OCT
24
2000

KDE 2.0 is Out!

It's official! KDE 2.0 has been released! Run, don't walk, to your nearest mirror or go directly to the source.
The full press release is below.

DATELINE OCTOBER 23, 2000

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

New KDE Release Is a Major Advance for Linux®
Desktop

Next Generation of Leading Desktop for Linux®
and Other UNIXes® Ships

October 23, 2000 (The INTERNET). The KDE
Team
today announced the release of KDE 2.0 (named Kopernicus),
KDE's powerful, modular, Internet-enabled desktop. This highly anticipated
release constitutes the next generation of the
award-winning KDE 1
series, which culminated in the
release of
KDE 1.1.2
just over a year ago. Kopernicus is the work product
of hundreds of dedicated developers originating from over 30 countries.

"With the experience gained from developing KDE 1, we
almost completely re-engineered KDE 2 to make it even more intuitive,
powerful and user friendly," explained
Matthias Ettrich,
founder of the KDE project.
"We think that current KDE users will be pleasantly surprised with the
remarkable improvements we have achieved. KDE 2 offers
the desktop user the benefit of standards compliance and an array of
new technologies, from
Konqueror, a full featured web browser and
file manager, to KOffice, an integrated
office suite, as well as a slew of usability enhancements, such as KDE's
expanded themeability and configurability and a new KDE Help Center.
It also offers developers an assortment of powerful new tools -- from
KParts, KDE's component object technology,
to KIO, KDE's network transparent I/O architecture
-- for rapid development and deployment of first-rate free or
proprietary software."

"KDE 2.0 is an important release," stated Ransom Love, president and
CEO of Caldera Systems, Inc.
"Our customers are anxious to migrate not only their servers but also
their desktops to the Linux technology. KDE 2.0 will be a key component
of OpenLinux eDesktop, our solution for a seamless and cost-effective
transition strategy."

"SuSE Linux views KDE 2 as one of
the key milestones to vault Linux to the same landslide success on the
desktop that it already has in the server space," added Dirk Hohndel,
CTO of Suse AG. "We are excited to
be able to offer KDE 2.0 as the
default desktop with our next version of the SuSE Linux OS. I am
confident that third party developers will realize the enormous
potential KDE 2 offers and will migrate their applications
to Linux/KDE."

"As Linux-Mandrake focuses on making Linux easy to use, we are very
pleased to include KDE 2, a major evolution of the already superb KDE 1,
in our upcoming Linux-Mandrake 7.2 release", added
Gaël Duval,
co-founder of Mandrakesoft.
"With KDE 2 and KOffice, the KDE team demonstrates again their deep
commitment to make Linux a viable desktop alternative for all users."

"Corel has had a long, successful relationship with the KDE project, and
the release of KDE 2.0 is an important milestone for Linux," said Rene
Schmidt, Executive Vice President for Linux Products,
Corel Corporation.
"We believe that our customers will be ecstatic over the improvements
and new features of this landmark version. The enhancements to the
framework provide power for the desktop in the simple and elegant
fashion that our customers have grown to expect."

Kopernicus includes the core KDE libraries,
the core desktop environment, the initial release of the KOffice suite, as well
as the over 100 applications from the other standard base KDE packages:
Administration, Games,
Graphics, Multimedia, Network, Personal Information Management (PIM),
Toys and Utilities. Kopernicus is currently available in 15 languages
and translations into 20 additional languages will be available in the
coming weeks.

All of KDE 2.0 is available for free under an Open Source license.
Likewise,
Trolltech'stm
Qt® 2.2.1, the GUI toolkit on which KDE is based,
is now available for free under two Open Source licenses: the
Q
Public License
and the GNU
General Public License
.

More information about KDE 2 is available in a
slideshow
presentation
and on
KDE's web site, including an evolving
FAQ to answer questions about
migrating to KDE 2.0 from KDE 1.x, a number of
screenshots, developer information and
a developer's
KDE 1 - KDE 2 porting guide.

KDE 2: The K Desktop Environment.
Konqueror
is KDE 2's next-generation web browser,
file manager and document viewer. Widely heralded as a
technological break-through for the Linux desktop, the standards-compliant
Konqueror has a component-based architecture which combines the features and
functionality of Internet Explorer®/Netscape
Communicator® and Windows Explorer®.
Konqueror will support the full gamut of current Internet technologies,
including JavaScript, Java®, HTML 4.0, CSS-1 and -2
(Cascading Style Sheets), SSL (Secure Socket Layer for secure communications)
and Netscape Communicator® plug-ins (for
playing FlashTM, RealAudioTM, RealVideoTM
and similar technologies). The great bulk of this technology is already
in place and functional for KDE 2.0.

