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Posted by Dre on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @09:59
from the oh-my-gosh dept.
The weekly Apps Roundup column has turned out to be not-so-weekly this far, but in the second installment I go much further in-depth and take a closer look at Bibletime, a scripture-study program for those of the Judaeo-Christian faiths. Because I went crazy with the screenshots, the review is available here. Enjoy!

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What about the other apps?
by Eric on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @11:27

I see that there has been LOTS of apps released since the last app roundup. I know there is a new beta of Aethera, and a few other Kompany apps. Its good that you focus on an app, but don't forget to "roundup" at least a couple other apps that have been released.

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Re: What about the other apps? by someone on Tuesday 17/Jul/2001, @06:41

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0
by Rakko on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @12:19

Just a quibble: Usually Judaism and Christianity aren't considered a single "faith."

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Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Eric Laffoon on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @15:51

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Rakko on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @16:26

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Zach Hartley on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @20:17

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0
by Per Wigren on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @12:19

Please don't include this one in the distribution!

If v2.0 will include support for at least 10 different religions, ok, go for it, otherwise don't!

// Per Wigren, agnostic

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Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Andreas Pietzowski on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @12:27

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Andreas Pietzowski on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @12:28

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Andreas Pietzowski on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @12:33

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by not me on Tuesday 17/Jul/2001, @01:49

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Felix Rodriguez on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @12:29

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Per Wigren on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @12:54

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by David G. Watson on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @13:04

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Per Wigren on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @13:19
Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Shrek on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @14:35

The Dot is messed up! by Shrek on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @14:38
Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Timothy R. Butler on Tuesday 17/Jul/2001, @00:54
Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by craig on Tuesday 17/Jul/2001, @02:20

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Shrek on Tuesday 17/Jul/2001, @08:22

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Craig on Tuesday 17/Jul/2001, @13:08

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Shrek on Tuesday 17/Jul/2001, @13:53

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Chris Bordeman on Tuesday 17/Jul/2001, @16:47

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Shrek on Wednesday 18/Jul/2001, @04:19

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Per Wigren on Wednesday 18/Jul/2001, @19:40

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Rick Kreikebaum on Saturday 21/Jul/2001, @22:00

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Felix Rodriguez on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @13:13

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Per Wigren on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @13:27

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Felix Rodriguez on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @13:35

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by craig on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @15:48

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Carbon on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @21:49

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by craig on Tuesday 17/Jul/2001, @01:04

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by [Bad-Knees] aka [Wounded-Knee] on Tuesday 17/Jul/2001, @14:30

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by David G. Watson on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @12:57

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Felix Rodriguez on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @12:29

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Anonymous Troll on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @12:38

Need more K's! by Otter on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @16:32

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by wSaintx on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @12:30

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Per Wigren on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @13:00

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by craig on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @16:07
Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Chris Little on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @17:43

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by craig on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @16:04

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Eduardo Sanchez on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @16:45

I am against putting this into KDE as well by Moritz Moeller-Herrmann on Tuesday 17/Jul/2001, @05:56

Re: I am against putting this into KDE as well by Chris Bordeman on Tuesday 17/Jul/2001, @17:01

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Scott on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @18:14

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Evan "JabberWokky" E. on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @13:33

To be continued, soon the TopfferTime... by Alain on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @14:11

Re: To be continued, soon the TopfferTime... by Evan "JabberWokky" E. on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @14:29
Re: To be continued, soon the TopfferTime... by Hmmm on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @14:43

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by craig on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @15:53

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by craig on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @15:47
Cool it by Navindra Umanee on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @16:06

Re: Cool it by Per Wigren on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @16:19

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Eric Laffoon on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @16:52

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by craig on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @17:16

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Me on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @18:37
Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Simon Kenyon on Tuesday 17/Jul/2001, @08:05

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Chris Little on Tuesday 17/Jul/2001, @08:44

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by KDE User on Tuesday 17/Jul/2001, @08:49

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Simon Kenyon on Tuesday 17/Jul/2001, @09:49

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Bernd Gehrmann on Tuesday 17/Jul/2001, @11:24

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Simon Kenyon on Tuesday 17/Jul/2001, @12:31

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Mirko Kloppstech on Wednesday 18/Jul/2001, @21:36

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0
by John on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @14:25

I'm a Buddhist (I'm serious). Could I extract the Christian contents and replace them with extracts from the Sutras? Would that be easy to do?

John

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Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Chris Little on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @19:49

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0
by Scott on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @18:31

I must say that I was also surprised when I noticed that despite all of this discussion there's really only been one person to object to Bibletime (Well two, but the other was on grounds of it bloating things.).

Touchy issue, eh?

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Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Per Wigren on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @18:38

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0
by BibleTime developer on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @18:39

Our aim was never to get included in the standard KDE.
But we have nothing against it if BibleTime gets included in Debian or other Linux distibutions.

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Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Per Wigren on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @20:01

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0
by Underground on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @19:20

I like the screenshots I hoop the next apps roundup have more schreenshots

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Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Observer on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @20:32

Compile error
by Per Wigren on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @21:34

Ok, so I decided to stop pissing everyone off and actually try the program.

It fails to compile though. I use SuSE 7.1RC-Axp (Alpha - the processor:) and KDE 2.2alpha2.

