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Re: Embedding external parts into KDE
by Nick on Friday 22/Dec/2000, @13:29

Reality check.. This argument does not hold water. If you don't like it, and you don't have the skills to improve it, then the best you can do is attempt to raise the issue. That's how things improve. Saying "If you don't like it, don't use it" is a rather ignorant argument. It's apparent that these people like KDE, but they want to see it improve. They are making good points about the direction KDE needs to go. Windows and KDE are in competition, and thus comparing the end user experience of KDE with Windows is a valid comparison. We all want KDE and the various platforms it supports to gain wider acceptance, and that will require it to surpass windows in functionality, speed, and ease of use.

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Re: Embedding external parts into KDE
by japy on Friday 22/Dec/2000, @22:31

>If you don't like it, and you don't have the >skills to improve it, then the best you can do >is attempt to raise the issue.

just like what i said, deliver constructive criticism, not simply complain about it and make it appear kde is totaly useless.

>Saying "If you don't like it, don't use it" is >a rather ignorant argument.

what would you feel when your favorite desktop is undersiege? saying "i used to run kde 1.1.2on my prehistoric computer and it works lightning fast, while suddenly when i install kde 2 it crawls" is what i believe a rather ignorant argument.

yes we all want kde to improve, but theres a proper place for this, and thats the bug tracking system. im sorry if i sounded so rude, i recognize that this is a disccusion and respect everyones opinion, but people wanting to switch to kde and wants to learn more first, might interpret all of this as sign that kde is not a worthy alternative.

besides this is dot.kde.org, AFAIK, this site gives out good news and information about the beauty of kde, we are suppose to thank the developers here, its very irritating just after you have read a nice news about kde, then people will flood in their misseries and griefs etc. (should'nt it be all addressed to complaints.kde.org?)

>Windows and KDE are in competition, and thus >comparing the end user experience of KDE with >Windows is a valid comparison.

i did not say they aren't, i said kde is totally different to windows, when it comes to design, windows is the operating system itself, which makes it more integrated with its compononents, on the other hand kde runs on top of x, which in turn runs on top of linux. windows can play tricks it wants with regards to resources, but kde can do only what it is permitted by x and linux respectively.

but of course, both are desktop, and that is where we can compare windows with kde: windows has intallshield, kde has ./configure, make, make install, kde has virtual desktops, windows doesn't, kde users are cute, windows user's aren't (ha ha ha) and many more. you see, we can only compare what we can see and feel on the outside, on the inside its totally different. and that is why kde's performance cannot be directly compared to windows, (not of course if we have a microsoft windows desktop environment for x!)

but lets simply agree on one thing nick, before we start a "words war", lets just be happy kde users!

may the force be with you all!

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