KDE 2 also ships with the highly anticipated initial release of
the KOffice
suite
. The integrated
suite consists of a spreadsheet application (KSpread), a vector drawing
application (KIllustrator), a frame-based word-processing application
(KWord), a presentation program
(KPresenter), and a chart and diagram application (KChart). Native file
formats are XML-based, and work on filters for proprietary binary file
formats is progressing. Combined with a powerful scripting language and the
ability to embed individuals components within each other using KDE's
component technology (KParts), the free KOffice suite will soon provide
all the necessary functionality to all but the most demanding power users.

In addition, KIO's network transparency offers
seamless support for accessing
or browsing files on Linux, NFS shares, MS Windows®
SMB shares, HTTP pages, FTP directories and LDAP directories. The modular,
plug-in nature of KDE's file architecture makes it simple to add additional
protocols (such as IPX or WebDAV) to KDE, which would then automatically be
available to all KDE applications.

KDE 2 introduces a new multimedia architecture based on aRts, the Analog Realtime Synthesizer. ARts enables
playing multiple audio or video streams concurrently, whether on the
desktop or over a network. ARts is a full-featured sound system, and
includes filters, a modular analog synthesizer and a mixer. Its
architecture allows developers to create additional filter plugins and
users to apply sequences of filters using a graphical drag-n-drop
approach. Video support is available for MPEG versions
1, 2 and 4 (experimental), as well as the AVI and DivX formats.

KDE's customizability touches every
aspect of this next-generation
desktop. KDE's sophisticated theme support starts with Qt's
style engine, which permits developers and artists to create their
own widget designs. KDE 2.0 ships with over 14 of these styles,
some of which emulate the look of various operating systems, and additionally
does an excellent job of
importing themes
from GTK and GNOME. Other configuration options permit users to: choose among
icon themes and system sounds (using a simple drop-and-replace approach);
configure key bindings; select from over 30 languages; customize toolbar
layouts and entries and menu composition; employ single-click or double-click
to activate desktop items; navigate the desktop using a keyboard
instead of a mouse; and much, much more. Moreover, KDE 2 fully
supports Unicode and KHTML is the only free HTML rendering engine on
Linux/X11 that features nascent support for BiDi scripts
such as Arabic and Hebrew.

Besides the exceptional compliance with Internet and file-sharing standards
mentioned above, KDE 2 achieves exceptional
compliance with the available Linux desktop standards. KWin, KDE's new
re-engineered window manager, complies to the new
Window Manager
Specification
. Konqueror and KDE comply to the Desktop
Entry Standard
. KDE 2 generally complies with the
X Drag-and-Drop (XDND)
protocol
as well as with the
X11R6 session management protocol (XSMP).

KDE 2: The K Development Environment.
Kopernicus offers developers a rich set of major technological improvements overthe critically acclaimed KDE 1 series. Chief among these are
the Desktop COmmunication Protocol (DCOP), the
I/O libraries (KIO), the component
object model (KParts)
, an XML-based GUI class, and
a standards-compliant HTML rendering engine (KHTML).

DCOP is a client-to-client communications
protocol intermediated by a
server over the standard X11 ICE library. The protocol supports both
message passing and remote procedure calls using an XML-RPC to DCOP "gateway".
Bindings for C, C++ and Python, as well as experimental Java bindings, are
available.

KIO implements application I/O in a separate
process to enable a
non-blocking GUI without the use of threads. The class is network transparent
and hence can be used seamlessly to access HTTP, FTP, POP, IMAP,
NFS, SMB, LDAP and local files. Moreover, its modular
and extensible design permits developers to "drop in" additional protocols,
such as WebDAV, which will then automatically be available to all KDE
applications. KIO also implements a trader which can locate handlers
for specified mimetypes; these handlers can then be embedded within
the requesting application using the KParts technology.

KParts, KDE 2's component object model, allows
an application to embed another within itself. The technology handles
all aspects of the embedding, such as positioning toolbars and inserting
the proper menus when the embedded component is activated or deactivated.
KParts can also interface with the KIO trader to locate available handlers for
specific mimetypes or services/protocols.
This technology is used extensively by the KOffice suite and
Konqueror.

