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Re: Why Java or Objective C Bindings are huge.
by SomeOtherGuy on Thursday 01/Mar/2001, @13:13

GNOME will never push Java
GNOME has bindings and a JNI layer so that swing can use the native Gtk. I personaly prefer KDE but Java support is one of those things that GNOME is way ahead in, and with SUN backing you can expect alot of GNOME Java support in the future. If you want to push a portable toolkit use swing and do a JNI wrap thats what it was made for. Also theres a library called wxWindows that looks kinda like MFC that can do Gtk, OSX, Win32, BeOS and theres a Qt port being worked on.

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Re: Why Java or Objective C Bindings are huge.
by Alex Hochberger on Thursday 01/Mar/2001, @13:14

Let me rephrase. While GNOME has a JNI layer, GNOME programmers/users/FSF-types/slashdotters will NEVER push GNOME. :)

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Re: Why Java or Objective C Bindings are huge.
by SomeOtherGuy on Thursday 01/Mar/2001, @18:50

Your rephrasing made you make even less sense, I can't tell what you mean, all I can get out of this is that people will never push the GNOME platform, which dosen't realy make sense. Sorry but can you please clarify?

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Re: Why Java or Objective C Bindings are huge.
by Alex Hochberger on Friday 02/Mar/2001, @10:03

Sorry, what I was trying to get at was that the people pushing GNOME (users, loudmouths, etc.) seem to have this hatred of Java. Part of this is political (GNOME started because of a dispute over QT licensing; while the real reason was RMS's admirable goals of a GNU system require a fully GPL'd solution, preferably under FSF's copyright), part is technology (GNOME/GTK is based upon C, and part of it was complaints about C++ and Object Oriented programming in general, if you wanted to build OO Apps, you'd be using KDE/QT before GNOME/GTK.

The point I'm getting at is the anti-Java, anti-OO, pro-GNOME faction, which is a REALLY loud vocal minority, will never make Java for GNOME seem like a Kosher option. They'll be major bitching and whining about anything significant being Java based, and how C was the epitomy of computer knowledge.

Does that make more sense or should I respond again?

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Re: Why Java or Objective C Bindings are huge.
by Robert on Saturday 10/Mar/2001, @11:15

Thanks for clearing but, but I wouldn't say anti-OO, if you have ever seen Gtk.

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Re: Why Java or Objective C Bindings are huge.
by Robert on Saturday 10/Mar/2001, @11:18

Thanks for clearing but, but I wouldn't say anti-OO, if you have ever seen Gtk.

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