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Re: *sigh*
by Dave Leimbach on Friday 31/Aug/2001, @05:21
Its an operating system kernel... nothing more.
The design happens to be monolithic which means all that crap you mentioned is in one place with not too much thought about the possibility of ever serparating it.

Try using linux without ls, cp, bash, and Xwindows sometime. I bet its not much of an Operating System then. GNU Linux is the linux kernel based OS using the GNU tools to complete the project.

The BSD's have in their CVS all the source to everything you need for a complete BSD OS. This is where linux is different. All you get from kernel.org is the kernel.
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Re: *sigh*
by Alain on Friday 31/Aug/2001, @14:32
> Try using linux without ls, cp, bash, and Xwindows sometime.

Bash is not the only shell on Linux, I may easily use sh or csh, they also have ls and cp... I don't remember if XWindows is a part of the GNU project, but it is neither GPL, neither LGPL. And if something is important above the Kernel, it is the desktop for a majority of users...
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  • Re: *sigh*
    by Spark on Sunday 02/Sep/2001, @12:47
    You didn't get the point.
    This is absolutely NOT about "what is most important so we should call it like that", it's just about the simple fact, that "Linux" is not a complete operating system and as long as there is not the "Linux OS", we need different names for it.
    "Debian, "Red Hat Linux", etc are names for such system. But if you take the very basic of it (like building a Linux from scratch), you will end up using the "almost finished" GNU system with the Linux kernel. It's your choice, how you want to call it.
    GNU/Linux is the most appropriate thing I heared yet. "Linux" is definetly not and it would be very stupid to find a new name for it, just because you don't like GNU.
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