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Re: Java Mania: An Interview With Richard Dale
by kdeFan on Tuesday 27/Feb/2001, @18:43

Think of Java-the-language, not Java-the-platform. Admittedly, portability is one of Java's (language and platform) main reasons for existing, so it does sound silly to take away that advantage. But people, myself included, have found that they enjoy Java-the-language and would like to use it in situations where they would otherwise use C++. When the desire for a native KDE interface outweighs the desire for perfect portability, this development becomes very useful. I can do what I would with C++ in a language that I prefer.

In my view, this would really only be attractive if you could compile Java to a native executable just like C++ (etc.). Fortunately, the good folks of the gcj project are working on a compiler that turns java source or bytecode into native machine code. That gives me the choice of using Java as a hardware-independent platform when I want, and as a nice high-level compiled language when I want. If the jvm platform was suitable for all situations this wouldn't be necessary, but sometimes native binaries are preferable... particularly when speed is an issue or a native gui is required (which is what this development addresses).

Just my $.02

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Read my mind?
by Stentapp on Wednesday 28/Feb/2001, @05:21

You must have read my mind! This is probably the best KDE news since KDE 2.0! Java language is great, but not the platform, but with gcj, this will not matter. KDE + Java + gcj = COOL! Anyone who knows the state of gcj?

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Re: Read my mind? [GCJ]
by george moudry on Thursday 01/Mar/2001, @10:41

I would be nice if we got this to work under GCJ / CNI. I really like Microsoft's J++ (sorry) for the VB/KDevelop look and easy of use, a Qt/GCJ library could be the first viable competitor, IMHO. Gnome-GCJ is a distant third.

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Re: Java Mania: An Interview With Richard Dale
by 0 on Wednesday 28/Feb/2001, @20:08

Then put a JNI wrapper around Qt

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Re: Java Mania: An Interview With Richard Dale
by kdeFan on Wednesday 28/Feb/2001, @23:27

A jni wrapper would be nice so that non-native apps could have a native interface, true. Personally, I'm not interested in writing for the jvm, but I do like what I've seen of java and would like to use it as a typical hll. For my purposes, the wrapper mentioned above is perfect. JNI isn't really what I want, because the jni is intended to interface Java with native code. I want the java I write to *be* native code, hence a wrapper around qt is all I need. (I'm probably going to offend a lot of java people by saying that ;) -kdeFan

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Re: Java Mania: An Interview With Richard Dale
by kdeFan on Wednesday 28/Feb/2001, @23:28

-kdeFan

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