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Re: how about making upgrades easier
by rsv on Tuesday 10/Apr/2001, @21:46
Very true! I am using SuSE linux 7.0 (previously used RH6.2, so had to get used to SuSE first). I always end up downloading a version of kde just when the next version is released. It takes nearly 2 nights and a fat phone bill (coupled with angry relatives complaining that the phone is engaged) to download kde fully. Couldn't get the sources to compile (I saw the solution in the compilation faq tho'), so I used the SuSE rpms. These weren't very friendly either. I finished downloading kde2.1 just when 2.1.1 was released. Then I see reviews of the next kde and curse myself. *damn*
I am mostly using konqueror now (works even better than IE bundled with Windows ME, particularly with ftp). Konqueror is great for everyday use, but lacks the one feature I would like, ie a good download manager. I have to switch to windows to use Flashget, which seems to make the best use of the bandwidth available to me. Is there a download manager for kde2.1? I used Caitoo from kde1.2 but did not like it much.

My first post to the dot using konqueror.
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download manager
by Louis on Wednesday 11/Apr/2001, @01:01
Hi, there are several good download managers (with stop/restart in case connection breaks) on Linux. a text based is wget which is very reliable. I believe there are front-ends for it, go take a look at apps.kde.org. The one I use is 'Downloader for X' (nt) which is not kde and not wget but easy to use:
http://www.krasu.ru/soft/chuchelo/

don't use Win for theese tasks because it is no good staying 2 nights online whith that OS, unless you like getting in trouble ;-)

have fun,
Louis
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Re: how about making upgrades easier
by Craig Black on Wednesday 11/Apr/2001, @03:42
The coolest downloader i use is kwebget. It works great for grabing whole ftp sites. You can pick it up here.

http://www.kpage.de/en/index.html

Craig
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Re: how about making upgrades easier
by Amibug on Wednesday 11/Apr/2001, @03:44
I think some of us are missing the point that you dont _have_ to update KDE if you dont want to. Just because 2.1.1 comes out 2 months after 2.1 it dosent mean you _have_ to download it.
You can adopt a policy of downloading every second or third release. Sure updates could be compiled for older versions of KDE but that would create quite a bit more work, and at any rate its up to the Distributions to do that, not KDE
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Re: how about making upgrades easier
by Johan Veenstra on Wednesday 11/Apr/2001, @04:01
You may want to look into compiling KDE from source. Once you've downloaded the source, cvsup only gets the changes (and these are compressed as well).

About the download manager: wget should be all you need, but I suspect your ISP is a complete crap, so a download manager could bbe usefull.

Johan V.
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