FEB
27
2001

KDE 2.1 Has Landed At a Server Near You

KDE 2.1 is officially out! This is a solid release with major improvements to Konqueror and KMail, the addition of the excellent IDE KDevelop, as well as the modular new multimedia player noatun. It has a whole slew of improvements over 2.0; you can find the change log here. The full press release is attached. Enjoy -- I already installed it and it rules!

DATELINE FEBRUARY 26, 2001

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

New KDE Desktop Ready for the Enterprise

KDE Ships Leading Desktop with Advanced Web Browser for Linux
and Other UNIXes

February 26, 2001 (The INTERNET).
The KDE
Project
today announced the release of KDE 2.1,
a powerful and easy-to-use Internet-enabled desktop for Linux. KDE
features Konqueror, a
state-of-the-art web browser, as an integrated
component of its user-friendly desktop environment, as well as
KDevelop,
an advanced IDE, as a central component of KDE's powerful
development environment.
This release marks a leap forward in Linux desktop stability, usability
and maturity and is suitable for enterprise deployment.
The KDE Project strongly encourages all users to upgrade to KDE 2.1.

KDE and all its components are available for free under
Open Source licenses from the KDE
server
and its mirrors and can
also be obtained on CD-ROM.
KDE 2.1 is available in
33 languages and
ships with the core KDE
libraries, the core desktop environment (including Konqueror), developer
packages (including KDevelop), as well
as the over 100 applications from the other
standard base KDE packages (administration, games,
graphics, multimedia, network, PIM and utilities).

"This second major release of the KDE 2 series is a real improvement in
terms of stability, performance
and features," said David Faure, release manager for KDE 2.1 and
KDE Representative at
Mandrakesoft.
"KDE 2 has
now matured into a solid, intuitive and complete desktop for daily use.
Konqueror is a full-featured and robust web browser
and important applications like the mail client (KMail) have greatly
improved.
The multimedia architecture has made great strides and
this release inaugurates the new media player noatun,
which has a modular, plugin design for playing the latest audio and
video formats.
For development, KDE 2.1 for the first time is bundled
with KDevelop, an outstanding IDE/RAD which will be comfortably familiar to
developers with Windows development backgrounds.
In short, KDE 2.1
is a state-of-the-art desktop and development environment,
and positions Linux/Unix to make significant inroads in the home and
enterprise."

"KDE 2.1 opens the door to widespread adoption of the Linux desktop
and will help provide the success on the desktop that Linux already
enjoys in the server space," added Dirk Hohndel, CTO of
Suse AG.
"With its intuitive
interface, code maturity and excellent development tools and environment, I am
confident that enterprises and third party developers will realize
the enormous potential KDE offers and will migrate their workstations
and applications to Linux/KDE."

"KDE boasts an outstanding graphical design and robust functionality," said
Sheila Harnett, Senior Technical Staff Member for IBM's Linux Technology
Center.
"KDE 2.1 significantly raises the bar for Linux desktop
functionality, usability and quality in virtually every aspect of the
desktop."

KDE 2: The K Desktop Environment.
Konqueror
is KDE 2's next-generation web browser,
file manager and document viewer.
The standards-compliant
Konqueror has a component-based architecture which combines the features and
functionality of Internet Explorer/Netscape
Communicator and Windows Explorer.
Konqueror supports the full gamut of current Internet technologies,
including JavaScript, Java, XML, HTML 4.0, CSS-1 and -2
(Cascading Style Sheets), SSL (Secure Socket Layer for secure communications)
and Netscape Communicator plug-ins (for Flash, RealAudio, RealVideo
and similar technologies).

In addition, KDE offers seamless network transparency for accessing
or browsing files on Linux, NFS shares, MS Windows
SMB shares, HTTP pages, FTP directories, LDAP directories and audio CDs.
The modular,
plug-in nature of KDE's file architecture makes it simple to add additional
protocols (such as IPX, WebDAV or digital cameras) to KDE, which would
then automatically be available to all KDE applications.

