JAN
11
2001

KDE 2.1 Release Schedule

David Faure, the KDE release coordinator, has posted the KDE 2.1 release schedule. The summary: KDE 2.1beta2 is scheduled for release on January 29, and KDE 2.1 is scheduled for release on February 12, 2001. Read the post below.

From: David Faure <david@mandrakesoft.com>
To: kde-core-devel@kde.org, kde-devel@kde.org, kde-i18n-doc@kde.org
Subject: Release schedule for KDE 2.1 beta 2 and KDE 2.1 final
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 13:00:15 +0000
Sender: kde-devel-admin@max.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de

Here is a proposal for the release schedule for the next two releases.

This schedule gives the 3 weeks of message freeze that the translators asked for,
and gives us a feature freeze of 3 weeks too - hopefully enough time to close
everything on http://bugs.kde.org :-))

An alternative schedule would be to add one week between the two releases,
i.e. delay 2.1 final by one week. I suggest that we don't plan to do that, but we
keep this option at hand in case beta 2 turns out to have too many bugs.

Comments welcome.

KDE 2.1 Beta 2
=============
Friday 12/01/2001
The HEAD branch is frozen again : no new features, bugfixes
commits only, no commit that modifies an application's behaviour,
and **message freeze**.

Monday 22/01
The HEAD branch of CVS is tagged KDE_2_1_BETA2, and tarballs are made.
They are made public immediately, and given to packagers for creation
of binary packages.

Friday 26/01
The binary packages are uploaded to ftp.kde.org to give some time for the mirrors
to get them.

Monday 29/01
Announce KDE 2.1 Beta 2

KDE 2.1 final
=============
The HEAD branch remains frozen since Friday 12/01. Only bugfixing,
there is enough of that to do :)

Monday 05/02
Last day for translations, documentation, icons and critical bugfixes
commits.

Tuesday 06/02
The HEAD branch of CVS is tagged KDE_2_1_RELEASE, and tarballs are released
to the packagers.

The rest of the week is spent testing the tarballs, packaging and writing the
announcement and changelog.

Friday 09/02
The source and binary packages are uploaded to ftp.kde.org to give some time
for the mirrors to get them.

Monday 12/02
Announce KDE 2.1.

--
David FAURE, david@mandrakesoft.com, faure@kde.org
http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~david/, http://www.konqueror.org/
KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today

Comments

The NOATUN project includes some wishes. It's a jukebox for playing different sound formats (like mp3 and others), creating sound files from CD-ROM to a mp3 archive with looking on CDDB for titel information and burns audio tracks on CD-R. Perhaps is NOATUN included in KDE 2.1.


By Stephan Böni at Fri, 2001/01/12 - 6:00am

I don't think most of these things should be a part of KDE. They belong to the operating system. Remember that KDE is a *desktop*, not an operating environment. Throw all your Windows and Mac concepts in the trash. Keep the components separate.


By David Johnson at Fri, 2001/01/12 - 6:00am

dont need to copy windows ! LEARN !!! (fauler sack)


By ch at Fri, 2001/01/12 - 6:00am

> My point is "Why isn't KDE including the MOST FREQUENTLY REQUIRED applications and tools, and not creating which are missing ?"
Because KDE is a collective effort, made by benevols,not by people all working for the same company and payed to create particular application. People in the KDE communauty, as in any [Open Source|Free Software] communauty, work on what they found interesting, usefull, and in their skills.

GNOME, however, has a steering board which can, for what I have understand of it, can direct the effort of coders. KDE totally reject such a thing.

Remember that most people working on KDE apps are doing it for fun. If noone find a "XKonf" tool fun to do, noone will do it. And all you'll get will be a "If you need it, do it".


By GeZ at Fri, 2001/01/12 - 6:00am

I still will not use it until it has "Full Geometry Control" as is the case with KDE1.1.2.

Its sad to keep on about this but I feel until someone wakes up to that fact I can't get my customers to want to use it as it is!

(-geometry x y ) is quite basic; dont you all think!

