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KDevelop 3.0 Now Developer-Ready

Posted by Navindra Umanee on Friday 06/Apr/2001, @15:01
from the mmm-lego dept.
Bernd Gehrmann writes: "As you may have noticed, the HEAD branch of KDevelop now contains Gideon which is very near to being usable and complete. This is not just another version of KDevelop, it's a big step forward: it's modular, it's extensible, it can support multiple languages, it has a project management feature that is usable for non-trivial projects. Gideon can be thought of as a a modular lego-like framework for an IDE that could be used to build a C++ IDE, a Python IDE, or even a web development platform. A complete C++ IDE is already in place." Gideon is the codename for KDevelop 3.0 and is already highly usable. This is your chance to get involved whether by contributing plugins or new features such as Python scripting. For more details, you can also check out Bernd's initial email as well as the screenshots (1, 2, 3, 4, 5). Note that KDevelop 2.0 is still based on the KDevelop 1.4 branch and is scheduled to ship with KDE 2.2. Update: 04/07 02:04 PM by N: According to KDE hacker Richard Dale, Gideon now also includes Java and Objective-C support.

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Re: KDevelop 3.0 Now Developer-Ready
by Henrik A on Friday 06/Apr/2001, @16:52

KDevelop is a nice enough IDE but the editor is severely lacking IMHO. I mean.. project handling, integrated docs and class browsers are all nice, but most of the work when programming is still typing. This is why i'm still sticking with emacs - mainly because it idents the code the way i want it without me having to fight it. Will Gideon have something more of powerful editor?

KWrite is severly lacking for programming.. kwrite vs emacs is like wordpad to word (in the windows world). I have nothing against kwrite, it's a fine editor - but not tailored specifically for programming.

-henrik

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Re: KDevelop 3.0 Now Developer-Ready by Roberto Alsina on Friday 06/Apr/2001, @21:08

Re: KDevelop 3.0 Now Developer-Ready by ac on Friday 06/Apr/2001, @21:29
Re: KDevelop 3.0 Now Developer-Ready by Bernd Gehrmann on Sunday 08/Apr/2001, @07:59

Re: KDevelop 3.0 Now Developer-Ready by Roberto Alsina on Monday 09/Apr/2001, @05:11

Re: KDevelop 3.0 Now Developer-Ready by Bernd Gehrmann on Monday 09/Apr/2001, @05:58

Re: KDevelop 3.0 Now Developer-Ready by Roberto Alsina on Monday 09/Apr/2001, @06:03

Re: KDevelop 3.0 Now Developer-Ready by n/a on Saturday 07/Apr/2001, @10:15

Re: KDevelop 3.0 Now Developer-Ready by Shawn Gordon on Sunday 08/Apr/2001, @12:40

Re: KDevelop 3.0 Now Developer-Ready by Wolfgang on Thursday 01/Aug/2002, @13:34

Re: KDevelop 3.0 Now Developer-Ready by Henri on Sunday 08/Apr/2001, @11:25

Re: KDevelop 3.0 Now Developer-Ready
by robert on Friday 06/Apr/2001, @17:32

KDevelop is nice, but an editor that can do auto-indention and code-insight stuff would be about 100 times cooler. I'm not realy sure how the progress on Kvim is but alot of work is being done to have Gtk and Qt use the same message loop and gvim works perfectly, and that means that since XEmacs is going to switch to Gtk that XEmacs could be used as an editor as well. Also for code-insight stuff, I once wrote something like that for Gtk but I deleted it some time ago, if I ever re-write it I'll probably mail it to one of the KDevelop people, and I'd be happy to help write one for KDevelop if it has little dependancy on Qt(I'm not a particular fan of the GPL either).

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Re: KDevelop 3.0 Now Developer-Ready by Dan Smart on Friday 06/Apr/2001, @18:00

Re: KDevelop 3.0 Now Developer-Ready by ac on Friday 06/Apr/2001, @18:05

Re: KDevelop 3.0 Now Developer-Ready by robert on Friday 06/Apr/2001, @19:33

Re: KDevelop 3.0 Now Developer-Ready by anon on Friday 06/Apr/2001, @21:51

Re: KDevelop 3.0 Now Developer-Ready by Anon on Saturday 07/Apr/2001, @06:45

Re: KDevelop 3.0 Now Developer-Ready by anon on Saturday 07/Apr/2001, @07:43

Re: KDevelop 3.0 Now Developer-Ready by ac on Friday 06/Apr/2001, @23:02

Re: KDevelop 3.0 Now Developer-Ready by robert on Saturday 07/Apr/2001, @02:17

Re: KDevelop 3.0 Now Developer-Ready by KDEBoy on Saturday 07/Apr/2001, @09:15

Re: KDevelop 3.0 Now Developer-Ready by AC on Saturday 07/Apr/2001, @12:01
Re: KDevelop 3.0 Now Developer-Ready by robert on Saturday 07/Apr/2001, @12:05

Re: KDevelop 3.0 Now Developer-Ready by Kuba Ober on Monday 11/Jun/2001, @22:09

xemacs/gtk not stable? by Thomas Stromberg on Sunday 08/Apr/2001, @12:37

Re: KDevelop 3.0 Now Developer-Ready by robert on Friday 06/Apr/2001, @19:51

Re: KDevelop 3.0 Now Developer-Ready
by KDE User on Friday 06/Apr/2001, @17:56

Congratulations! Trust the KDevelop guys to develop two branches at once!