KDE's configurability and customizability
touches every aspect of the desktop.
KDE offers a unique cascading
customization feature where customization settings are inherited through
different layers, from global to per-user, permitting enterprise-wide
and group-based configurations.
KDE's sophisticated theme support
starts with Qt's style engine, which permits developers and artists to
create their own widget designs.
KDE 2.1 ships with over 14 of these styles,
some of which emulate the look of various operating systems.
Additionally
KDE includes a new theme manager and does an excellent job of
importing themes from GTK and GNOME.
Moreover, KDE 2 fully
supports Unicode and KHTML is the only free HTML rendering engine on
Linux/X11 that features nascent support for BiDi scripts
such as Arabic and Hebrew.

KDE 2 features an advanced, network-transparent multimedia architecture
based on aRts, the Analog Realtime Synthesizer.
ARts is a full-featured sound system which
includes a number of effects and filters, a modular analog synthesizer
and a mixer.
The aRts sound server provides network transparent sound support for
both input and output using MCOP, a CORBA-like network design, enabling
applications running on remote computers to output sound and receive
input from the local workstation.
This architecture provides a much-needed complement
to the network transparency provided by X and for the first time permits
users to run their applications remotely with sound enabled.
Moreover, aRts enables multiple applications (local or remote) to
output sound and/or video concurrently.
Video support is available for MPEG versions
1, 2 and 4 (experimental), as well as the AVI and DivX formats.
Using the aRts component technology, it is very easy to develop
multimedia applications.

Besides the exceptional compliance with Internet and file-sharing standards
mentioned above, KDE 2 is a leader in
compliance with the available Linux desktop standards.
KWin, KDE's new
re-engineered window manager, complies to the new
Window Manager
Specification
.
Konqueror and KDE comply with the Desktop
Entry Standard
.
Konqueror uses the
XBEL
standard for its bookmarks.
KDE 2 largely complies with the
X Drag-and-Drop (XDND)
protocol
as well as with the
X11R6 session management protocol (XSMP).

KDE 2: The K Development Environment.
KDE 2.1 offers developers a sophisticated IDE as well as a rich set
of major technological improvements over the critically acclaimed
KDE 1 series.
Chief among the technologies are
the Desktop COmmunication Protocol (DCOP), the
I/O libraries (KIO), the component
object model (KParts)
, an XML-based GUI class, and
a standards-compliant HTML rendering engine (KHTML).

KDevelop is a leading Linux IDE
with numerous features for rapid application
development, including a GUI dialog builder, integrated debugging, project
management, documentation and translation facilities, built-in concurrent
development support, and much more.

KParts, KDE 2's proven component object model, handles
all aspects of application embedding, such as positioning toolbars and insertingthe proper menus when the embedded component is activated or deactivated.
KParts can also interface with the KIO trader to locate available handlers for
specific mimetypes or services/protocols.
This technology is used extensively by the
KOffice suite and Konqueror.

KIO implements application I/O in a separate
process to enable a
non-blocking GUI without the use of threads.
The class is network and protocol transparent
and hence can be used seamlessly to access HTTP, FTP, POP, IMAP,
NFS, SMB, LDAP and local files.
Moreover, its modular
and extensible design permits developers to "drop in" additional protocols,
such as WebDAV, which will then automatically be available to all KDE
applications.
KIO also implements a trader which can locate handlers
for specified mimetypes; these handlers can then be embedded within
the requesting application using the KParts technology.

The XML GUI employs XML to create and position
menus, toolbars and possibly
other aspects of the GUI.
This technology offers developers and users
the advantage of simplified configurability of these user interface elements
across applications and automatic compliance with the
KDE Standards
and Style Guide
irrespective of modifications to the standards.

DCOP is a client-to-client communications
protocol intermediated by a
server over the standard X11 ICE library.
The protocol supports both
message passing and remote procedure calls using an XML-RPC to DCOP "gateway".
Bindings for C, C++ and Python, as well as experimental Java bindings, are
available.

