KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download

Tuesday, 5 December 2000 | Dre

The KDE Team has just announced the release of KDE 2.0.1. While the release is primarily for updated translations and documentation and for the addition of Japanese as a supported language, it also fixes many of the very annoying bugs in 2.0. A summary of the fixes and a KDE 2.0.1 Info Page are also available. As always, enjoy!

Comments:

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Nicolas - 2000-12-05

I have some issue to download "qt-x11-2.2.2.tar.gz" from "ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/source". Would it be possible to place a copy of this file in "2.0.1/distribution/tar/generic/src/" like previous 2.0.0 release? Thanks

Re: KDE 2.0.1 - Jim Ermis - 2000-12-05

Please

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Nicolas - 2000-12-05

Ok, now I have it. And... thanks for KDE team. Champagne for all of you!

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Henrik - 2000-12-05

Quick Q for you ppl already running 2.0.1: Is it possible to drag and drop links in konqueror now? ie - drag a link from a page to another window, that loads it. It's pretty much the only feature from netscape 4.x/Mozilla that i miss. -henrik

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Aaron Seigo - 2000-12-05

i'm not using 2.0.1 but a version from CVS of about a week ago and yes, DND links works just fine...

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Doug Keller - 2000-12-05

Really, I just grabbed the Mandrake 2.0.1 RPMs and I couldn't drag html links into another window. doug

Are you using the right wm? - Juju - 2000-12-06

Could it have to do with the wm? Some don't support KDE's DND...

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - ac - 2000-12-06

He said he was using CVS, not 2.0.1.

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Doug Keller - 2000-12-05

Really, I just grabbed the Mandrake 2.0.1 RPMs and I couldn't drag html links into another window. doug

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Ill Logik - 2000-12-05

Really? I can't find Mandrake RPMs, and am d/ling RedHat 6.x src.rpm's...

Kdebase - predator 1710 of Valor - 2000-12-05

I installed Suse 7.0 rpms - works fine though but while installing kdebase-2*.rpm there is a failed dep called "icons". I simply cant find a package which makes me think that it could fulfill this dep. So which one is it?

Re: Kdebase - Adrian - 2000-12-05

Your CD package contains this package. But you can also install with rpm -Uvh --nodeps kdebase*. It will work also usually. bye adrian

Re: Kdebase - Adrian - 2000-12-05

Your CD package contains this package. But you can also install with rpm -Uvh --nodeps kdebase*. It will work also usually. bye adrian

Re: Kdebase - Adrian - 2000-12-05

Your CD package contains this package. But you can also install with rpm -Uvh --nodeps kdebase*. It will work also usually. bye adrian

Re: Kdebase - predator 1710 of Valor - 2000-12-06

What is "my CD package"? Simply say it s package xxx.rpm on suse 7.0 or you can d/l it at http://.... which would be better

Re: Kdebase - Adrian - 2000-12-06

By testing the deps (rpm -Uhv --test *.rpm) I also encountered this unsatisfied one (SuSE 6.4). But I've found a icons.rpm on rpmfind.net, which satisfies it! It should also exist on the SuSE CD in xwm1 folder, because rpmfind structure is similar to Suse's own. Or download it simply, here is the adress of the package on rpmfind: ftp://rpmfind.net:21/linux/SuSE-Linux/i386/6.4/suse/xwm1/icons.rpm

Re: Kdebase - predator 1710 of Valor - 2000-12-06

thankee-say.

Congrats! - Smári P. McCarthy - 2000-12-05

Congratulations on yet annother triumph! KDE is _THE_ desktop environment, and I for one am drooling over the idea of it... A few ideas: Add the window decoration thingymagjig to KControl... I don't know wether it's happening everywhere, but in KDE 2.0 on my box it was missing.. Anyways and anyhow, I'm realy liking what's happening, and look forward to seeing the further development of this beauty. Rock on!!

