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Re: netscape/mozilla plugin support in Konq
by Aaron J. Seigo on Saturday 25/Aug/2001, @12:04
many of the plugins you mention are not available for linux or other Unixes. why? because the companies that make them don't care. for (a very frustrating) example: apple really doesn't care about supporting free operating systems with their quicktime technology even though their new OS is built on the foundation of free operating systems. people have even offered to do the implementation, sign NDAs, etc... still no go. FEH.

for things like flash that are to be found for Linux, you need to have lesstif installed (a free motif replacement) for the netscape plugin system to work in konqi.
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Re: netscape/mozilla plugin support in Konq
by bruno majewski on Saturday 25/Aug/2001, @21:36
I do have lesstif installed (well, "lesstif1" from Debian Sid (the unstable one)) and, despite that, anything smelling like flash does not work. www.real.com still wants me to install flash each time I hit it, pops up a multitude of windows and is very annoying.

I wonder what causes the disconnect, here. Could it be more a Debian Sid bug than a KDE bug, maybe?

I guess I'll give Debian Woody (V3) when it comes out officially, maybe something got hosed when I went from Potato to Woody and now to Sid...
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  • Re: netscape/mozilla plugin support in Konq
    by Jon on Sunday 26/Aug/2001, @00:26
    There are two types of 'Flash'. One has a Linux Netscape plugin, one doesn't... so you won't be able to view the crap animation until Macromedia get their act together.
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  • Re: netscape/mozilla plugin support in Konq
    by Evandro on Sunday 26/Aug/2001, @10:00
    But do you have the netscape package that includes the flash plugin installed? Have you configured Konqueror to search for Netscape plugins?
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    • Re: netscape/mozilla plugin support in Konq
      by bruno majewski on Sunday 26/Aug/2001, @14:09
      If I look in Konq's settings, I can see there is already a list of directories for NS plugins, which looks "active" to me -- i.e., Konq will look into them. Proof in point: RA will work now with RA links from music webstores.

      But not Flash (not to repeat myself but just to emphasize the point...).

      I don't have any Debian NetScape package, I have Sid's Mozilla 0.93+ ... Should I install the NS package just to have plugins, not to use the browser?

      Well, why not, I'll give it a try, I have nothing to lose.

      p.s.: out of curiosity, anyone have problems defining a network (lpd) printer in KDE? The control centre segfaults on me every time after I enter the IP address and the queue name... Ideas?
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      • Re: netscape/mozilla plugin support in Konq
        by bruno majewski on Sunday 26/Aug/2001, @16:03
        I've just apt-get install'ed netscape (4.77, comes only from Debian Woody, not Sid ?!), copied the 2 files for Flash into the plugin directory, launched Konq, checked to see if the Flash plugin was scanned/installed (yes), hit www.real.com...

        and got quite a few windows saying please download flash player, yada yada yada... (only once should suffice, why 3, 4 times?). Then hit www.macromedia.com and got more or less the same result (except many more windows).

        I don't get it. It should work, but it doesn't. Like defining a "remote" lpd printer under kde 2.2. Now I'm starting to wonder if I did not hose something with my Debian instance.

        Anyone has any suggestion about this? Thanks.
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        • Re: netscape/mozilla plugin support in Konq
          by Evandro on Sunday 26/Aug/2001, @18:51
          You don't need to copy the plug-ins anywhere.

          The Netscape package will install the two files needed to the netscape dir in /usr/lib. I'm not sure what's the location in the Debian packages, but it's something like /usr/lib/netscape/plugin. Make sure what the directory is and that it's in the list of scanned netscape plugins directories.

          After that's done run the nspluginscan command.
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          • Re: netscape/mozilla plugin support in Konq
            by Markus Naeher on Saturday 01/Mar/2003, @18:50
            I did exactly these steps, but on my Debian 3.0 it also dows not work.
            I have the same result as Bruno Majewski: Konq opens 3 - 4 windows with macromedia's download page as URL.
            I checked Konq's "Netscape Plugins" over and over again.
            After scanning, the list of found plugins does contain libflashplayer.so
            So what can be wrong ?
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  • Re: netscape/mozilla plugin support in Konq
    by renoX on Sunday 26/Aug/2001, @11:35
    estudio works normaly for me.

    real.com works also but you have to change your browser identification.

    I agree that the installation of plugins is poorly documented though.. I had quite a hard time making it work "correctly".

    The real player is a POS though: its memory usage keeps growing and growing until it dies.. :-(
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