia Linux OS for desktops and laptops.

See this DesktopLinux.com article (http://desktoplinux.com/news/NS7069459557.html) to get a good understanding on Tomahawk Desktop.


By Anonymous at Tue, 2006/03/21 - 6:00am

http://www.arklinux.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_Linux
Good places to start.

The Tomahawk site isn't very good for comparing it against other distros, since most of the stuff on the site is about Linux in general, with very little about whats unique with Tomahawk specifically. Also the screenshot section shows very little other than wallpapers.


By Corbin at Tue, 2006/03/21 - 6:00am

Mmmm, spam. If, as it appears, tomahawk is a gnu/linux distro with distrbution of gpld software (kde, linux to name two) i suggest they review their software license because it doesn't look like the gpl to me


By anon at Tue, 2006/03/21 - 6:00am

The package management is neat...but I wouldn't ever use it. It
doesn't actually solve any of my real package management problems.


By Stanaland at Wed, 2006/03/22 - 6:00am

Ark Linux is different in various ideas -- generally improvements to make the system easy to install, learn and use for everyone while not taking away the features power users need, and remaining 100% Free Software.
For example, Ark Linux allows you to install packages without bothering to become root, through a special PAM setup that allows the main user to run graphical setup tools as root automatically.
Also, Ark Linux is 100% KDE centric.

All Linux systems are pretty much safe from virus/worm/... attacks - Ark Linux doesn't doesn't need to do anything special there.

Most of the "unique features" this Tomahawk thing boasts about sound like marketing misinformation, and many are actually bad ideas.
How do you implement dependency resolution if you don't keep a package database? e.g. a user didn't install GTK, but wants to use gimp. Not a problem for most -- "apt-get install gimp" (or yum/smart/urpm/.... on other distributions) will take care of it. But without keeping track of dependencies?

Other than that (and the fact that they claim generic Linux features as unique to their OS), their distribution doesn't look too bad either.


By Bernhard Rosenk... at Wed, 2006/03/22 - 6:00am

Can someone tell me if this distribution has MP3/DVD out of the box? What about nvidia closed drivers?


By blacksheep at Tue, 2006/03/21 - 6:00am

It has MP3/DVD/MPEG-4/... out of the box.

No closed source mess in a base install, but you can just "apt-get install nvidia" on a running system.


By Bernhard Rosenk... at Wed, 2006/03/22 - 6:00am

What's the point of using ark linux when lots of other distributions ship KDE? take gentoo, take freebsd, take pkgsrc from NetBSD which can be crosscompiled on lots of other architectures, take Slackware even.

Ark Linux is just a poor-piss distribution. The "developers" if you can call them like that, are not even able to create a decent installer. It's some sort of TCL/Tk interface which sucks a lot. It simply doesn't work. I couldn't get it installed and I simply dropped it. It's not worth it.
I think a curses-based installation menu (or even dialog-based) is everything the Ark devs need. Anyway, I don't give a shit on your crappy distribution. You say you ship the latest version of KDE and the fucking installer crashes like crazy.


By Andrei at Mon, 2006/03/27 - 6:00am

i HAVE to ask - are you entirely sure you're talking about the right distribution here? To me it seems one of two things have happened here: You were stupid enough to press the topmost button on the installer (the one with the big, red letters saying "THIS WILL ERASE EVERYTHING ON YOUR SYSTEM!") or well, you simply haven't got a clue what you're on about :)

Yes, it crashes from time to time on some hardware configurations (it's a zero-budget distribution, they simply don't have the ENORMOUS resources (mention i did not say money) required to test this sort of thing (something which is available to e.g. Gentoo, Fedora, Mandriva, Ubuntu) - and since the users don't report back the sort of problems you have encountered hey, how do you suspect they might get known about?). And, just to point out a piss-poor supposition made in your ranty and flame-bait prone post: The installer is based on Qt/Embedded and written in C++.


By Dan Leinir Turt... at Tue, 2006/03/28 - 6:00am

Weeh, i took the flamebait and ran around the block with it, it's miiiine now! ;D *ducks*


By Dan Leinir Turt... at Tue, 2006/03/28 - 6:00am

Ark is a fantastic distro which is designed to show off qt at it's finest, and IMO does just that. Sure suse, slackware, and most any distro will run kde...but Ark makes it stand out. The lack of gtk makes the apps integrate seamlessly and truely centralize the settings. Props to the devels :)


By Storyteller at Tue, 2006/03/28 - 6:00am