Re: kcontrol - dys - 2000-12-05

I'm gonna like those kcontrol bugfixes. After trying KDE2 for a while I had this feeling kcontrol became more stable after a week, on which it crashes every time no matter what user or what config files exist. After I used Kicker for a while and got _used_ to it, I really felt in love with it :-)

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Brendan - 2000-12-05

Argh, the error message I keep getting upon trying to kick off startkde look beautiful. "Cannot find octet stream/binary" "No MIME types loaded!" I know it's just missing something. I uninstalled all of my previous KDE stuff with rpm -e, installed QT 2.2.1, kdesupport, kdelibs, kdebase and then the rest.with rpm -ivh. I'm booting into run level 3, and kicking it off with a 'startx' with /usr/local/kde/bin/startkde in my .xinitrc . Can't think of anything I missed. Ideas?

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - wim bakker - 2000-12-06

I'm not sure if this will help , but I seem to remember that it sometimes makes a difference when you rm -rf ~/.kde and ~/.kderc too.

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Richard Stevens - 2000-12-06

Hi, I also have the following lines in my .xinitrc export KDEDIR=<KDEDIR> export QTDIR=<QTDIR> export PATH=<KDEBINDIR>:$PATH startkde The first two are not really neccessary but the missing PATH could cause a problem. If this wasn't it, I have no idea either ;) Good Luck, Richard

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Charles - 2000-12-07

I had this problem with Caldera and KDE2.0. The fix was as follows: cd /opt/kde/lib rm libmimelib.so rm libmimelib.so.1 ln -s /usr/lib/libmimelib.1.0.1 libmimelib.so ln -s /usr/lib/libmimelib.1.0.1 libmimelib.so.1 In Caldera, KDE installs under the /opt directory. You may prefer to rename the libraries instead of removing them. Likewise, check for libmimelib.1.0.1 . Chuck

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Charles - 2000-12-07

Oops, make that libmimelib.so.1.0.1 Chuck

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - James - 2000-12-05

Way to introduce new depenendencies into a BugFix release, guys. I'm tripping out a little that I'd be expected to upgrate libstdc++, and libc for a minor-fix release. These dependencies should have been held-off 'til KDE2.1.

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Carbon - 2000-12-05

Using more recent base libs is always a good idea, since the bug fixes in them often apply to huge amounts of apps! Also, unlike in Windoze, updates to very base libraries are free! Thanks to progs like mandrake update and urpmi, things like this are even easier! I love doing stuff like "ln -s /usr/bin/myupdatescript.sh /etc/cron.monthly"

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - James - 2000-12-05

In most cases, I would agree with you. In this case, however, To install 2.0.1, I would have to upgrade my entire system. Let me illustrate my point. To install the new KDE Libs, I need the new QT libs. Cool. This is not a problem. To install the QT libs, however, I have to upgrade libc (To glibc 2.2), and libstdc++. These are not libraries users should be expected to update. This upgrade will break a number of other applications. Fine, I can recompile. The real kicker in it all, is that to upgrade to glibc2.2, I need the GCC 2.96 development snapshot. Blegh. - James

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - raven667 - 2000-12-06

That seems wrong, I have a RH 6.2 system (VALinux box) with glibc 2.1.3 and QT 2.2.1 (which I compiled from the Source RPM) and I didn't have any problems. I had several KDE 1.9x releases and the 2.0 final installed. I just upgrade to 2.0.1 by "rpm -Uhv --replacefiles k*" in the directory I downloaded the RPMS to. It worked perfectly. What distro/lib versions do you have that would prevent you from installing QT and KDE?

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - ac - 2000-12-06

I could say the same about latest versions of linux2.4testX.... you can't compile 2.4-test12preX since you need latest version of util-linux -> can't install later RPM verisons of util-linux on a rh6-0,1, 2 system since it depends on Glibc 2.2 and can't compile late versions of util-linux either... Who says you can get off the Windows upgrade death march by switching to Linux? I don't see it.

