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Screenshots?
by Dude on Thursday 05/Jul/2001, @05:54
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Anyone have screenshots of this thing?
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Re: KDE 2.2beta1: Ready to Roll
by mpattonm on Thursday 05/Jul/2001, @07:23
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Whow... KDE2.2 is gonna rock!
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Re: KDE 2.2beta1: Ready to Roll
by mpattonm on Thursday 05/Jul/2001, @07:24
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Whow... KDE2.2 is gonna rock!
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Re: KDE 2.2beta1: Ready to Roll
by maxwest on Thursday 05/Jul/2001, @07:28
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oh my god,
this rocks, ford better has a close look :-).
the personalizer is a great move (just there is no undo yet :-).
i'm always amazed in how many areas (small and large) changes happen. all these improvements have a time to market vendors even don't dream about.
for sure these are some of the great benefits of open source that gives it the capability to move beyond other "software business plans".
thanks to the community.
maxwest
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Re: KDE 2.2beta1: Ready to Roll
by Andras on Thursday 05/Jul/2001, @08:15
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Actually I tried the latest snapshot two days ago, but it crashes a lot of time (font selection in KControl and during printing). I thought that it's a good idea to use the latest beta and report the bugs (if they are present) for this one, so I downloaded it (yesterday and today). But there is a problem:
The kdesupport package is missing both from the source and Suse 7.1 directory, and the when I configure the kdelibs, it claims that I will not have sound without the kdesupport.
Do we really need it (I think we do)? Now I'm trying to use the snapshot version of the kdesupport.
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Re: KDE 2.2beta1: Ready to Roll
by Aronnax (Acqua Theme designer) on Thursday 05/Jul/2001, @08:16
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Someone has noticed that kdenetwork* RPM packages for Mandrake 8.0 of KDE2.2beta1 are missing?
Best regards.
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Attention SuSE Linux users!
by Jonas Koch Bentzen on Thursday 05/Jul/2001, @08:24
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SuSE Linux users might find that KDM (the login thingy) doesn't work after they have installed the new KDE 2.2beta1: The keys simply do not work, so it's impossible to enter your password. The solution is to push Menu -> Restart X Server - then the keys will work. To avoid that in the future, you could change the KDM settings to allow automatic login. Within KDE, push K -> Preferences -> System -> Logon. Choose the last tab in the menu and enable automatic login for your user.
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Re: KDE 2.2beta1: Ready to Roll
by wim bakker on Thursday 05/Jul/2001, @08:49
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It's great,
I wonder, would it be possible to get it compiled against qt-3.0.0-beta2????
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Re: KDE 2.2beta1: Ready to Roll
by ac on Thursday 05/Jul/2001, @08:54
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With every new KDE release the number of pro-KDE and anti-GNOME trolls increases...
(while the entire overhyped GNOME vs KDE war was only invented by trolls who have nothing else to do)
Let's hope this article doesn't reach Slashdot.
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Mosfet Does it again!!
by KDE_User on Thursday 05/Jul/2001, @09:03
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---- Found this on mosfet site ---------
Update (7/01): Actually, this isn't entirely true anymore. While everything will still remain free software, I'm going to switch to the modified QPL (some of the commerical restrictions will be removed). I'm being forced to do this because I've just been notified of KDE developer's intent to fork code that I never even had in CVS and add it to the KDE packages. It seems anything I do is subject to immediate forking by the KDE team and unofficial versions included in the base packages as a matter of procedure. If I don't want my code there they will just fork it, which has been their right but forks are usually done to add features or fix bugs. In the case of KDE2.2 this code has less features and more bugs! In many cases they didn't even rename their forks, so it makes it difficult for users to tell which versions are the ones in KDE CVS and not officially maintained by the author, and which ones are my versions and maintained by the original developer. Some developers even had the nerve to say *my* versions are the forks, even though I'm the primary author and copyright holder! Nonsense.
Thus the switch to QPL. The following software is going to be re-released under the QPL: Highcolor default, KDEStep, Laptop, Liquid, MegaGradient, ModernSystem, System, and Marble. Sorry for the inconvience this may have caused if this is a problem for you. Of course, KDE has the right to distribute forks based on obselete versions of my software, which were BSD licensed. The new license *will* be enforced for future versions, nonetheless. This is a shame, because I do truly believe the most effective development model is completely open, but this is not the case when the people designing the platform your developing for consistently take inferior versions of your code and add it to the system against your wishes instead of letting users just use your versions instead. It wouldn't be so bad if some independent coder decided to just fork my stuff and release worse versions, I really don't mind competition - but when the entire platform your developing for decides to do it simply because you've decided to start developing independently and adds less features and bugfixes you have a problem.