The XML GUI employs XML to create and position
menus, toolbars and possibly
other aspects of the GUI. This technology offers developers and users
the advantage of simplified configurability of these user interface elements
across applications and automatic compliance with the
KDE Standards
and Style Guide
irrespective of modifications to the standards.

KHTML is an HTML 4.0 compliant rendering
and drawing engine. The class
will support the full gamut of current Internet technologies, including
JavaScriptTM, Java®, HTML 4.0, CSS-2
(Cascading Style Sheets), SSL (Secure Socket Layer for secure communications)
and Netscape Communicator® plugins (for
viewing FlashTM,
RealAudioTM, RealVideoTM and similar technologies).
The KHTML class can easily
be used by an application as either a widget (using normal X Window
parenting) or as a component (using the KParts technology).
KHTML, in turn, has the capacity to embed components within itself
using the KParts technology.

Downloading and Compiling Kopernicus

The source packages for Kopernicus are available for free download at
http://ftp.kde.org/stable/2.0/distribution/tar/generic/src/ or in the
equivalent directory at one of the many KDE ftp server
mirrors. Kopernicus requires
qt-2.2.1, which is available from the above locations under the name
qt-x11-2.2.1.tar.gz. Kopernicus will not work with
older versions of Qt.

For further instructions on compiling and installing Kopernicus, please consult
the installation
instructions
and, if you encounter problems, the
compilation FAQ.

Installing Binary Packages

Some distributors choose to provide binary packages of KDE for certain
versions of their distribution. Some of these binary packages for Kopernicus
will be available for free download under
http://ftp.kde.org/stable/2.0/distribution/
or under the equivalent directory at one of the many KDE ftp server
mirrors. Please note that the
KDE team is not responsible for these packages as they are provided by third
parties -- typically, but not always, the distributor of the relevant
distribution.

Kopernicus requires qt-2.2.1, the free version of which is available
from the above locations usually under the name qt-x11-2.2.1. Kopernicus
will not work with older versions of Qt.

At the time of this release, pre-compiled packages are available for:

Please check the servers periodically for pre-compiled packages for other
distributions. More binary packages will become available over the
coming days and weeks.

About KDE

KDE is an independent, collaborative project by hundreds of developers
worldwide to create a sophisticated, customizable and stable desktop environmentemploying a component-based, network-transparent architecture.
KDE is working proof of the power of the Open Source "Bazaar-style" software
development model to create first-rate technologies on par with
and superior to even the most complex commercial software.

For more information about KDE, please visit KDE's
web site.

Press Contacts:

United States:

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granroth@kde.org
(1) 480 732 1752 
Andreas Pour
pour@kde.org
(1) 718 456 1165

Europe (French and English):

David Faure
faure@kde.org
(44) 1225 837409

Europe (English and German):

Martin Konold
konold@kde.org
(49) 179 2252249

Comments

Hi dudez,
i'm experiencing the gnome opposite to the above, and was going to try and install kde(2) from rpms, when i stumbled over libstdc++ (version 2.10 needed, 2.96 in rh7). I - newbie - bit a piece out of my wooden (..) table - and installed GNOME instead.

You seemed to have a gnome working, is it starting in runlevel 5 using gdm/xdm/xfs etc. etc.?? When i use gdm it keeps returning to the login screen whatever i do. I've read about it, rpm'd back and forth (over 40 by now), config'd here 'n there and now this girl is drooolin by the sight of Apple's beautiful Cube alternative and according to my human environment i'm no longer sane. Either that or back - back to pristine rh7 - no experiments nothing - just wait ... and hope for better wheater ... birds outside ... stroking my apple .. mumbling


By francine broekhove at Wed, 2001/03/28 - 6:00am

This has happened to me twice in less than two days: When I start KDE2 ("startx") Kicker boots, but there are no desktop?! Its all gray. Some applications still start (like Konquer, thats why Im able to write this now), but several of the "preferences" apps wont start anymore, like "Keyboard Layout".

I have absolutely no clue as to how to fix this, The last time it happened I created a new user, and moved all the personal files (no system files, nothing fro ".kde" etc) from the old to the new account. However this is obviously not a good solution.

I've installed the "final" RPMs for rh70 on a clean, non KDE1.2/gnome RH70.