KHTML is an HTML 4.0 compliant rendering
and drawing engine.
The class
will support the full gamut of current Internet technologies, including
JavaScript, Java, HTML 4.0, CSS-2
(Cascading Style Sheets), SSL (Secure Socket Layer for secure communications)
and Netscape Communicator plugins (for
viewing Flash,
RealAudio, RealVideo and similar technologies).
The KHTML class can easily
be used by an application as either a widget (using normal window
parenting) or as a component (using the KParts technology).
KHTML, in turn, has the capacity to embed components within itself
using the KParts technology.

Downloading and Compiling KDE 2.1

The source packages for KDE 2.1 are available for free download at
http://ftp.kde.org/stable/2.1/distribution/tar/generic/src/ or in the
equivalent directory at one of the many KDE ftp server
mirrors.
KDE 2.1 requires
qt-2.2.4, which is available in source code from Trolltech as
qt-x11-2.2.4.tar.gz.
KDE 2.1 should work with Qt-2.2.3 but Qt-2.2.4 is recommended.

For further instructions on compiling and installing KDE 2.1, please consult
the installation
instructions
and, if you encounter problems, the
compilation FAQ.

Installing Binary Packages

Some distributors choose to provide binary packages of KDE for certain
versions of their distribution.
Some of these binary packages for KDE 2.1
will be available for free download under
http://ftp.kde.org/stable/2.1/distribution/
or under the equivalent directory at one of the many KDE ftp server
mirrors.
Please note that the
KDE team is not responsible for these packages as they are provided by third
parties -- typically, but not always, the distributor of the relevant
distribution.

KDE 2.1 requires qt-2.2.4, the free version of which is available
from the above locations usually under the name qt-x11-2.2.4.
KDE 2.1
should work with Qt-2.2.3 but Qt-2.2.4 is recommended.

At the time of this release, pre-compiled packages are available for:

  • Caldera eDesktop 2.4: i386
  • Debian GNU/Linux:
    • Potato (2.2): i386, Sparc and PPC;
      please also check the main directory for common files
    • Stable (2.3): i386, Sparc and PPC;
      please also check the main directory for common files
  • Linux-Mandrake 7.2: i586
  • RedHat Linux:
    • Wolverine: i386; please also check the common directory for common files
    • 7.0: i386 and Alpha; please also check the common directory for common files
    • 6.x: i386, Alpha and Sparc; please also check the common directory for common files
  • SuSE Linux:
  • Tru64 Systems
  • FreeBSD
  • Please check the servers periodically for pre-compiled packages for other
    distributions.
    More binary packages will become available over the
    coming days and weeks.

    What Others Are Saying

    KDE 2.1 has already earned accolades from industry leaders worldwide.
    A sampling of comments follows.

    "We welcome the release of KDE 2.1," stated Dr. Markus Draeger, Senior Manager for Partner Relations at Fujitsu Siemens Computers. "The release introduces several important new components, like KDevelop and the media player noatun, and overall is a major step forward for this leading GUI on Linux."

    "We are very excited about the enhancements in KDE 2.1 and we are pleased
    to be able to contribute to the project," said Rene Schmidt, Corel's
    Executive Vice-President, Linux Products. "KDE continues to improve with
    each release, and these enhancements will make our easy-to-use Linux
    distribution for the desktop even better."

    "A greater number and availability of Linux applications is an important
    factor that will determine if Linux permeates the enterprise desktop,"
    said Drew Spencer, Chief Technology Officer for Caldera Systems, Inc.
    "KDE 2.1 addresses this issue with the integration of the Konqueror
    browser and KDevelop, a tool that allows developers to create
    applications in C++ for all kinds of environments. Together with the
    existing tools available for KDE, KDevelop is a one-stop solution for
    developers."

    "With the 2.1 release, KDE again demonstrates its capacity to offer rich
    software and provide a complete and stable environment for everyday use",
    added Gaël Duval, co-founder of Mandrakesoft. "This latest release
    has paved the way for KDE on user's desktops in the enterprise as well
    as at home. From the full-featured web browser to the friendly
    configuration center, it provides all the common facilities many
    computers users need to abandon Windows entirely."

    About KDE

    KDE is an independent, collaborative project by hundreds of developers
    worldwide to create a sophisticated, customizable and stable desktop environmentemploying a component-based, network-transparent architecture.
    KDE is working proof of the power of the Open Source "Bazaar-style" software
    development model to create first-rate technologies on par with
    and superior to even the most complex commercial software.