--- End of Message
I guess someone from KDE Developement Team can clarify rhis to stop this FUD
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Why RedHat-RPMs late?
by Till on Thursday 05/Jul/2001, @09:35
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i'm just wondering why the binary-RPMs for the RedHat-Distribution are "late"? who is doing the RPMs? the distributors? is redhat lazy?
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Why RedHat-RPMs late?
by Till on Thursday 05/Jul/2001, @09:35
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i'm just wondering why the binary-RPMs for the RedHat-Distribution are "late"? who is doing the RPMs? the distributors? is redhat lazy?
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FreeBSD port?
by Chucky on Thursday 05/Jul/2001, @09:42
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Anyone who happens to know when (if?) the FreeBSD port will appear?
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Re: KDE 2.2beta1: Ready to Roll
by Mattias on Thursday 05/Jul/2001, @09:52
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Oh man, I wish I had more synonyms for superlative forms of "good"! :)
Seriously, the KDE project has to be the single most impressive Open Source project ever (rivalled perhaps by GNU), and the one that is likely to inspire the most people to switch to Open Source desktops. If there's any technological reason in the world, everyone should be perfectly able to make a fulltime switch from windows any day. The only exclusion being people wanting to run new games which require DirectX, though that might not be true for a very long time, considering the impressive progress of Wine.
Not only is KDE technically proficient, but it is also perfectly possible to make it look better than commercial desktops (win XP, OS X, etc.), thanks to the incredibly talented artists in the KDE project.
Actually, I can't think of a single desktop "core" task possible in any other desktop environment, be it commercial or non-commercial, closed source or open source, etc, that isn't also possible to do with KDE. A lot of times, the power and freedom of choice are even greater in KDE than in its "counterparts", such as the almost infinite configuration possibilities and incredible flexibility of in particular kicker and konqueror.
And on top of that, we have great apps, of which many are conveniently gathered at apps.kde.com. We have a great office suite with the K in it, we have administration programs, we have nicely integrated utilities for archiving, document viewing, media playing, etc, we have CD burning, scanning... I could go on for ages.
Words shouldn't be needed to counter the argument that desktop linux is dead. Simply showing all the greatness we have should quench all possible doubt to linux desktop viability.
The inevitable conclusion would have to be:
The desktop is ready to be konquered. :)
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Re: KDE 2.2beta1: Ready to Roll
by Jasper on Thursday 05/Jul/2001, @10:13
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Cool !
Has something been done about overall KDE speed ?
(Meaning startup time of KDE and applications)
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Cool Konqueror
by Alain on Thursday 05/Jul/2001, @11:27
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> Konqueror enhancements include stopping animated GIFs (thank you, thank you!!)
No irritating animations, oh yes, thank you !
More important : I hope it is possible to shut up sounds !
Also about Konqueror :
- cookies management : I wish it is possible to delete all cookies, excepted for allowed domains (accepted hosts)
- File manager, right button : possibility to copy the path/name of the file (for then pasting elsewhere)
- Ability to delete all favicons, so that they will be generated again (Ok, I know it is already possible by going on the good directory and deleting them, but it would be more easier with a parameter)
- I hope that java and Flash will be installed by default
Bravo for the new and next enhancements !
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Re: KDE 2.2beta1: Ready to Roll
by Janne on Thursday 05/Jul/2001, @12:00
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The startup-slowness reminded me.... I have a weird problem with my 2.1.2. When KDE starts up, the "restoring session" (if I remember correctly. the last think it loads when KDE starts) flashes for a long time. If I try to launch applications, it disappears and everything works like it should. Not fatal, but annoying.
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The File Dialog - superbe!
by ac on Thursday 05/Jul/2001, @12:09
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This is great - customisable to ones best behaviour
cool stuff really!
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Problems with SSL (HTTPS etc.) support?
by Toastie on Thursday 05/Jul/2001, @12:21
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Note - this version (KDE 2.2beta1) requires the development package in OpenSSL to *run* (not to do development). If you want HTTPS sites to work, install the openssl-devel RPM package on RedHat and other RPM-based systems, or libssl-dev package on Debian-based systems.
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Compiling KDE 2.2beta1 on solaris with gcc 2.95.2
by CPH on Thursday 05/Jul/2001, @13:46
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Here are some of the problems I've encountered while trying to get things to compile.