Please, does anyone know that I'm talking about here, and - most important - hav some suggestions as to how to "unlock" this situation?

KDE2 is quite simply the greatest desktop Ive ever seen & used - when it works. The network transparency is beatiful. However, an experience like this makes me scared!


By Espen K at Thu, 2000/10/26 - 5:00am

To answer my own post here :-) the tip for newbies, from Zank Frappa a couple of postings above were helpful:

It seems like it was a crash of the DCOP server that caused the hangup. Removed the file .DCOPserver_ and my desktop reappeared. Such a quick fix once you know it... But this should have been cleaned up automatically...!


By Espen K at Thu, 2000/10/26 - 5:00am

This happened to me once I was logging out from KDE2 and got a bit impatient and pressed log out twice.

This results in some processes still running until the next time you log in. Therefore you should kill these processes before logging in again(everything that starts with K is a good guess).


By yngve at Fri, 2000/10/27 - 5:00am

I have installed kde2 from sources, with compilation of qt-2.2.1, libz from zlib-1.1.3, and all work better than 1.94 that I have compiled some weeks ago...

one bug:..:??? Konsole doesn't work...
doesn't startup... nothing appen :(
only a directly kcrash show me some infos...

a little crash via kcontrol...

huf..

I don't so...istead konqueror work fine!
with Java enabled..


By Lorenzo Delana at Thu, 2000/10/26 - 5:00am

YEHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Thanks to KDE TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


By KSteuck at Thu, 2000/10/26 - 5:00am

Just finished compiling and installing kde2... WOW! I've been running an early beta for a while, comfortably. The final release is so polished! When compiled correctly, it's also *very* fast. I'm stunned!!

THANKS KDE TEAM!
(posted with Konqueror - also blazingly fast!)


By tq123 at Thu, 2000/10/26 - 5:00am

It's BEAUTIFUL! What a pleasant working environment! The look and feel folks deserve a raise ;) The icons are wonderful, as are the widget styles and the startup graphic... I'm truly impressed.

Can't say it enough: THANKS!


By tq123 at Thu, 2000/10/26 - 5:00am

I have a lot of problem with the installation of KDE2, my linux box:RH6.2 Kde 1 and Helix Gnome 1.2.

With Kandidat RPM for RH 6.2 I receive dependencies error, so I can't try this, now what I have to do?

Download the TAR and compile it on a clean linux box without Gnome and KDE 1?

And after this wath is the file or files that i should modify for start KDE2?

Can someone help me? I want to use always KDE2! :-)

Sorry for my english I'm an italian people!


By miky at Thu, 2000/10/26 - 5:00am

A good place to start would be http://www.kde.org/install-source.html. Those are the installation instructions. Also check out the mailing list archives at lists.kde.org and the newsgroup comp.windows.x.kde. You may find useful info there.

You may also want to read the LinuxPlanet review for some hints, such as compiling Qt for maximum speed (first seen here on the dot). In my personal experience, compiling with the right options has made kde much faster. I don't think I'll ever install a binary again ;)

Good Luck!


By tq123 at Thu, 2000/10/26 - 5:00am

Thx a lot :-)

Last questions:

- How much time is necessary approximately in order compiling sources?

- Where i can find the list of command for optimizzing the compiling for my system? I ha ve a celly300A@450!

Now i download! Thx! :-)

W KDE


By miky at Thu, 2000/10/26 - 5:00am

I don't know of a list, but I picked up tips from around the net that seemed appropriate (I'm not an expert, myself). I think the most important thing is to disable exceptions when compiling Qt. See this thread for more info.

I also increased the optimization level from O2 to O6. It takes more time to compile with O6 and some people would say it's a waste of time, but it's working well here. Your call. You can disable exceptions and change the O level by editing the file $QTDIR/configs/yourplatform ($QTDIR is the directory where the new Qt is installed and yourplatform is probably "linux-g++-shared") and looking for lines under the comment "# Compiling application source". Mine look like this:

SYSCONF_CXXFLAGS = -pipe -O6 -fno-exceptions -mpentium
SYSCONF_CFLAGS = -pipe -O6

When you configure KDE2, you will probably want to optimize for a pentium and disable the debug code. The command will look something like:

CXXFLAGS=' -mpentium' ./configure --prefix=/opt/kde --disable-debug

Compiling takes a *long* time. On my P2-300, it took hours to compile and install KDE2. It was worth it, though :)

Once you've compiled and installed kde2, you need to set up your login manager to let you use it. I would look at the document the kde folks prepared regarding this.
Compiling for the first time is a bit overwhelming, but don't worry... you may struggle a bit this time, but you'll get it going!