Regards,
James


By James Alan Brown at Fri, 2001/01/12 - 6:00am

I completely agree with what you have said. In my eyes, BeOS is the most visually well thought out desktop I have come across. The GUI developers for KDE c(sh)ould take their pointers from other OS's as far as creating utilities instead of relying on copying windows, for a start. Then, completing the missing applications is essential. I have one rant about Linux in general to make here: BeOS installed on my system from inside Windows in under 10 minutes, my system rebooted and I was faced with a completely installed system, right down to my internal 56k modem; The QNX demo disk (OS on a stiffy) picked up my modem and I was able to surf the web!! Linux has NEVER been able to pick up my modem. That is shocking. Now that I have that out of my system ... :)

Cheers for now


By Kde-Needs-Work at Mon, 2001/01/15 - 6:00am

I love the 2.1 releases that I've been running from Woody, it's as dramatic an improvement as teh move from 1.0 to 1.1x. Polish, simply fantastic.

Having said all of that, I'd like to point out that the CSS remdering has become somewhat broken between 2.01 and 2.1.

I have a nicely formatted page at:

http://www.moses.cx/school/214/214_Project/

it renedered perfectly in both Konqueror 2.0 and 2.01 (as well as IE, Netscape 4.x, 6.x and mozilla) but hasn't worked in any of the kde2.1 builds.

Can anyone suggest what might be the cause of this??

Cheers,

Ben


By Ben Hall at Fri, 2001/01/12 - 6:00am

GO FURTHER!!!!!!!!!


By Manuel Román at Sat, 2001/01/13 - 6:00am

KDE shouldn't configure every aspect of the OS, its not KDE's job.

It is the job of the end user to configure the machine, tools ship with each and every Unix and Linux OS to configure it.

If you tried to let it configure each and every aspect of each unix os it compiles on it would become so bloated it would be unusable.

If you want a nice gui configuration for your os try windows, that is what it is for.


By Jason at Sat, 2001/01/13 - 6:00am

Why should KDE not configure every aspect?

I would have thought that the more that KDE2 can do the better and in turn more fed up Windows95/98/2000/NT users would want to use Linux!

It still seems to me that at the moment with KDE2: it is a little more important to copy/try to out do Gnome rather than to create a real alternative Desktop for Linux With the great name of KDE.

KDE1.1.2 with full Geometry control and with some very tidy well working programs has already got very close to that.

I am hoping that the KDE team will sort out the Geometry flag and become the best desktop alternative. Your have a very long way to go to bloat KDE2 like Microsoft have done with Windows 2000!

Certainly no one with half a brain using Linux wants to go back over to Microsoft's expensive (no source code OS) and silly long folder names like "Microsofts Temporary Internet Folder Grooving in a Cave With a Pict" do they?

Regards James


By James Alan Brown at Sun, 2001/01/14 - 6:00am

The problem, as I see it, is distributions. You've got Mandrake, Red Hat, Debian, Slackware, Caldera, and so on and so forth. Each one of these distros is configured in a different, proprietary way, with configuration scripts and files scattered all over. To write one tool that could handle all the formats of all the configuration files of all the distributions out there, and still have it be small and easy to use, is flat-out impossible.

And then, what if someone makes a new distro? Or changes an old one? Imagine if every time Red Hat came out with a new version, KDE developers would have to scramble to update their configuration tool to handle all the changes. That just wouldn't work.

What I think needs to be done is there needs to be a KDE-centered distro that includes only KDE and a few other apps, and has configuration tools that integrate with KDE (inside the Control Center). Of course, I'm not going to be the one to start such a project, at least not until I get a LOT more programming experience. Well, we can always hope :-)


By not me at Sun, 2001/01/14 - 6:00am

Will there be multi-head support in the final 2.1?

Right now (beta1), the situation is far from satisfactory. There doesn't seem to be a way to configure KDE for multiple physical screens and the documentation doesn't mention anything either.


By Knut at Wed, 2001/01/17 - 6:00am

Hi ,
I need to configure Multiple monitors on a linux system.
System configuration is
cpu -p3
ram 256 MB
card1 S3 PCI
card2 S3 PCI
card3 cirrus pci
card4 nvidia agp
OS RedHat linux 8
Please kindly let me know how to go about with the configuration
Thanks
Sudhir


By Sudhir mahale at Tue, 2003/03/04 - 6:00am

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