JUN
10
2005

Qt 4.0 Release Candidate Available

Trolltech has announced the Qt 4 release candidate, the final preview of next generation Qt. The final release of Qt 4.0 is scheduled for late June until which Trolltech will focus on addressing critical stability issues only. This release introduces several new features and capabilities including completely refreshed and re-engineered Qt demos and examples. Commercial offers were restructured into Qt Console for non-GUI development, Qt Desktop Light replacing the Professional and Qt Desktop comparable to Enterprise editions. Download it from ftp.trolltech.com (mirrors) or read the online Qt Reference Documentation for What's New in Qt 4.

Comments

Wasn't there supposed to be support for the YUV format in QImages?


By Jens Tinz at Fri, 2005/06/10 - 5:00am

All KDE Applications crash when the 'Halant' character is entered many times. Has this been fixed in QT4?


By Asif Ali Rizwaan at Fri, 2005/06/10 - 5:00am

I'm just curious: what's special about that character?


By Jel at Sat, 2005/06/11 - 5:00am

In Indian languages, a letter consists of a consonant plus a vowel ("a" by default.) But you can also get compound consonants. For example, in my surname, if you just put a "va" and "yaa" together, you would get the wrong sound. Instead in unicode you would express it as va + halant + ya + aa.

Normally you don't see the halant. Indian typography has different visual shapes for most compound characters.


By Jaldhar H. Vyas at Sat, 2005/06/11 - 5:00am

Do you have a bug number or other reference for this? Because I can't say I've noticed it.


By Jaldhar H. Vyas at Sat, 2005/06/11 - 5:00am

Hi,

are licensing/pricing informations already available ? Would be cool if Qt/Console would cost significantly less than Qt/Desktop Light.
Will the runtime licensing for Qt/Embedded remain ? It's quite costly, roughly in the same range as Win CE runtime licenses, so that the cost advantage of using Linux for embedded stuff is gone :-/

Alex


By aleXXX at Fri, 2005/06/10 - 5:00am

A toolkit given to us the FOSS movement, on a news site about an OSS desktop environment, and you complaining about licensing costs.
Why don't you just write free software (or else put your questions somewhere else).
Thanks


By $$/\$$ at Fri, 2005/06/10 - 5:00am

I don't think he is complaining (yet). And it is a fair question.


By Amadeo at Fri, 2005/06/10 - 5:00am

Google would have told you that I am writing free software for about 8 years now, and you are probably using parts of it.
Qt rocks, so I'd like to use it also at work. The prices for the developer licenses are ok, and probably Qt/Console will cost less than Qt/Desktop.
But the argument "Win CE is more expensive than Linux on embedded devices" becomes basically void if the runtime licenses of Qt (GUI toolkit) cost more or less the same as for Win CE (OS + GUI toolkit).

Alex


By aleXXX at Sat, 2005/06/11 - 5:00am

So do I (a KDE contributer and living from writing software). However I still think this question belongs on a Qt forum, because it discredits KDE's Qt base. KDE is about free software (but can happily run apps based on other toolkits too).
What annoys me with questions like this, is that something is given to us. And instead of saying thank you, lets see how we can use this, you say I want more, cheaper etc. I don't think asking this will encourage trolltech to do more for us. Obviously they have their reasons, making a living for themselves as well. So either pay for it or use a free LGPL alternative. Either way, it's off topic for KDE.
Btw. it's also possible to write GPL software for a living. My software is always a special product, only one use, and often the client wants the source code anyways. So by giving the client a choice for either cheaper GPL code (because of less time to implement) or more expensive proprietary code, makes it for me a non-issue. Besides, I like to be multi-functional anyways.
So IMO, accept what you're given and, if it's not enough, put your energy in extending/improving toolkits that do give you the freedom for writing closed source ones.


By $$/\$$ at Sat, 2005/06/11 - 5:00am

Quite a few people here program for a living and would like to use Qt for that work. There's no problem with his question; one of the advantages of dual licensing is that it can be used in either a FOSS environment or a commercial environment.

--
Evan


By Evan "JabberWok... at Sat, 2005/06/11 - 5:00am

> are licensing/pricing informations already available ?

No.


By Anonymous at Sat, 2005/06/11 - 5:00am

wow! it rocks.. better than any previous snapshot.
qtdemo is great. designer is very usable (there is even some interesting stuff in plugins.. ;-)
go trolls, go!


By jumpy at Sat, 2005/06/11 - 5:00am

I use the latest Nvidia driver and I remember that opengl was enabled
when I was compiling beta2. At that point of time I had also an older
nvidia driver.
I saw no configure option to turn on opengl support, does anybody have a hint?


By ac at Sat, 2005/06/11 - 5:00am

apt-get install xlibmesa-glu-dev

that was the missing package


By ac at Tue, 2005/06/28 - 5:00am

Haven't had time to compile Qt4 just yet - but can somebody answer this simple(ish) question?

Is it possible to get Qt4 to recognise newly installed fonts whilst an app is running? i.e. run an app, copy a font to ~/.fonts (or fonts:/ in konqueror), can the Qt app now see the new font?

Looking at the source code for Qt3 it appears as if Qt creates a static database of the systems fonts each time an app is started, and there is no way to ask Qt to re-build this database. I assume the same applies to Qt4? (Xft, which Qt uses, can be told to refresh its list of fonts - so Qt has no excuse...)


By Craig at Mon, 2005/06/13 - 5:00am

Argh, and still no GPL'ed win binaries?
I can't see the point to keep 'em back, since the official release will include a GPL'ed version.
I need these win version _now_...


By katakombi at Mon, 2005/06/13 - 5:00am

I still don't see how it is going to do WYSIWYG?

However, PaintDeviceMetric seems to be missing from the documentation.


By James Richard Tyrer at Mon, 2005/06/13 - 5:00am

I'm surprised noone has mentioned that yet, but
to me qt4 feels slower, sluggish, definitly
slower than qt3 / kde. the arthur stuff (bin/qtdemo)
is creeping (but I had to disable RenderAccel due
to stability issues - however, that might not
change anything anyway), but other things as well:
resizing the columns in the qtdesigner properties
pane lags behind the mouse cursor, that doesn't
happen with qt3.
Mind you, this is an old machine (900 mhz cpu), but
it'd be a pity if all of kde got slower by that amount
next year.
or am I doing something wrong?

Jens


By Jens at Tue, 2005/06/14 - 5:00am

Yes, you disabled RenderAccel.


By ac at Wed, 2005/06/15 - 5:00am

yup disabling renderaccel drags it all down. otherwise it looks tasty


By Dr_Bollokovski at Wed, 2005/06/15 - 5:00am