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  KOffice 1.1 Rolls Out
KDE Official News Posted by Dre on Tuesday 28/Aug/2001, @19:12
from the home-sweet-home dept.
After a series of three betas and one release candidate, the KDE Project used the occasion of the first day of the Linux World Expo in San Francisco, CA to announce (alternate with fixed table) the much-anticipated stable release of KOffice 1.1. KOffice is a free, Open Source, integrated office suite demonstrating the richness and power of the KDE development environment. The announcement contains links to the source and binary packages as well as a good deal of information about the current features of the KOffice packages. A candid assessment by yours truly follows.

Like all of KDE, the interface of each KOffice application is really slick and gorgeous. The available functions are easy to use. The KOffice developers have again demonstrated their canny ability to make the transition from other office suites as easily as possible, but making improvements and innovating where appropriate.

The feature set is probably adequate for the great majority of users (and the price tag can't be beat!). For example, KPresentation is great and has many useful and snazzy features, but lacks layers and the ability to easily reproduce layers across selected pages. KWord is easily up to the task of generating nice letters, letterheads, memos, faxes and papers, but lacks hyphenation, mail merge (or any database integration) and endnotes/footnotes. Similar stories for the other applications.

But, with all due respect to the diligent work of the filter developers, the biggest obstacle to KOffice right now is the filters for MS Office documents. So while I will make KOffice my primary office suite, someone who (1) has a repository of .doc files; and/or (2) receives many .doc files by email; and/or (3) needs to collaborate on document production with someone tied to non-KOffice formats, and/or (4) has unusually demanding office needs, will likely not be happy with KOffice as their exclusive Office Suite (yet -- things are improving quickly!). I hope all the Open Source office developers (Abiword/etc., KOffice, Open Office) can collaborate on writing filters for the extremely complex and poorly-documented proprietary formats into an intermediate, standard-based XML format).



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good work!
by hackorama on Tuesday 28/Aug/2001, @20:20
Congratulations to KOfficers !

Since KOffice is now stable, the next priority should be to get filters working. For real world usage you really need .doc support.
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Nice
by Justin on Tuesday 28/Aug/2001, @20:34
I am just now compiling/installing KDE 2.2, so maybe I'll grab this while I'm at it :)

OT: has anyone had any trouble using objprelink with KDE2.2 final? The patch worked fine for kdelibs, but when I patch kdebase it causes autoconf to hang on an infinite recursion when I run 'make'. Maybe it's just my version of autoconf. I'm running Slackware 8.0. I would really like to get this to work!
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REDHAT RPM
by vk on Tuesday 28/Aug/2001, @21:23
why the announcement is so late? Its rpm became available many days ago an rpmfind.net.
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Word view
by Johan on Wednesday 29/Aug/2001, @00:01
Wouldn't it be possible to view word documents using Microsofts own viewer inside the new ActiveX compatible KDE browser?

I would be really glad if I could just view and print office document more or less the way they are supposed to look.

The ability copy text and pictures from this word-viewer would also be very handy, but if you want to make a wordprocessor that can load and save word documents without screwing them up I guess that this program has to be stupid in exactly the same way as Word is. And THAT should really not be the goal of the KOffice project.
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Well done people :-)
by Jono on Wednesday 29/Aug/2001, @01:26
I would like to say a congratulations to the KOffice team. They have toiled hard over a hot computer to bring this to the world, and it gets better and better. The future is bright. :-)
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FrontPage like tool and GNOME support needed.
by Rajan Rishyakaran on Wednesday 29/Aug/2001, @03:40
Well done guys. But you guys still need one more app, a FrontPage or Netscape Composer like tool. Sure, sure, I know HTML, but most of the world doesn't. Plus, kOffice should release a version with a GTK frontend for GNOME. After all, if kOffice wants more market share, it has to look to the competitior. Hey, Microsoft ports its own Office suite to competitor Apple.
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keep going!
by Wolfgang Kesseler on Wednesday 29/Aug/2001, @04:20
After reading the posts on this side, i feel it´s necessary to point out, that the work the KOffice developpers have done is greatly appreciated by the users!
The fact that some complain about missing filter functionality should not offend anyone who has contributed to this great work. Especially because the filters are at the moment much better than one could expect from the comments above (I´ve tried cvs-checkout a week (or so) ago and I could import word documents with german umlauts, tables etc. without any problems into kword).

Once again: Congratulation

Wolfgang
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What about krayon?
by kde user on Wednesday 29/Aug/2001, @05:40
It seems like krayon devel is going very slow, is this subproject still live?

When krayon could compete the another project's gimp?

Shame on krayon, this project is started 4 years ago and it's still:

> in the early stages of development but is
> already usable for experimenting with painting
> techniques and composing images using brushes
> and layers.

Also, ...! somebody knows something about already dead koffice subproject, kdatabase (or something like that (kdb, katabase)) that was planned to be ms access competitor in koffice?

