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Re: Gideon Development Update
by Bernd Gehrmann on Saturday 09/Jun/2001, @13:03
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IMO, GnomeMDI isn't the answer to all ui
questions. It is designed for applications that
have only one type of document, view resp. In
an IDE you want to browse source code and
documentation at the same time, or you want to
work with two source code windows side by side.
Also, tabs become unusable when there is a large
number of them.
OTOH, KDevelop's user interface will certainly
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Re: Gideon Development Update
by dc on Saturday 09/Jun/2001, @19:36
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It's just an example.
BTW, GnomeMDI for GNOME 2.0 supports Window-in-Window like QT/Winblow$ does.
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Re: Gideon Development Update
by me on Sunday 10/Jun/2001, @00:44
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> BTW, GnomeMDI for GNOME 2.0 supports
> Window-in-Window like QT/Winblow$ does.
If I have anything to do with it, that shit is being removed. It's ugly as fuck.
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Re: Gideon Development Update
by dc on Sunday 10/Jun/2001, @05:28
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If you want to troll, go to Slashdot.
All the deprecated code is already removed from gnome-libs in CVS.
Only good code is left, which mean the window-in-window MDI mode (which is optional) is good code.
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Re: Gideon Development Update
by Bernd Gehrmann on Sunday 10/Jun/2001, @14:41
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He isn't trolling, he is fully right. Drawing
window decorations is the window manager's job.
Imitating that by the application will always
suck. It doesn't integrate with the window
manager's look and feel, it uses different
buttons for maximizing or closing windows, and
it doesn't adjust to the window manager's focus
policy.
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Re: Gideon Development Update
by dc on Sunday 10/Jun/2001, @18:27
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No, he isn't. The Window-in-Window mode is just one of the many modes in GnomeMDI.
You can also choose for the Toplevel or Tab mode.
So there's nothing one can complain about.
Besides, QT and KDE also do the Window-in-Window thing.
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Re: Gideon Development Update
by Bernd Gehrmann on Sunday 10/Jun/2001, @19:06
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Somehow I get the impression that gnome advocates
can not read. Here it is again:
>> BTW, GnomeMDI for GNOME 2.0 supports
>> Window-in-Window like QT/Winblow$ does.
>If I have anything to do with it, that shit is >being removed. It's ugly as fuck.
That's what you responded to. So you are
trolling, not him.
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Re: Gideon Development Update
by dc on Monday 11/Jun/2001, @04:36
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I don't believe him. How does he know that that code is "shit" and is being removed?
Link to mailing list archive please.
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Some People Really Can't Read
by Martijn Klingens on Monday 11/Jun/2001, @08:42
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> How does he know that that code is "shit" and is being removed?
He doesn't know any of those because he said neither of those! Re-read the original message again:
> > If I have anything to do with it, that shit is being removed. It's ugly as fuck.
He only sais that _IF_ he was concerned he'd vote to get Window-in-Window MDI out, not that someone actually decided to do so!
Also he _NEVER_ said the code was ugly, only that the Window-in-Window MDI itself is ugly.
*sigh* Please read what people say first and don't take everything personally. It would make your life so much easier...
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Re: Gideon Development Update
by me on Tuesday 12/Jun/2001, @07:45
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How do I know it's shit?
I used it.
It's ugly.
It may be good code, but the end results are nothing to be proud of.
And your assertion that only "good code" is left in gnome-libs is just laughable.
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Re: Gideon Development Update
by me on Tuesday 12/Jun/2001, @11:22
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Ignore the above post. It's posted by a troll who stole my nickname.
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Re: Gideon Development Update
by me on Tuesday 12/Jun/2001, @20:09
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Oh no it wasn't
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Re: Gideon Development Update
by me on Monday 18/Jun/2001, @13:36
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Oh yes it was. Now shut up and go steal others' nicknames.
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Re: Gideon Development Update
by robert on Sunday 10/Jun/2001, @14:04
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No MDI works well with a large number of files, all implimentations will suck becuase there is no perfect way to do it. Also Gtk 2.0 supports Doc/View very well, Qt Doc/View is difficult.
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Re: Gideon Development Update
by Bernd Gehrmann on Sunday 10/Jun/2001, @14:34
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No, it does not work well with a large number of
files. As soon as you have perhaps 5 files open,
the tabs won't fit into the window width (on a
usual 17" monitor) and you have to scroll. And
scrolling a tab bar is a lot slower than choosing
a file from a popup menu.
For the other statement, I suggest you go
trolling on gnotices.
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Re: Gideon Development Update
by ik on Sunday 10/Jun/2001, @17:16
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you also can place tabs on two or more rows (like together do). that way you can access a lot of files really fast
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Re: Gideon Development Update
by Bernd Gehrmann on Sunday 10/Jun/2001, @19:12
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And at the same time you fill valuable vertical screen space with your tab rows.
Besides, you can reach the same effect by putting
buttons with all file names in a tool bar. In
this way, you don't restrict the user interface
to one show one file at a time, which is what
tabs do.
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Re: Gideon Development Update
by ik on Sunday 10/Jun/2001, @19:40
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i have no problem sacrificing screen space to be able to reach every file in one click (because when coding, i really have to switch a lot, and 90% of the procedures i write are really small, so i can see a whole procedure in together in an editor window that takes less than 50% of the screen (i also have an uml class view open)
anyway ... seems we ran into a matter of taste yet again :) configurability for president !
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Re: Gideon Development Update
by Alexander Kuit on Monday 11/Jun/2001, @10:39
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I agree that it quite annoying to have more than one mouse click to switch to another source file. The tabbed editor in KDE Studio provides a nice solution in my opinion, but it is probably a matter of taste. The ultimate solution could be to make it configurable (I know, it seems to be the solution for everything ;-)
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