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Re: KDE2 release schedule update
by cockney on Thursday 28/Sep/2000, @00:58
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| I have 50 users beta testing KDE beta3 and I can tell you that there seems to be an endless amount of bugs. I know that I have probably subjected my users to this unstable environment too early, although I feel the version we are running now surpasses the KDE 1 series by far. I figured that we will all deal with the bugs until the final release of KDE 2.0. I live in hope that the KDE team has enough professionalism to release a fully functional, stable, desktop environment and that they will not fall short by releasing something that will cost my team hundreds of man hours to support because they could not wait until all critical and grave bugs are fixed. If they do release a broken environment or one that is even partially broken I may find myself installing Winblows on 50 machines and all of my debates with my bigoted users will have been in vain. The excuse that I give now is that it is not finished. What if they release KDE 2.0 and it still is not finished. I am sure I am not the only one in this situation. "Final" means "Final" to me. It sure looks pretty though. Good job Guys! |
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Re: KDE2 release schedule update
by Lenny on Thursday 28/Sep/2000, @04:48
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KDE beta3 and I can tell you that there seems to be an endless amount of bugs
Sorry, i can not feel pitty about you. Read my lips: _never_ use Beta-Software for prodcution systems. Beta-Software remains beta, even if its open-source.
And second: beta3 is some months old, even the latest beta5 is stone age compared against the recent cvs.
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Re: KDE2 release schedule update
by cockney on Thursday 28/Sep/2000, @16:26
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We have now up-graded to beta 5 and even the final versions of kde1.0 where not pruduction quality. So what you are saying is that I should never expect a production quality desktop environment from the open source community??
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Re: KDE2 release schedule update
by Haakon Nilsen on Friday 29/Sep/2000, @01:14
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He's simply saying it's a very bad idea to run ANY beta software in a production environment. As you seem to be in charge of lots of production computers, this should be basic knowledge. Unless, of course, you have hired 50 people for the sole sake of beta testing KDE2? ;)
KDE 2.0 will NOT be as stable as KDE 1.1.2 was. Likewise, KDE 1.1.2 was a LOT more stable and mature than KDE 1.0. If you didn't find KDE 1.1.2 to be of production quality, then frankly:
1) Try Windows ME instead (maybe Linux is not for you), or
2) Report or fix the bugs, or
3) Try the "other" desktop environment, or
4) Try the commercial Linux CDE (deXtop)
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Re: KDE2 release schedule update
by Stefan Heimers on Sunday 01/Oct/2000, @15:54
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Users will be disapointed when the released KDE 2.0 is less stable than KDE 1.1.2.
I think what the original poster wanted to say is that you should wait with the anouncement until KDE 2.0 is more stable than KDE1.1.2, where i do agree.
Adding features and neglecting stability is the Microsoft way to do things. An unstable final release of KDE 2 could spoil the reputation of open source. I have coleagues ho already complain, that Linux is not more stable and not faster than Windows (they mean Netscape, kfm 1.x, Staroffice, etc.). You now have the choice to teach them wrong or right!
Bye,
Stefan Heimers
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