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Re: Konqueror Gets Activ(eX)ated
by Neil Stevens on Tuesday 10/Jul/2001, @07:02

My problem isn't with your code. You wrote what you wanted, and shared it with the world. That's a fine thing.

My problem is that Dre is describing the lack of support for propreitary plugins for Windows as a major lack of Konqueror until now, in contrast with the KDE community's general pleasure with Konqueror until now.

Am I taking this seriously? You'd better believe it. By putting this site in the kde.org, domain, dot.kde.org represents KDE. I've put a lot of time in to KDE, and I care about it. I don't want it led astray.

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Re: Konqueror Gets Activ(eX)ated
by Aaron J. Seigo on Tuesday 10/Jul/2001, @07:42

well, for a _lot_ of folks not having ActiveX controls is a big thing. this wasn't a Konqueror weakness, it was a Linux/Unix weakness. what they have done is build as good a bridge as is possible today (which means x86 only right now) for technologies that were, until now, bound to Windows. without this bridge, many users would also remain bound to Windows. this is all about making lemon-aide out of lemons for the short term and opening the way for more people to enjoy the Freedom of KDE. it is one piece among many of Konqi's abilities and compatibilities that no other linux/unix web browser can measure up to.

and that, if you calmly re-read the press release, is exactly what was said.

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Re: Konqueror Gets Activ(eX)ated
by Guillaume Laurent on Tuesday 10/Jul/2001, @11:29

> I've put a lot of time in to KDE, and I care about it.

Then I suggest you take a vacation or something and return when the whole of your brain is back up, because right now you're not helping at all, to say the least.

Your take on this is nothing less than appalling.

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Re: Konqueror Gets Activ(eX)ated
by Timothy R. Butler on Wednesday 11/Jul/2001, @01:39

Neil - tell me, if Konqi didn't support any Netscape plugins, only displayed pages that were W3C compliant to the letter, and wouldn't open pages served from non-open source web servers, would you use it?
The point with ActiveX isn't saying that KDE's native technologies aren't better, it's simply admitting the reality that KDE's technologies aren't being embraced by major companies yet, and for users to migrate to Linux, they need these technologies now.
I might note that many programs that have major lacks are still enjoyed. I really like KMail, Kicker, XMMS, Konqueror, KNewsTicker, etc. but still there are thing I would love to see supported that aren't _yet_. That doesn't mean I am not pleased with them, I simply notice they lack certain things I would like. I might note Konqueror has JavaScript problems too, but if Dre announced that they had all been fixed, that wouldn't mean that the KDE Project was really saying "Until now, Konqi really stinked like week old fish!"

-Tim

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Re: Konqueror Gets Activ(eX)ated
by AB on Thursday 12/Jul/2001, @11:16

It's always like this. If any product is "criticized" by its own makers, you can bet there is a newer version of that product which solves those problems.

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