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I thought you actually sounded like a troll.
by Gilded Rooster on Tuesday 17/Jul/2001, @20:45

I thought you actually sounded like a troll. You need to take a look at your installation. Even if you're a "developer" you likely have not done it correctly. Please understand that the aim of the KDE project not to produce the same thing as twm. KDE is a sophisticated environment. KDE developers try to create the best environment on any platform, and this means there will be some extra space. Unlike Microsoft, etc. KDE developers are true innovators and are working with the GCC creators to improve the speed of the program. They are using realistic requirements to create good systems.

Please respect KDE developers for their efforts.

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Re: I thought you actually sounded like a troll.
by Marc Spisländer on Wednesday 18/Jul/2001, @09:28

You say KDE developers are real innovators. I use KDE and I am quite pleased with it. But I wonder which innovations you mean! Is there any cool feature (and usefull, too) that MS had not first?
I realised this when I did the change from Windows to KDE. My girl friend, who is far away to be a computer specialist, didn't even remarked, that she was working with KDE and not with Windows.
Maybe there are innovations from the developer's point of view. But the users must look very carefully to see the real differences between Win and KDE. Of course there are thinks working better in KDE, but I wouldn't call them innovations!

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Re: I thought you actually sounded like a troll.
by David G. Watson on Wednesday 18/Jul/2001, @12:10

Here are some innovations that I haven't seen in Windows (maybe they're in ME or 2K, but I haven't had any desire to try them out):

The audiocd:/ ioslave - copy mp3 files directly from an audio CD, without the need for an intermediate program (it's done automagically for you).

Internet Keyword Search: put 'gg:foobar' into the konqy location bar, and take a look what it does :). Same works for more other search engines, plus dictionary, etc. It's also configuratble.

KParts: real embedding of whole applications, which "take over" the window when you want to edit the embedded data.

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Re: I thought you actually sounded like a troll.
by Marc Spisländer on Wednesday 18/Jul/2001, @20:55

OK, the audiocd:/ is an improvement. The next Windows generation will support this and burning CD as well, as far as I know.
The "gg:xxx" is not bad but, in my eyes, not a breakthrough. If you want to start sofisticated searches you have to go directly to the Google site as well. Of course you could set parameters into the gg-Statement, but then we have a fundamental problem: we must decide: command line or GUI. And KDE-user prefer the GUI, I guess.
KParts: This does Windows as well. They call it OLE or something like this.
A really innovation for me is the possibility to access FTP within the open dialog of any application.

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Re: I thought you actually sounded like a troll.
by Tackat on Wednesday 18/Jul/2001, @12:19

Text-Previews using mimetype-icon-"watermarks" to display filetype + content. Damn I should have patented that idea ;^) !

Greetings,
Tackat

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Re: I thought you actually sounded like a troll.
by Marc Spisländer on Wednesday 18/Jul/2001, @21:09

Is this really an innovation? And Windows does this as well (I'm not sure, I use Windows very seldom.).
I admit, it is a nice feature. Specially for me, for whom the optic is very important. If a program looks ugly, it will be a problem for me to use it.
By the way: on my system if I change the content of a text file the text preview doesn't update.
My opinion is: KDE is not more or less full of innovations than Windows. I could mention as many innovations in Windos as you probably could for KDE:
* menu items that disappear if they aren't used often
* the web view for directories which tells you how many free space you have (helpfull for beginners)
* auto completion in IE

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