Happy KDEing!


By tq123 at Fri, 2000/10/27 - 5:00am

I try to compile qt o a Mandrake 7.1 with gcc and egcs but using gcc, and without KDE and gnome only console :-), I receive a lot of error about a minutes until i type make. :(

I try to modify the file linux-g++-shared as you tell me with O2 and O6 and exceptions but I receive always this error that stop de compiling.

What can I do? Where is the error?

These are some of lines error that I receive not in order:

......(first are this function)

cpp output pipe has been closed
make[2]: Error 1................
....

:( help me!


By miky at Fri, 2000/10/27 - 5:00am

I'd like to help you, but I'm really not experienced in these matters. :( I'll do my best... two heads are better than one, as they say.

Let's start at the beginning. Did you set your QTDIR to the appropriate directory? Let's say you want to install Qt into /usr/local/qt-2.2.1, you would have to type:

export QTDIR='/usr/local/qt-2.2.1'

Alternatively, many people choose to create a symlink to the directory where Qt resides and call it /usr/local/qt. If you do, set your QTDIR to that instead.

OK, assuming QTDIR is set and you've modifed the configs to your taste, you need to run "configure". It looks like you've already done that, though. The command looked something like this, right?:

./configure -sm -gif -system-jpeg -no-opengl

If configure worked ok, then all that's left is to type "make" and wait for Qt to build. If configure gave your errors, you probably need to install some other library that Qt depends on.
By the way, I'm also running Mandrake 7.1. It does work, but you may have to install some additional libraries from the second cd. I don't recall having any problems once I got configure to work right.

Maybe it would help if you post a little more detail about what went wrong. If you send more of the error message and describe what you did, then maybe it will give some clues. Even if it doesn't, then at least I could help you search for more info from other sources. It would also be worth checking if you have downloaded the right file (I've made that mistake before :). You want qt-2.2.1. It should be in the same directory as the kde stuff.

Well, let me know how it goes. I'm sure you'll get it going eventually!


By tq123 at Sat, 2000/10/28 - 5:00am

Ok thx a lot!

I have see some FAQ about installation and compiling of KDE2.

But I haven't 2 CD of Mandrake so what libraries I need?

I just downloaded:

openSSL
automake 1.4
autoconf 2.13
libpng 1.0.7

The command "configure" work exatly but when I type "make" after about one minute there was an error in compilation, I haven't already try the librarie that I've download. This is my configure string:

CXXFLAGS=' -mpentium' ./configure -sm -gif -system-jpeg -system-libpng

I have to add -no-opengl?

The errors show some functions like Kwin and write (fisrt use the function)

I cannnot show exatly the text :-(

So this is all thank for all at now tq123 :-)

I try to download a new Qt version? I download my from:

http://ftp.sourceforge.net/pub/mirrors/kde/stable/2.0/distribution/tar/g...


By miky at Sat, 2000/10/28 - 5:00am

Well, if configure worked ok then you probably don't need to install additional libraries. It also appears that you have the correct version of Qt. You mentioned kwin, does that mean you're compiling kde2 and qt is already compiled?? You do need to add the -no-opengl flag when compiling Qt, or you'll have problems later.

If Qt's installed and you're working on kde then maybe you're not compiling in the correct order? kdesupport must be compiled and installed first. Then kdelibs must be compiled and installed second. After that, you can compile and install in any order. For any of this to work, QTDIR and KDEDIR must be set. Also, don't forget that /usr/local/qt/lib (or whatever directory you used) must be added to /etc/ld.so.conf. Once you change /etc/ld.so.conf, be sure to run "ldconfig".

Hmmm, I can't think of anything else right now. Hopefully you'll get it running before Mandrake 7.2 comes out with kde2 included :)

Good Luck!


By tq123 at Sat, 2000/10/28 - 5:00am

No I haven't already compiled QT :-) Now I have reinstalled Mandrake 7.1 with X11 Dev library, in TroolTech site in the FAQ I read that for compiling QT must be installed this library and infact the error that I have is some about X11 :-) that before I haven't, I have also install libjpeg, libgif, libpng and libz I think now is all ready for compiling with success:-).