    For more information about KDE, please visit KDE's
    web site.
    More information about KDE 2 is available in two
    (1,
    2) slideshow
    presentations and on
    KDE's web site, including an evolving
    FAQ to answer questions about
    migrating to KDE 2.1 from KDE 1.x, a number of
    screenshots, developer information and
    a developer's
    KDE 1 - KDE 2 porting guide.

    Trademarks Notices.
    KDE and K Desktop Environment are trademarks of KDE e.V.
    Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds.
    Unix is a registered trademark of The Open Group.
    Trolltech and Qt are trademarks of Trolltech AS.
    MS Windows, Internet Explorer and Windows Explorer are trademarks or registered
    trademarks of Microsoft Corporation.
    Netscape and Netscape Communicator are trademarks or registered trademarks of Netscape Communications Corporation in the United States and other countries and JavaScript is a trademark of Netscape Communications Corporation.
    Java is a trademark of Sun Microsystems, Inc.
    Flash is a trademark or registered trademark of Macromedia, Inc. in the United States and/or other countries.
    RealAudio and RealVideo are trademarks or registered trademarks of RealNetworks, Inc.
    All other trademarks and copyrights referred to in this announcement are the property of their respective owners.

    Press Contacts:

    United States:

    Kurt Granroth
    granroth@kde.org
    (1) 480 732 1752 
    Andreas Pour
    pour@kde.org
    (1) 718 456 1165

    Europe (French and English):

    David Faure
    faure@kde.org
    (44) 1225 837409

    Europe (English and German):

    Martin Konold
    konold@kde.org
    (49) 179 2252249

    [Note: Posting and Thread Thresholds for this article were broken since the early morning of 27 Feb 2001 till the afternoon of the same day, due to a new caching strategy. Our apologies for the inconvenience.]

    Comments

    Of course, kudos to the developers, artists, beta testers and everyone else who contributed! Fortunately I am installing Linux for a friend tomorrow so I can actually celebrate the release, it's not a real milestone for CVS users. ;-)

    By the way, small typo on The Dot:

    It has a whole slew of improvements over 2.1

    Should be 2.0, right?


    By Rob Kaper at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    Yep -- Thanks.

    Cheers,
    Navin.

    PS Yahooo!!


    By Navindra Umanee at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    Great! Again! Thanks to all of you!


    By reihal at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    Propz out to Njaard, tronical, gis, dfaure.. the rest of you :)


    By _shad at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    Mandrake packages are missing. I checked also Mandrake mirros, the result is: totally emptiness.
    Regards,


    By Baracuda at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    Mirror didn't pick them up?

    You'll have to get in to ftp://ftp.kde.org/ which should have them.


    By ac at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    Mandrake's RPMS still missing. They are not on ftp.kde.org. I suggest you remove Mandrake's link to KDE 2.1.
    Best selling Linux distro in USA, what a shame.


    By Baracuda at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    I'm disapointed in mandrake this is deffinately a black eye on them.

    Craig


    By craig at Wed, 2001/02/28 - 6:00am

    Same goes to SuSE ones !!


    By RE: How about speed at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    hey ,
    I am also looking for mandrake rpms, :-( i could find them.
    anybody got hold of any mirrors for this. no news at mandrakeforum also.

    craving..


    By Rajil Saraswat at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    The packagers probably didn't finished packaging.
    The announce sais that KDE 2.1 is avaible, that means source code is avaible. I suppose binary packages will be avaibles in a couple of days.


    By renaud at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    Then clearly the good people at KDE need to pull the link from this page. They were notified the day of the release that the link was no good (and neither are the links for *most* of the packages) and still they do nothing.

    Oh, but KDE is still using QT. And its open source now. So thats good news.

    I guess.


    By yttrx at Thu, 2001/03/01 - 6:00am

    Then clearly the good people at KDE need to pull the link from this page. They were notified the day of the release that the link was no good (and neither are the links for *most* of the packages) and still they do nothing.

    Oh, but KDE is still using QT. And its open source now. So thats good news.