I must say you guys really did a brave thing in deciding to put HEAD on hold and port KDevelop 1.2 to the KDE 2.x platform. Everyone wanted this and we all love you for doing it! Now we have KDevelop 1.4 a thing of beauty, next KDevelop 2.0, and then everybody's dreams will be realized with KDevelop 3.0.

Ignore your detractors and forge ahead! There is a big need for this project.

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YES !! by thil on Sunday 08/Apr/2001, @06:53

Developer-Ready?
by Justin on Friday 06/Apr/2001, @18:35

Clarification? So who are the developers here? I guess "users" of KDevelop are not developers in this sense, right? 3.0 is maybe ready for people to develop _for_ it, but not for people to develop _with_ it?

-Justin

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Re: Developer-Ready? by nap on Saturday 07/Apr/2001, @10:32

Re: Developer-Ready? by Richard Dale on Saturday 07/Apr/2001, @11:03

Re: KDevelop 3.0 Now Developer-Ready
by Jesse on Friday 06/Apr/2001, @21:29

I havent played around with Kdevelop for a while because of the several aformentioned inconvieniences. I was wondering though if KDevelop has extensive context sensitive support and other code-helpers? Like the kind of integration you would get with Visual Assist with VC++?? Visual Assist IMHO, is a very good model to mimick, as every feature makes _every_ single task you do 10x faster and that much more usefull.

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Vim support
by bram on Friday 06/Apr/2001, @23:52

I hope we gonna get the possibility to use a vim like editor in kDevelop. Would be a nice combination I think.

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bram

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Re: Vim support by bgb on Sunday 08/Apr/2001, @10:49
Re: Vim support by Michael on Sunday 08/Apr/2001, @16:00

Re: Vim support by Lada on Thursday 10/May/2001, @00:10

Re: Vim support by celer on Monday 09/Apr/2001, @07:11

Great!
by Kirby on Saturday 07/Apr/2001, @06:32

Cool! Does this mean KDevelop can be fully integrated with Gnome technologies like Glade?

And what about automake/autoconf integration?
I never liked KDevelop's autoconf/automake system.
It caused a lot of compilation problems on other systems the last time I used KDevelop.

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Re: Great! by Richard Dale on Saturday 07/Apr/2001, @11:08

Re: Great! by Felek on Saturday 07/Apr/2001, @14:04

Re: Great! by Bernd Gehrmann on Sunday 08/Apr/2001, @08:06

:-D by Kirby on Monday 09/Apr/2001, @06:07

Does it support Emacs-like searching
by Erik on Sunday 08/Apr/2001, @14:29

The reason I don't use any KDE editor yet is that I like the Emacs-style searching. You type the word you search for and Emacs stars searching immediately. Often you don't have to type the whole word. In KDE editors you have to type the whole word i a dialog box and then search. That irritates me. Just as bad as when I used Windows.

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Re: Does it support Emacs-like searching by Bernd Gehrmann on Sunday 08/Apr/2001, @15:12
Re: Does it support Emacs-like searching by Erik on Sunday 08/Apr/2001, @15:23

superior GUI? by Mike M. on Monday 09/Apr/2001, @00:08

Re: superior GUI? by Erik on Monday 09/Apr/2001, @01:22
Re: superior GUI? by Bernd Gehrmann on Monday 09/Apr/2001, @02:00

Re: Does it support Emacs-like searching by Bernd Gehrmann on Monday 09/Apr/2001, @02:30

Target platform interface ?
by Johan on Monday 09/Apr/2001, @04:08

It would be nice if it could be prepared so the it can be used as an IDE/debugger for a target platform, connected via serial bus for instance.

It if was prepared for this, chip vendors would have a standard platform to write connection modules for their development boards.

This would, more than anything else boost Linux as an embedded system development platform.

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Re: Target platform interface ? by Bernd Gehrmann on Monday 09/Apr/2001, @05:03

Re: KDevelop 3.0 Now Developer-Ready
by C. D. Thompson-Walsh on Wednesday 11/Apr/2001, @17:10

Two idle things
1) Why Gideon? Just curious...
2) I'd like to register my vote in favour of strong (EMACS/ViM-style) code-editing basics. I'm sorry, but I think Visual Assist is silly :-), and only feasible in VBasic...

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What would be really cool..
by Programmer guy on Saturday 09/Jun/2001, @21:52

..would be if they would gut the code from vim to handle editing. Since most editors like vim/emacs work on buffers now anyway, how hard would it be to make a 'virtual buffer' layer that looks like a standard buffer to the original editor code but manages a editing window instead? It would sure make a damn nice KDE widget..

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