NOTE: I have not yet started this version
ar assumed to be gnu-tar in kdeartworks
kdenetworks:
added to lanbrowsing/lisa/netscanner.cpp
#ifndef INADDR_NONE
#define INADDR_NONE (-1)
#endif
in lanbrowsing/kcmlisa/findnic.cpp to get /usr/include/sys/sockio.h included by ioctl.h :
#ifdef USE_SOLARIS
#define BSD_COMP
#endif
in kdevelop kdevelop/Makefile need to change LEXLIB to
LEXLIB=-lfl
While not strictly part of KDE 2.2beta1 -
in koffice kivio/kiviopart/ui/kivioabout.cpp line 3304 it seems that the license string
is too big and does not get a closing ") );
Is this a limitation of the number of chars the sed command can take on solaris ?
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Konqueror does not work
by Jon Doud on Thursday 05/Jul/2001, @14:44
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When I upgrade to the new version, konqueror stops working. All I get is an error message "Unknown Host [sitename]" for every site I browse to. I know that it is related to KDE because browsing works fine in KDE 2.1.1, and I can got back to KDE 2.1.1 and browsing will work fine again.
System:
Mandrake 8.0
KDE 2.2beta2 -- built from source
Has anyone else seen this problem?
Jon Doud
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No cute release name?
by Karl Garrison on Thursday 05/Jul/2001, @14:58
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It seems like all previous KDE releases had a nickname for the release. Have they ended this practise, or did I miss the release name this time?
-Karl
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Congratulations KDE Team
by KDE User on Thursday 05/Jul/2001, @15:20
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Once you use this, you cannot go back! Everything else is inferior now.
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Re: KDE 2.2beta1: Ready to Roll
by saj on Thursday 05/Jul/2001, @19:02
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Please could someone tell me why kdelibs complains that I need libxml2-2.3.9 or > even though I've already got libxml2-2.3.13 and the devel package as well.
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Re: KDE 2.2beta1: Ready to Roll
by Erik Hill on Thursday 05/Jul/2001, @19:15
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Can someone please help me with installing this newest beta on Mandrake 8.0? I have a fairly standard installation of Mandrake on a Toshiba Satellite 2805-S202 laptop. I downloaded all of the RPM's for Mandrake 8.0, and tried to use rpm -Uvh on the new kdelibs. It had several broken dependancies. I tried to use MandrakeUpdate, but for some reason I got a "all packages unreadable" error. I was logged in as root when I ran MandrakeUpdate and also when I ran rpm -Uvh. Is there an rpm tool which just automatically runs around and finds and installs all of the dependancies for you (other than MandrakeUpdate which I can't seem to get to work)? Otherwise, this is going to take 10 years to fix!
Erik
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Re: KDE 2.2beta1: Ready to Roll
by Marcus Reuss on Thursday 05/Jul/2001, @19:44
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This one rocks!!
It's a never ending story, KDE team always makes me feel like a little child with every new release. After removing old files in /tmp KDE started with a nice config dialog and full screen antialiasing, fading menues, preview of audio-files (although audiocd slave still does not work), greater speed and a much more professional look. This peace of code is so damn good it should be commercial. ;)
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Problem compiling kdebase package
by Dromtom on Thursday 05/Jul/2001, @20:21
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it seems that a header file is missing in kcontrol/input :
kmousedlg.h
does anybody else miss this file ? wonder what happend to it. hm.
i downloaded the src archives of the kde2.2beta1 release.
thanks
dromtom
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SuSE RPMs disappeared?
by Evan "JabberWokky" E. on Thursday 05/Jul/2001, @22:42
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What happened to the SuSE RPMs? The directories are now empty.
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Suse RPM problems
by Andras on Friday 06/Jul/2001, @05:33
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I took home yesterday the Suse RPM's for 7.1 and I tried to upgrade my kde 2.1.1 (with 2.1.2 kdelibs). Due to some dependency and conflict problems after a while I've uninstalled the old kde, I've removed the /opt/kde2 dir and installed the 2.2b1 again. I also created a new user in order to have a clean $HOME dir. But I have aproblem with noatun/arts. When KDE starts, I can hear the startup sound and I can play MP3's with xmms if I select the "arts" output plugin. But if I start the noatun it complains the unix:///tmp/mcop-usernam/mcop* file is not avaliable or something like that (I don't know the exact error message, because I don't have my laptop here). Ater this, even the xmms refuses to work, complaining about an arts initialization error.