    I guess.


    By yttrx at Thu, 2001/03/01 - 6:00am

    I didn't find the tar files up on ftp.kde.org, although the rpms, debs, etc are there...anyone know of a mirror when I can get them?


    By Jim at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    Looks like you'll have to get them directly from ftp://ftp.kde.org/ (notice ftp not http). Ouch.


    By ac at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    Nope, mirrors won't have anything the main site hasn't.

    I contacted David Faure, he's the release coordinator and I'm sure he will fix the problem ASAP.


    By Rob Kaper at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    Found a mirror that has it (from Slashdot):

    ftp://bolugftp.uni-bonn.de/pub/kde/stable/2.1/distribution/tar/generic/src/

    Enjoy.


    By KDE User at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    As mentioned below you can get the source packages from the Debian directory until this is fixed. Get all the *.orig.tar.gz.


    By KDE User at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    Sweet!


    By Michael M Nazaroff at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    The source packages for KDE 2.1 are available for free download at http://ftp.kde.org/stable/2.1/distribution/tar/generic/src/ or in the equivalent directory at one of the many KDE ftp server mirrors.

    Unfortunately, none of the mirrors seem to have the source packages (many do not even have 2.1 at all, hopefully that changes soon) and it looks like the main FTP site doesn't carry them also.


    By Rob Kaper at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    http://ftp.kde.org redirects to many mirrors, with a frequency depending on their bandwidt.

    It seems that not all of the mirrors have updated yet. Be patient. Take 24 hours if you must ;-)

    And no, I will not say how to reach the master server, since that would ensure no mirror will ever update :-)

    So: KDE 2.1 will not rot in the morning. Doesn't this feel like christmas? Then all be good boys and girls and unwrap the packages in the morning (rpm as well as deb ;-)


    By Roberto Alsina at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    I ment the "KDE server" (on SourceForge) as mentioned in the announcement.

    And actually in our family we exchange Christmas presents the evening before Christmas, so that must be why I am so impatient. ;-)


    By Rob Kaper at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    thanx!
    its great. everything went smooth and these lines r hacked in konqueror 2.1

    locely!
    -gunnar


    By gunnar at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    They will work just as well as generic source!

    potato/main/source/

    Get all the *.orig.tar.gz these are the original tar.gz files with no modifications.


    By ac at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    Unfortunately, configure is missing in kdesupport_2.1-final.orig.tar.gz. Everything else seems to have it. I'm curious if it's a problem for debian source packages only.


    By lesha at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    Good mirror here:

    ftp://bolugftp.uni-bonn.de/pub/kde/stable/2.1/distribution/tar/generic/src/

    The kdesupport has a configure script in that one.


    By KDE User at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    There's also a new Win2K KWin style, which is missing in the changelogs ;)


    By Karl at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    Thanks. :)

    -N.


    By Navindra Umanee at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    Can't say it enough but this is the best Linux Desktop release ever! It's Fast, Stable, Pretty, and so many darn features and apps! If this does not bring Linux to the desktop, I don't know what will!


    By anon at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    Hmm,
    pretty - Oh yeah, it looks great
    stable - what I've tested in this short time, yes
    but
    fast ???

    It seems to be even slower than 2.0.x, and can't still reach the old 1.4.x performance.
    No, its definitly not fast.


    By Adrian at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    No apt-get line? Bit of a pain to manually download each package...


    By quinto at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    http://kde.debian.net/ has apt-get lines.


    By KDE User at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    ftp> prompt
    ftp> mget *


    By Scott Wheeler at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    Or you should download it using konqueror (if you have an older version of KDE installed) to download files via drag and drop. ;)


    By Bojan at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    No need to do that. Just add:
    deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free
    deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free to your /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-get update. You should then be able to apt-get install kdebase and the deps taken care of in the usual way. Alternativley, use dselect, update, and then you can select the parts of KDE2 you want from the menu, again with the deps taken care of.
    The reason there are two sources listed above is because most sources I tried don,t carry the crypto and ssl libs for it for some strange reason. There may be mirrors nearer to you, but these worked for me.
    Hope this helps any fellow debian users.