Last questions:

- I would make a script for do all this night while I am sleeping :D I can?
- How I can see the version of my libpng? And in case this is version 1.0.8 i change this with 1.0.7 (how? i have the source)!
- What about libmng? (I have the source)
- In QT site the documentation http://doc.trolltech.com/install-x11.html suggest to change file .profile (in my case .bash-profile) for setting QTDIR and other var is the same of ld.so.conf?
- I hope tu use this string for QT :

CXXFLAGS=' -mpentium' ./configure -sm -gif -system-jpeg -system-libpng -system-libmng -no-opengl

and for KDE package :

CXXFLAGS=' -mpentium' --prefix=/opt/kde2 --disable-debug

Are OK?

I hope that's all, really thx tq123! :-)


By miky at Sat, 2000/10/28 - 5:00am

I'm glad you've figured it out! You could certainly make a script... building each package requires the same steps, so it should be fairly easy.

As for checking what version of libpng you're using, one way would be to use an rpm query:

rpm -qa | grep libpng

Mandrake installs libpng in /usr/lib, so you could also "ls /usr/lib/libpng*". I can't remember if I used the libpng flag, so I don't know what version is needed. The kde installation instructions don't indicate that you have to.

I, personally, don't have a libmng installed. I don't even know what it is, but it doesn't appear to be necessary for kde2.

The QTDIR should be /usr/local/qt, for example, while in /etc/ld.so.conf you would put "/usr/local/qt/lib" and then run /sbin/ldconfig (works here, anyway :)

Your configure commands look good to me, but I don't know what libmng is. What does it do? Anyway, it sounds like you're ready to start compiling. I hope it goes well. Let me know what happens.


By tq123 at Sun, 2000/10/29 - 5:00am

Ok thx tq123, QT compiled.

But now I receive an error with KdeSupport: library iostream.h not found. :-(

Who can post a list of "ALL LIBRARY" need for compiling right KDE2?

Bye. :-)


By miky at Mon, 2000/10/30 - 6:00am

iostream.h is a standard I/O stream library for c++ . It should come with your compiler (gcc or g++) when you first installed it. The default location is /usr/include.
I am not familiar with configure file but I think it should detect whether all the required libraries and header files is available or not.


By jamal at Tue, 2000/10/31 - 6:00am

Yes! Now work right! On RH 6.2 I compiled KDE2!

Thx all in particular tq123 and KDE Team GREAT WORK! Thx :-)


By miky at Thu, 2000/11/02 - 6:00am

Hi
You might have to start fresh...it has happened to me that I got dependency errors I couldn't figure out, and the fresh install fixed things.
Normally though, errors like that are because the rpms were not installed in the correct order. execute these from a terminal window from the directory immediately above the directories listed here:

rpm -U qt2/* for the files in the qt2 directory
then do rpm -i libxmlkde/*
rpm -i pcre/*
rpm -U kdelibs/* kdebase/*
rpm -U kdeutils/*
and then any other packages you want such as

rpm -U kdegames/*
rpm -U kdevelop/*
your distribution probably has KDE users manual.
www.kde.org is good to look at.
http://userlocal.com.articles/kde22fromsource.shtml is a good article

Right now I am trying to do the same as you, only from source...I am getting very frustrated at times, but I learn something every time I try, and some day it will all come together...so much to learn, eh?
Good luck.


By Todd Benson at Mon, 2001/12/10 - 6:00am

i downloaded the src .tars and compiled / installed them. then i use "xinit", and from there typed "startkde &" Kde starts up, But then Kicker crashes, 100% of the time. the little hint window comes up, but without a hint. Kdesktop works, but once i try to open the trash (its the only icon that shows up), KDesktop freezes. Does anyone know what im doing wrong?


By Enix at Fri, 2000/10/27 - 5:00am

I am having same problem. If any one reply or know any thing please let me know.
even it is 2:00 AM.

Thanks,
Snehal.


By Snehal Panchal at Fri, 2004/07/30 - 5:00am

Am I missing something obvious, or should I send this in as a wishlist? ---

I can't find a way to arrange the desktop icons to my
own satisfaction. There seems to be no "snap to grid" setting; if I
right-click on the desktop and choose "Line up Icons" they are
left-aligned by their text-width, as opposed to being centered
which is what I would have expected; if I choose "Arrange Icons"
they are put into the physical alignment I want but are rearranged
in order. What I want is that they should be kept in the order I
have roughly placed them in but aligned along a grid in which what
counts is their icon, not their text width.