++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../.. -I/opt/kde2/include -I/usr/lib/qt2/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/src/tmp/sword/include -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -O2 -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -Wall -pedantic -W -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes -Wwrite-strings -Wno-long-long -fno-builtin -c cswordmoduleinfo.cpp
cswordmoduleinfo.cpp: In method `CSwordModuleInfo::CSwordModuleInfo
(CSwordBackend *, SWModule *)':
cswordmoduleinfo.cpp:49: no matching function for call to
`CSwordBackend::Version ()'
cswordmoduleinfo.cpp:50: no matching function for call to
`CSwordBackend::Version ()'
cswordmoduleinfo.cpp: In method `const QString
CSwordModuleInfo::getAboutInformation () const':
cswordmoduleinfo.cpp:132: warning: ISO C++ forbids variable-size array
`dummy'
/usr/src/tmp/sword/include/swfilter.h: In method `void
SWFilter::setOptionValue (const char *)':
/usr/src/tmp/sword/include/swfilter.h:79: warning: unused parameter `const char *ival'
/usr/src/tmp/sword/include/swfilter.h: In method `char
SWFilter::ProcessText (char *, int, const SWKey *)':
/usr/src/tmp/sword/include/swfilter.h:92: warning: unused parameter `const SWKey *key'
make[4]: *** [cswordmoduleinfo.o] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/tmp/bibletime-1.0.1/bibletime/backend/sword_backend'
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/tmp/bibletime-1.0.1/bibletime/backend'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/tmp/bibletime-1.0.1/bibletime'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/tmp/bibletime-1.0.1'
make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
arkanoid:/usr/src/tmp/bibletime-1.0.1 #

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Re: Compile error by BibleTime developer on Tuesday 17/Jul/2001, @07:49

Re: Compile error by Per Wigren on Tuesday 17/Jul/2001, @07:53

Re: Compile error by BibleTime developer on Tuesday 17/Jul/2001, @09:00

Inclusion of apps in KDE
by Waldo Bastian on Monday 16/Jul/2001, @22:41

Not that this is an issue, but after reading the above discussion I thought it might be usefull information.

For an application to be part of KDE the following criteria must be met:

* The application must be primarily developed in KDE CVS.
* The application must be actively maintained.
* The application must have an appropriate license
(See http://developer.kde.org/documentation/licensing/policy.html)

Not realy a criteria but more or less following from common sense, distribution of an application should not carry an unreasonable legal risk and, just as we expect everyone involved in KDE to respect others, an application should do that as well.

Cheers,
Waldo

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Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0
by Scribe on Tuesday 17/Jul/2001, @00:53

This app rocks!!! The professionalism rivals that of commercially available apps on _other_ OSs. Great job guys.

PS. It would be a shame to not see this app available in distros because some people would choose not to install it. I choose not to install MOST things included in the distros I use!

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Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Timothy R. Butler on Tuesday 17/Jul/2001, @01:24

Why...
by Timothy R. Butler on Tuesday 17/Jul/2001, @01:21

does the fact that this is a Judaeo-Christian application automatically mean that it is necessary to argue against it's inclusion in KDE - even though no one mentioned including it?

Personally I think Bibletime is a marvelleous work, and would be nice in KDE just to demonstrate the versatility of KDE.

-Tim

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Re: Why... by craig on Tuesday 17/Jul/2001, @03:11

Re: Why... by Per Wigren on Tuesday 17/Jul/2001, @06:37
Re: Why... by Timothy R. Butler on Tuesday 17/Jul/2001, @17:21

Re: Why... by Christian Rahn on Tuesday 17/Jul/2001, @10:03

You are pushing it
by Jesus H Christ on Tuesday 17/Jul/2001, @02:11

Jesus H Christ. If you plagerize my bible writing one more time, I will call the RIAA upon you.

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Re: You are pushing it by B. Wagner on Tuesday 17/Jul/2001, @02:40

Re: You are pushing it by Jesus H Christ on Tuesday 17/Jul/2001, @04:45

Sword
by bela on Tuesday 17/Jul/2001, @05:51

Interesting naming of the lib though. *SWORD*. But only appropriate, after all.

CU

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Re: Sword by Eduardo Sanchez on Tuesday 17/Jul/2001, @07:29

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0
by Per Wigren on Tuesday 17/Jul/2001, @09:14

Ok. This is my LAST posting in this forum!

Check out this site: http://www.religioustolerance.org , read the essays and we can stop fighting!
And BibleTime webmaster, please include it in the links-section! It's a really great site, the best I've found! It has objective "reviews" of every religion and cult one can think of! They compare opinions and "rules" without saying that one is right or wrong. I read a lot of the essays there the last year to be able to debate with my girlfriend if she would try to preach for me... :)

Now, if you want to continue the "debate", do so by mail.

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Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0
by [Bad-Knees] aka [Wounded-Knee] on Tuesday 17/Jul/2001, @14:18

(Im from the Faroe Island - so there might be some spelling errors - my C is better than my english)

Im am a christian who belives that jesus christ is the son of God - and i think its great to have application to help me in my studies - and including it in the distro is to me a good thing. Nobody has to install it, i will, and have - just an older version (a bit buggy - but usable). Excluding it from the distro grounded on the purpos of the program, which is bible study (which should be to any non-christian a book-study as any other), is a restriction. And why are people offended by a bible-study program??
If you dont like it, dont install it. If you are a buddist - than hack it to be buddatime:).
Think of it as freedom to install it or not.

...when the son sets you free, you are truely free.

Thank you!

[Bad-Knees]

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Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Billy Nopants on Wednesday 18/Jul/2001, @13:53

Re: Apps Roundup #2: Focus on Bibletime 1.0 by Per Wigren on Wednesday 18/Jul/2001, @19:33

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