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Re: Konqueror Gets Activ(eX)ated
by Troy Unrau on Tuesday 10/Jul/2001, @03:59
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Errmmm... just to point something out... KParts and ActiveX are two totally different animals. In fact, I'd wager that the the ActiveX implementation in kde is a Kpart. A Kpart is many times more powerful than activex and is used for embedding apps one within another regardless of what apps are being embedded where.
ActiveX (afaik) is used principly for embedding web content plugins in MSIE. Think of kde's implementation as a wrapper for activex controls to be used as kparts within konq.
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Re: Konqueror Gets Activ(eX)ated
by Neil Stevens on Tuesday 10/Jul/2001, @04:40
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Then, instead of swooning over ActiveX plugins being available, why not just write KParts for the desired functionality?
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Re: Konqueror Gets Activ(eX)ated
by ik on Tuesday 10/Jul/2001, @05:59
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no. YOU do it.
good luck trying to implement opensource sorenson codecs, shockwave player, windows media player compatible stuff ....
now you ask those people who develop'd reaktivate to do just the same in 3 years more time (no, more) with legal risks because just ... you got 'insulted' by activex, not even because its bad.
Reaktivate is there for compatibility reasons. It makes technology available to more people (not to all people because it ain't possible - but konqueror is not there for blind users either)
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Re: Konqueror Gets Activ(eX)ated
by anonymous on Tuesday 10/Jul/2001, @06:33
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That's just what they did. The wrote a kpart component which allows graphical embedding of COM components. The fact that the backend is actually implemented using wine is an implementation detail. An important one, though, of course, as it's the only possible way to get stuff like shockwave running. But still for KDE it just means that there is a component available to which you can pass a URL to a shockwave file and it does the job.
How performant and stable the whole thing is in the reality to the end-user still needs to be seen. But technically it's a very exciting thing and fun to implement/hack . (and fun is what counts when it comes to motivation in free software development) As it works, why not tell people about it? After all it's something completely new on linux (it's not that they just plugged in wine and it worked, they had to implement quite some stuff in wine itself and implement a good chunk of interfaces) .
The fact that it runs only in x86 is a pity, but it's not their fault. Instead it's a design limitation of the underlying technology that simply can't be resolved. And given the fact that x86 is a popular KDE platform it's just a good reason to tell other KDE developers about this project.
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Re: Konqueror Gets Activ(eX)ated
by bg on Tuesday 10/Jul/2001, @11:34
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man you're so dumb
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Re: Konqueror Gets Activ(eX)ated
by Timothy R. Butler on Wednesday 11/Jul/2001, @01:23
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Maybe because the KDE developers don't have the time to rewrite Shockwave and Quicktime for KPart? Maybe because they can't afford the laywers when Apple comes down in one big swoop and sues the pants off of them for making anything even somewhat resembling the other "QT" without King Steven Jobs XIII for permission?
-Tim
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