    Regards, Ian


    By Ian at Thu, 2001/03/01 - 6:00am

    Oh, and here's the link on Slashdot and LinuxToday.


    By anon at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    2.1 is great(er). Thanks and congrats to all whom contributed. This truly is an "enterprise" ready desktop and has allowed me to get rid of that other OS I had used at the office for years.

    Check out my experience on switching over via this small article on TotSP: http://screaming-penguin.com/main.php?storyid=1559

    Thanks again KDE!


    By Charlie Collins at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    here it is

    ftp://bolugftp.uni-bonn.de/pub/kde/stable/2.1/distribution/tar/generic/src/

    bad news: i just costed 8 hours to install kde 2.1 -beta2 in my computer,so this time i have to install qt-2.2.4and kde 2-1 again,anyway,i fell exciting about it


    By chinese_guy at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    I can't find a mirror with mandrake rpms. Has anyone found one?

    Craig


    By Craig black at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    Can't find Mandrake packages either.
    I haven't made it onto the clogged ftp.kde.org, but I did try rsync with it, and it seemed to be missing the Mandrake rpms as well.

    I'd be curious to hear from ANYONE who actually found them somewhere... I beginning to think they just didn't make it. :(

    Also, if anyone can confirm/disconfirm rumors about the debs supporting anti-aliasing, I'm curious about that too.

    Thanks,
    Alexander


    By Alexander Silva Hernández at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    Well, I did make it into ftp.kde.org a few minutes ago and have confirmed that they are no there either. :-(

    Do we know if someone is working on making Mandrake packages?


    By Nikunj Bansal at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    This may explain the lack of KDE 2.1 RPMS for Mandrake.

    Chris Molnar:

    Hello,

    I can no longer speak for Mandrake as I am no longer working for the company,
    but here is my guess: There was probably a slight confusion over who is
    responsible for making the new RPM's. I had been creating all RPM's for the
    7.2 KDE updates until about 2 weeks ago. It takes time to reassign
    responsibilities. I have had some email with people who know what is going on
    and they are working on building rpm's for kde 2.1. You have not been
    forgotten about.

    -Chris


    By Chris Adams at Wed, 2001/02/28 - 6:00am

    Absolutely awesome! I have constantly heard idiots on ZDNet, CNET, etc, claim that although Linux is great on the server, it'll never be as good on the desktop as linux! All we need now is a better KOffice, and a merge or compat with GNOME (no easy task, but I'm positive that the hard working KDE developers can accomplish it) and within 5 years, M$ will be making nothing but mice! Summary : KICKIN! Also, kudos the the awesome developers at Enlightenment, GNOME, WM, and all other OSS projects! The future of computing rests on OSS's shoulders, but I am not worried in the slightest.


    By Carbon at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    The precompiled aRts RPM is missing from the Red Hat 7.0 i386 directory.


    By Anonymous at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    I get the same, also missing libmng :-(


    By Leon at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    Thanks for not letting me know.

    I forgot to upload it, it's in the packager home directory now, waiting for someone to move it over to ftp.


    By bero at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    I have missed Kdevelop so much!!

    That will deffinately be on my top two things to be happy about... but there is so much more... what to pick for my second??????

    Maybe I'll just have to define the rest with a Doctor Suse word, preferably made up of letters after z.


    By greg at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    Gnome is way better than KDE! It kicks butt. I've tried KDE, KDE2, and KDE2.1b, and I am not impressed with any of them. KDE is actually the best of the three. Gnome has a cleaner interface. It has better Apps and no need for tools such as Krash. It's installation is so easy! Plus, it's really free (unlike KDE, which uses software from TrollTech). It looks much, much, much cooler!!!!!!!!!!!


    By Benjamin Atkin at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    Go away


    By Jesús Antonio at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

    Installationg might be more complicated, but I think KDE works a lot better than gnome. Kmail is the best Linux mail client out there I'd say. Konqueror, is a great browser, not slow like netscape or others. No Kde component has ever crashed on me (2.0.1) and I hope it continues this way with 2.1.


    By k0 at Tue, 2001/02/27 - 6:00am

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