Anyway some of other apps really rocks - kword, kspread, kpresenter, kontour. It's very hopefull release, as soon as you imlement more filters you will compete staroffice too :)

Also KDE2.2 is really the best DE!

Keep on good work!
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KDE print produces huge and buggy .ps files?
by Magnus Pym on Wednesday 29/Aug/2001, @07:24
Has anyone had a problem with KDE printing,
where the print produces HUGE .ps files that
are 3-10 times larger than similar files
produced by other apps? In particular, I have
in mind files produces by mozilla and konqueror.
Also, sometimes, .ps files produced by KDE
apps are unreadable by ghostscript, and many
printers (esp. HP) do not interpret them
correctly. Is this a known issue or am I
doing something wrong?

Magnus.
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Thank you!
by Johnzo on Wednesday 29/Aug/2001, @08:29
Thank you KOffice people, for all your hard work.

With AbiWord, KDE, and KOffice all releasing new versions recently, it's been like Christmas on my Linux box. :)

zo.
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WYSIWYG printing?
by Billy on Wednesday 29/Aug/2001, @09:13
One question... Does Kword print in wysiwyg?
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Kivio Stencils
by David Johnson on Wednesday 29/Aug/2001, @10:55
Kivio supports plugin stencil sets. theKompany has many more available for 5 or 10 dollars. However it would be very nice if more free stencil sets were available by default.

One thing I am interested in as UML stencils. The "Basic UML" stencils at theKompany just don't cut it though. Dia is awesome for UML diagrams, and there's no reason why Kivio can't be either. Anyone interested in making some UML stencils?
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Praises and Wishlist
by eze on Wednesday 29/Aug/2001, @13:04
Great work Koffice team. Koffice is shaping up very nicely. The hard work that has gone into this project is very evident. And the best part is that it is only going to get better. I can't wait to see where this app goes. Speaking of which here is a WISHLIST for future versions:
1. underline mispelled words as they are typed
2. "New table" in the table menu
3. "Delete table" in the table menu
4. Make table UI more MS Word like
5. Text to table
6. Shading (as in borders and shading)
7. More styles

By more Word like I mean rather than selecting a cell, modifying the cell width/height which modifies the row/column hight you sould get that "resize" cursor when you mouse over a cell border and resize only those cells that are selected, or all if none are selected.

Again big ups. This is a great product from a great team of dedicated opern source developers. If I have time, I would like to add some of these items myself.
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Wondering
by Rob on Wednesday 29/Aug/2001, @13:10
As a newbie, I'm just wondering why the developers don't pour their development efforts into porting OpenOffice to KDE rather than duplicating all this work in KOffice. As a newbie, I will probably go with Gnome as it (I understand) will use OO as its main office suite? At present OO on windows works very well, has M$ Word, Excel, etc. importing that work well, and is WYSIWYG. Comments?
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Great!
by microhajk on Wednesday 29/Aug/2001, @16:23
Too bad KDE as a whole is ___DREADFULLY__ slow on a pentium 200 with 32 MB of RAM! Pray for OpenWatcom, everyone!
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Office Plugin
by Ian on Wednesday 29/Aug/2001, @17:59
Would it be possible to write a plug-in for MS Word that would allow it to read this proposed XML standard? Or does RTF already satisfy the needs of people wanting to take their documents from KOffice to Word?

The reason I have to use MS Word at home is because I use it at school; if a 30 second install at school allowed me to write the KOffice format in Word then I wouldn't have any interoperablity problems. Granted, for people who are recieveing .doc from other people this wouldn't be very useful, but it would for me.
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Kword won't start...
by Joni on Thursday 30/Aug/2001, @04:26
I'm not sure if this is an appropriate place, but anyways... I can't get Kword to start (even though other Koffice programs run just fine).

I tried to run it as root and also with another user account, and there was no problem. But with the user account I normally use, it doesn't work.

Clicking on the Kword icon or typing "kword" on a console make the taskbar show "kword is starting" animation thingy, but then.. nothing happens. Not even any error messages appear.

I was wondering if there are some lock-files that need to be removed or something.. Any ideas?
(I'm running RH 7.1, by the way.)
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Unable to install RPM on RH7.0
by Havard Bjastad on Sunday 09/Sep/2001, @09:19
I've just installed KDE2.2, and went on to install KOffice 1.1. However, I get the following dependency-problems:
$ rpm -Uvh koffice-1.1-2.i386.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
libcrypto.so.2 is needed by koffice-1.1-2
libexpat.so.0 is needed by koffice-1.1-2
libssl.so.2 is needed by koffice-1.1-2

To get around the expat problem, I just had to install expat-1.95, but the libraries from openssl seems trickier. It seems that they're called libssl.so.0.96 in the version I have, but if I try to install an RPM where they're named .so.2, I get an error because several packages are using them.

I seems that a lot of people have been able to install KDE2.2 and KOffice1.1 on RH7, could you please help me find the right packages?

Thanks,
HB.
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