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Re: KDE 2.x Systems
by Rik Hemsley on Sunday 01/Jul/2001, @19:10
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KDE 1.1.2 also runs on Windows, albeit in an alpha-quality form. Work on porting KDE 2.0 run seems to be making good progress.
See http://cygwin.kde.org
I'm quite keen to see this happen. It would be no use to me personally, but it's a challenge and I'm sure people can think of reasons why (or why not) this should be done.
Currently I'm wondering whether KDE should be ported to Qt-NonCommercial ('natively') or whether using the cygwin layer is the best idea.
Using cygwin would make the port easier and also allow us to avoid having to maintain so much cross-platform code, however using Qt-NC would mean no compatibility layer (perhaps slightly faster - though I can't imagine cygwin adds much) and also no X server needed.
Perhaps it might be possible to have XFree-Cygwin 'detach' windows ? That would allow KDE apps to run 'inside' the Windows desktop - just like apps using Wine can on Linux.
Rik
p.s. Major kudos to the talented hacker ('habacker') who has obviously been working very hard on this project. |
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Re: KDE 2.x Systems
by not me on Monday 02/Jul/2001, @00:22
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>Currently I'm wondering whether KDE should be ported to Qt-NonCommercial ('natively') or whether using the cygwin layer is the best idea.
Why not both? QT/Non-Commercial is obviously the better choice for display as it can co-exist w/ normal Windows apps on the same desktop, and it's probably faster too. However, the Cygwin libraries would provide a Linux-like environment for the things that KDE does that are unrelated to QT (Cygwin is _much_ more than an XFree port) and therefore reduce the porting needed. Best of both worlds!
If someone ported KWin too, KDE could form a complete shell-replacement, like Litestep. And if KDE started catching the attention of the Litestep-using crowd, it could only be a good thing. For one, it would mean a HUGE increase in the number of available, good themes ;-)
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Re: KDE 2.x Systems
by Philippe Fremy on Monday 02/Jul/2001, @06:54
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Gygwin gcc has one restriction: all program produced with it must be GPLed. So you can't distribute a binary version of konqueror that was compiled this way, with Qt-NC, because you can not change the license of konqi to add exception for Qt. We are back to license nightmares.
However, mingw32 doesn't have this restriction. But you must first convince trolltech to release a QT-NC for mingw32 and cygwin. Currently, they only provide binary for msvc.
I would love to use Konqi and KOffice at work, under windows.
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Re: KDE 2.x Systems
by Harold Hunt on Monday 02/Jul/2001, @22:00
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>Gygwin gcc has one restriction: all program produced with it must be GPLed. So you can't
>distribute a binary version of konqueror that was compiled this way, with Qt-NC, because you
>can not change the license of konqi to add exception for Qt. We are back to license nightmares.
Not true. Cygwin is not licensed under the GPL per se, it is licensed under a modified GPL which specifically allows linking of libcygwin1.a to Open Source programs without requiring that those programs be licensed under the GPL.
http://cygwin.com/licensing.html
Please don't spread such misinformation. I love KDE, and I develop for Cygwin/XFree86, and I'd really hate to see KDE on Cygwin held up because people hadn't read the Cygwin license carefully :)
Harold
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