Another problem, which may be releated is, that if I enable the debug messages for arts, sometimes (during login, or when restarting the artsd), I got a lot (~120) error dialog boxes with a message like "file format in /opt/kde2/share/sounds/ is not supported/avaliable" (sorry again for the incorrect message text), altough the startup sound is in that directory, and I can play them by using "cat filename > /dev/dsp". Any idea? Should I send a bug report (of course, after I make some notes about the exact situation and error messages)?
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A couple of questions about Konqueror
by Konqi on Friday 06/Jul/2001, @09:03
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I think Konqueror is great, but there are some things that annoys me:
Why is it that once a image has started loading it is impossible to interrupt the download? The animated gif support is also pretty bad, sometimes sucking up 100% of the CPU and making the gifs animate way too fast. Is this a bug in QT? Apart from this it rocks.
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Red Carpet
by ac on Friday 06/Jul/2001, @09:18
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Will KDE packages ever appear on a Red Carpet channel?
I don't see the problem and I really don't see why Ximian will try to stop that.
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Looks great!
by Rikard Anglerud on Friday 06/Jul/2001, @10:42
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THe KDE artists team have _really_ done a great job with this release. THe personalizer just looks scrumptious!
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Problem with font selection
by Bastardo on Friday 06/Jul/2001, @12:10
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I have another problem with the SuSE 7.1 packages; the font selection does not work - no font names are listed.
Did anybody else experience that ?
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Re: KDE 2.2beta1: Ready to Roll
by Scott on Friday 06/Jul/2001, @19:51
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Anyone else thing the flashing black and white background that's hour-glass-like is about as attractive as an animated gif?
I think it's a great idea to have the symbol indicating the application, but I could do without the flashing. Is there a way to turn it off? I somehow magically hoped this would have disappeared from the recent CVS build that I did.
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First impressions on KDE 2.2beta1
by Pedro Ziviani on Friday 06/Jul/2001, @21:17
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Lots of nice surprises on this release... even though it's not quite there yet, JavaScript support in Konqueror has improved a lot and now I can finally do everything on my Yahoo Mail account through Konqui. The "Archive Webpages" option also rocks. I was pleased to see the many improvements on both Kasbar and the Dock Application both, both work flawlessly now. Konsole finally handles transparent backgrounds properly. I like the transparent menus on the "Multigradient" style, but it would be nice to be able to inverse it, i.e. having a bright background and dark text, making the menus look more like MacOS X's. In all I must say I'm very pleased with KDE 2.2beta1, well done KDE-team!
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Re: KDE 2.2beta1: Ready to Roll
by Daniel on Friday 06/Jul/2001, @21:29
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The Kdebase package for Mandrake 8.0 in ftp site has 36 MB.
The kdebase for SUSE has 15 MB.
The same is for the other packages.
Which are the differences?
Thanks.
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Re: KDE 2.2beta1: Ready to Roll
by Erika Hill on Saturday 07/Jul/2001, @02:19
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I have a laptop and when I installed this new kde beta, my sub-pixel rendering stopped working. Regular anti-aliasing works, but even though my Xresources is still set correctly (Xft.rgba: rgb) it will not render sub-pixel. Does anyone know what might be wrong?
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Memory usage?
by Vincent Janelle on Saturday 07/Jul/2001, @15:16
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Did they lower the memory usage on this thing? I was swapping on a system with 384MB of memory with the previous KDE.
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Re: KDE 2.2beta1: Ready to Roll
by Mattias on Sunday 08/Jul/2001, @07:45
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What's the reason for all "unstable" versions of KDE having only the right kicker hide button and the stable releases having both or none by option? I think it could be nice to be able to choose between left, right, both or none (replace left/right with top/bottom for vertical panels) in the stable releases. Admittedly, it's not the most necessary feature, though.
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Addressbook mix
by Ineluki on Monday 09/Jul/2001, @15:51
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I know this is OT, but: WTF is going to be the default addressbook interface for KDE, kab or kaddressbook?
Yes I know they both use the same database, but they definitely don't use it in a compatible way! Everything is fine with EMails and so on, but as soon as you want to enter addresses, both programs store it differently in the database.
You can't use addresses entered with kab in kaddressbook and the other way round. Or it works, but the fields get mixed up.
This definitely has to be changed before KDE 2.2 is out, Im pretty angry after I entered my whole contacts with 2.2a2 and had to see that the addresses where gone when using 2.2b1's kab.
Why two similar programs with slightly different functionality and incompatible ways of handling the database?
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