By D. D. Brierton at Fri, 2000/10/27 - 5:00am

Well maybe you should upgrade to Windows XP then! Shmuck!


By Dumbass at Wed, 2003/12/03 - 6:00am

Maybe you should FOAD, his reply was THREE YEARS+ before your nasty reply.


By jackass at Mon, 2005/10/31 - 6:00am

How do I make the Icons on my desktop smaller, and hold
them at that size.

I have changed everything I know to change in Control Panel,
Display, and settings, etc.. and can change them to smaller
size,, but, when I Apply, and return to Desktop OR reboot, and
come back up the Icons are large again.

Help, please !!

Thanks


By Gary Reynolds at Mon, 2004/10/25 - 5:00am

u probably dont have write access to ~/.kde
try a chmod -R 777 ~/.kde


By ganja_guru at Thu, 2004/11/04 - 6:00am

KDE2 is wonderful, but I need KDE 1.1.2....
HELP !
I need KDE 1.1.2 sources. Where to download them?
It seems that they have been removed from the FTP site and it's mirrors.

Thomas


By thomas at Fri, 2000/10/27 - 5:00am

Finalmente!!!
Came back from a 3-weeks holiday in Maroc and find a surprise!
Thanx all!!


By doganello at Sat, 2000/10/28 - 5:00am

Dear KDE Team,

First of all I wish to make it quite clear that I am indeed a very strong supporter of KDE. Regarding the release of KDE2 though I wish to make the following comments:-

Geometry:

What the hell happened to being able to set the window size to maximum?
Do you really think that each time we open any program we wish to click the maximised button and that we don't require a default full screen view of say a word processor or the ability to save a maximised setting?

This was one of the best features of KDE1.1.2 over the alternative Gnome desktop!

The new File Manager:

The biggest problem is in trying to set and save your customise default view colors and settings. Example background color settings in different windows and icon layout views that get lost on closedown of File Manager no mater what you do with the save view settings!

Sound problems:

My Yamaha XG sound works really well on KDE1.1.2 but on KDE2 it's distorted and crackles and pops and as for the multi-media players the MIDI is totally useless!

I am using the same Alsa drivers that work very well in KDE1.1.2 so what has changed!

In general now the control of toolbar Icon positions, background color, window shading and window layout is very poor or missing compared to KDE1.1.2 and it seems now with no save or make new theme settings! What happened to all the new vertical/horizontal color shading settings that was talked about time and time again?

I can't help but wonder if KDE2 got rushed out as a counter to the new Gnome desktop rather that being fully thought out!

My gut feeling is that this present release will harm the good name of KDE long-term.

For Info:

System: A-open AX59 pro Motherboard, AMD K6 III 400, 256 Meg P100 SDRAM,
SuSE Linux 6.4 and 16 Meg Voodoo Banshee 800x600 at 24 bit.

KDE2 was installed on a total clean re-formatted new install without any KDE 1 files on system. It proved to be very unstable and Koffice crashed out several times even trying to do very basic word processor tasks. There is no way it would be of any real working use to me in it's present state!

I have now re-formatted and re-installed KDE1.1.2 and all works fine again!

Regards,
James JAB Computers Bristol UK


By James Alan Brow... at Sun, 2000/10/29 - 5:00am

Congratulations,
KDE2 is really Wonderfull. Its fast and beatyfull. Really I liked it a lot. WEll done job boys!

HMK


By Hans M Krüger at Sun, 2000/10/29 - 5:00am

Congratulations,

The moment KDE2.0 came out I grabbed the sources,
compiled it and had a great desktop running. It is really an improvement on the previous version.

Now for the dark side, it seems that a lot of old KDE programs don't compile correctly on KDE 2.0(my own problem is klyx , I know I have kword but this is nove very good at math).
Are there any plans to make them compatible with
KDE2.0? I known if you want to innovate you have
to break with the past and you have rightly do so.
But it will be a good idea if there was a list of all the programs that don't work anymore with 2.0 and if they are plans to upgrate these programs.

Any how big thanks for any one involved with the KDE project


By Marc Mertens at Mon, 2000/10/30 - 6:00am

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