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The Problem with KDE distribuition !
by Asif Ali Rizwaan on Thursday 12/Jul/2001, @17:17
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You know, KDE people keeps us stuck to older versions of KDE by their kind actios ;)
1. Not giving out upgrades like windows' IE upgrades for Konq and other imp. tools/app.
2. There must be KDE-Installer to install KDE upgrades and applications for a distribution-free binary upgrades.
I know you would say that KDE works on Unices and not just linux but if you look at Netscape, Adobe Acrobat, Word Perfect, StarOffice and other commercial apps, they just work fine on Unices including Linux-es. Here we are just forced to get Mandrake RPMS!!! Oh for God Sake get us Distribution free KDE upgrades. |
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Re: The Problem with KDE distribuition !
by Roberto Alsina on Thursday 12/Jul/2001, @18:56
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You pay for the huge amount of time it takes to create such binaries, and then YOU use them: they are slower.
You are using a distribution. A distributionīs main job is to get you the software we produce nicely packaged and optimized for you in a convenient and speedy fashion.
If your distribution is not doing that for you: change distribution to one that does. I repeat: THAT IS THE DISTRIBUTIONīS JOB. The unspoken social contract between distros and developers includes a tiny clause saying "you distro guys take care of making the packages for your distros once many users use the things we write".
But the KDE project is not going to waste time making universal binaries: days have only 28 hours!
On the other hand: sure, netscape produces binaries that work on all distros... except they donīt, they crash in some because of incompatible libraries. And even they only produce such beasts about twice a year. KDE produces way more frecuent releases.
Wordperfect costs a few hundred bucks: pay me what WP costs, and I will hand-compile all of KDE and a bunch of other apps to be perfectly optimized for your computer ;-)
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Re: The Problem with KDE distribuition !
by Alain on Thursday 12/Jul/2001, @19:44
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YES!
This is needed - like the Ximian setup tools for Gnome, KDE needs some standard configuration tools. I think it's a bit stupid that every distribution makes their own tools.
It would be much easier for the users if the same configurations tools were available no matter what distribution you use or if you change to another distribution.
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It is said here :
http://dot.kde.org/989997858/990014513/
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Re: The Problem with KDE distribuition !
by Roberto Alsina on Thursday 12/Jul/2001, @19:48
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Blah.
Configuration tools should not be desktop-specific.
Further, configuration tools should not require a graphical environment. What can a config tool need that can not be done in a slang app?
I canīt think of anything, and I would much prefer such tool to work over ssh from a windows box without a X server, really.
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Re: The Problem with KDE distribuition !
by Rob on Friday 13/Jul/2001, @23:30
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look at sysconfig module in kde cvs.
It is a kde front end to ximian
setup tools.
These setup tools look like they
might end up pretty universal -
eg kde, gnome, web and terminal
interface to them are easily possible.
Also they sould be presented as
a corba object or a web service with soap.
(making sure of security, of course).
Rob
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