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Re: Good news...
by Jo Řiongen on Tuesday 14/Aug/2001, @11:57
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Because there are always one, ONE, in every organisation that can/will not comlpy to admins and business rules. It's sad but it's a fact that not all peopel can be trusted with the power of a modern desktop
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Re: Good news...
by ik on Tuesday 14/Aug/2001, @13:03
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an old one: computers are made for people, not the other way around :)
so if we make software we have to take into account it will be used by people.
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Re: Good news...
by Soulseeker on Tuesday 14/Aug/2001, @13:32
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Some people are happy being dead computer mutants.....it keeps people like us employed. :P
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Re: Good news...
by Larry Voyles on Tuesday 14/Aug/2001, @14:05
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Most likely the targeted users of such a system wouldn't necessarily be employees, but customers or the general public.
If I want to deploy a set in the lobby of an office building to act as a building directory, I sure don't want random people opening up xterm on it. Plus, deploying an old 486 in the lobby loaded up with Linux is much more financially attractive than paying for a touch-screen system and the uber-expensive contractor to program it.
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Re: Good news...
by Dev Null on Tuesday 14/Aug/2001, @15:21
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This is nothing like Windows. Windows has zero security - you can tamper with anything on Windows. This should run the KDE session as non root and since shell and file system access is protected can be secure. The fact that you can avoid typing passwords into a kiosk machine which may be physically insecure to get access to services that don't need a password actually improves security over a standard system with a user login. How do you use a standard system login in a kiosk application where none of the users will have accounts? Log in to your own account and leave members of the public to tamper with it? Now that is Windows (NT) style usage (no security is Windows 98 style usage).
Think of this as a really souped up graphical version of your typical boot-up menuing system, where your menuing system is the KDE desktop.
This is going to be really useful for things like POS stations, public information display systems, public appliance machines to do things like scanning, faxing, printing etc. The challenge will be preventing the applications from bypassing security. However it should be possible to adapt any open source application to be secure, and since you are only going to install a few specific applications, this should not be too difficult.
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Re: Good news...
by Ra on Monday 15/Dec/2003, @04:41
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I need a graphically attractive window manager, simple to use yet secure on linux boxes to develop for an internet café.
I'm writing a daemon in Perl in the meanwhile to control external hardware that grant timed access to the box.
I guess this is good stuff.
on the trusting matter.. how can you trust users that are trying to get surfing time for free?
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Re: Good news...
by Josh Goldenhar on Wednesday 15/Aug/2001, @13:11
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I for one would like to start seeing things like airport kiosks, Per/hour Net Access terminals, Information kiosks, etc. running linux. This allows for this functionality and could potentially expose KDE to the masses.
Instead of telling people to GROW UP, you can think of this as KDE growing up and becoming a viable commercial alternative to Windows.
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Re: Good news...
by gary meyer on Wednesday 15/Aug/2001, @17:36
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the denver, colorado, usa airport has been using linux-based kiosk terminals for more than a year
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Re: Good news...
by Gerry Kavanagh on Wednesday 30/Apr/2003, @03:59
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YES!! I am working for a startup kiosk supplier, and as the head tech person, will have the final call on what to base our operations on. Initially it was Win2K, but the security issues, quality of software, expense etc. is a major put-off. Now I will have the opportunity to convert our existing and ongoing operations to linux. I've been using (playing with) linux since about '98, and have never been in the position where my employer trusted open source enough to use for commercial applications, until now.
The research is currently ongoing, and I expect to be in a position to offload all MS based software in favour of the penguin within 2 months.
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