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Re: Embedding external parts into KDE
by Henrik on Thursday 21/Dec/2000, @08:39

Wow! That's just amazing!

it seems to me KDE is accomplishing something almost of this magnitude every two weeks or so. I'm writing this with antialiased fonts in all my Qt apps, something that most people thought impossible in X a year ago (ok, keithp of X fame has a lot more to do with that than KDE, but patching Qt to use antialiased fonts didnt take long)

Lets see - what other amazing things has KDE released since/with 2.0:
* Konqueror/khtml - Probably the best and fastest linux browser of today. It renders almost everything correctly. Only IE and Netscape work with more.
* Konqueror - Kickass file browser.
* KParts/DCOP - As good as microsofts component technologies (whatever they're called this week)
* Themes - Widget themes are fast and look good.
* KOffice - Far from being finished, it's already very useable.

and now this.. all i can say is wow! (again) :)

How will the gnomes and the redmondites ever manage to keep up with the trolls? :)

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Re: Embedding external parts into KDE
by Dom on Thursday 21/Dec/2000, @09:13

I don't want to flame, but rather alleviate ignorance here.

Gnome has:
* Galeon - Kickass web browser using GtkMozEmbed
* Nautilus - already fully usable and able to give Konqueror more than a run for its money
* Bonobo - a lot more sophisticated embedding framework than KParts (minus the recent X-Parts extension) or OLE2 for that matter
* Themes - on the GTK level and soon Gnome-wide
* Gnome Office - AbiWord and Gnumeric simply kick ass. And AbiWord is about to get a KDE port too.

I won't even go into how WinME compares, because you'll dislike that even more... KDE2 kicks some major ass. But I wouldn't discount Gnome or Windows as easily as you do.

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Re: Embedding external parts into KDE
by Henrik on Thursday 21/Dec/2000, @09:24

I won't even go into how WinME compares, because you'll dislike that even more... KDE2 kicks some major ass. But I wouldn't discount Gnome or Windows as easily as you do.

Gnome, Windows and KDE each have strong points, and there's a whole lot of cool code in Gnome. My intention wasn't to bash Gnome (or Windows for that matter - I agree that it probably has the best UI of the bunch today). The point I was trying to make is that the rate of progress of KDE is absolutly astounding..

-henrik

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Re: Embedding external parts into KDE
by Ergo on Thursday 21/Dec/2000, @12:35

Obviously I'm getting slightly off-topic here, but now that you brought up the gnome and redmondite falling behind thing, I suppose there's no harm in sharing my opinions.

Something that I really liked about Helix Gnome when I tried it, was the easy installation method. Download one installation binary, select the programs/packages you want, and voilá. Now that's something I'd really like to see in the next major KDE release.

I'm not sure whether it's possible to keep the packages up-to-date with Helix Gnome, but Windows Update seems work just fine for me at least. But it wouldn't be too hard to add it to the installation program, making KDE extremely easy to install and maintain, making it superior to Gnome and Windows in this sense too.

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Re: Embedding external parts into KDE
by Eric Veltman on Thursday 21/Dec/2000, @13:02

If anything changes about KDE installation, I
do hope that the installation "backend" doesn't
change. I like the current feature of most Linux
distributions which is called "package manager".
The package manager ( RPM or whatever ) should do
the work. I wouldn't like to see every suite of
programs implementing its own package manager,
because then it only becomes harder to manage
the software installed on your Linux system.

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Re: Embedding external parts into KDE
by Bernd on Thursday 21/Dec/2000, @23:31

I agree. I think installation via a packet manager ist th best way. I personally had some troubles with the Helix insatller on SuSE. KDE rpm installation was never a problem for me.

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Re: Embedding external parts into KDE
by baco on Thursday 21/Dec/2000, @13:29

How about using some kind of apt-frontend?
Apt works great, its clearly the most advanced package manager available. Besides, since apt is now able to handle rpm's there should be nothing to stop us from standarizing on it. Doing so would also stop us from duplicating effort, in creating yet another package management solution.

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Re: Embedding external parts into KDE
by John on Thursday 21/Dec/2000, @13:46

HelixGnome for Debian is an apt frontend. The HelixInstaller is generic enough that it would easily work with KDE packages. A port to QT would not be difficult.

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Re: Embedding external parts into KDE
by John on Thursday 21/Dec/2000, @13:48

HelixGnome for Debian is an apt frontend. The HelixInstaller is generic enough that it would easily work with KDE packages. A port to QT would not be difficult.

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Re: Embedding external parts into KDE
by Erik on Thursday 21/Dec/2000, @23:32

apt-get kdelibs3 (of course, you'd haveta be using debian) :-p

Erik

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Install KDE2 on debian
by Jason Katz-Brown on Friday 22/Dec/2000, @10:23

First of all you must run woody.
<p>
Then, # apt-get install task-kde
<p>
Then, you're done ;)
<p>
Jason

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