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Stefan Hellwig - 2000-12-06

Why would you want to update to glibc 2.2? Glibc 2.1.2/3 should be sufficient. I updated my system quite a while ago without any trouble. I was using a SuSE 6.0 based system with glibc 2.0.7 and egcs compiler for quite a while until I discovered a bug in libstdc++ (iostreams not working) and I had to upgrade. I grabbed the sources for gcc 2.95.2, glibc 2.1.2, and the latest libstdc++, read the documentation and started compiling. The installation was not a problem (you have to be careful with glibc installation, of course :-) and the system worked smoothly ever since. Regards, Stefan.

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Dre - 2000-12-06

Looks like you are using something compiled for a different system (an older major version of the distribution, maybe?). Also please note that the KDE team does not compile the release, this is done by the various distributions.

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - David Simon - 2000-12-07

If upgrading large amounts of progs is a big problem, then it isn't really that much trouble to simply wait three or four weeks for a new distro to come out with updated libs, and use that! After all, you can buy almost any distro at www.cheapbytes.com for under $20 w/ S&H!

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Greg - 2000-12-07

I just finished compiling qt-2.2 and all of kde2.01 from the source tarballs (with the exception of the games and koffice, just downloaded those) without any problem. I am using gcc-2.95.2 and glibc-2.1.3. It seems that the dependency problems are due to the builder of the rpm's and not kde2.01 itself.

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Manuel Román - 2000-12-05

Thanks I love you, I love ALL KDE TEAM!!!!!!!!

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Luis Digital - 2000-12-05

¿A todos, juntos? :-)

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Manuel Román - 2000-12-05

¡¡¡¡HOLA!!!!! Cuanto tiempo. Hace mucho que no tengo el placer de comunicarme contigo. Y sí, a todos, y sobre todo a ti y GNU_LEO.

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - anonimous - 2000-12-06

Ejem, mariconás las precisas :))))

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Manuel Román - 2000-12-06

No te entiendo. I don't understand you.

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Carbon - 2000-12-05

Yeah, and kudos to the GNOME, Enlightenment, WindowMaker, Sawfish, AfterStep, BlackBox, and other DEs/WMs!

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Manuel Román - 2000-12-05

too, but I love specialy KDE Team. Because KDE is orgasmic for me.

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - benoit - 2000-12-06

But where are debian packages ???

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Hasso Tepper - 2000-12-06

http://kde.tdyc.com

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Mike Goodman - 2000-12-06

Add this line to /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://kde.tdyc.com/ potato main crypto optional qt1apps Have fun

Floating Panels? - ddd - 2000-12-06

Hi, thanks for the great release.. One Question: I got used to the floating panels, esp. the Taskbar, from the CVS. Now I've installed the rpms, and: the panels have gone... What a pity. Or am I doing anything wrong? At least, there is no Add->Extension in the kicker-menu at all. DD

Re: Floating Panels? - Peter - 2000-12-06

Yes, I'd like to make the same "complaint". The extensions were great. On average I have about 10-20 windows opened and having a child panel dedicated mainly to taskbar was a real blessing. I tried to patch up the new 2.0.1 code with older CVS source - all in vain (broken library dependencies). Other than that, KDE 2.x rocks!!!

Re: Floating Panels? - sarang - 2000-12-06

The CVS version that you got is 2.1 branch and not 2.0.1.. 2.0.1 only has bug-fixes.. what u were looking at is future 2.1! I have it installed and loving the extensions etc.. go back to CVS ;)

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Michael O'Henly - 2000-12-06

Congratulations! It's great to see a followup so quickly to KDE 2.0. Two quick questions about installing KDE 2.01 on a Red Hat 6.2 system using RPMs. 1. To install 2.01 and remove 1.12 in one step, is "rpm -Uvh [rpm_name]" all I need to do? 2. The install README says that it is preferable to use qt-2.2.2 but the 2.01 RPMs posted today contain qt-2.2.1. Using RPMFind, I've located Red Hat's qt-2.2.2 RPMs, so I think I'm all set. Just curious: why wouldn't the RPMs be prepared with 2.2.2 (which was evidently packaged on Nov 17)? Many thanks. Michael O'Henly

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Charles Kibue - 2000-12-06

There's the texture example in the qt-2.2.2 examples directory I couldn't compile/make. I removed the $QTDIR/examples/texture directory and proceeded fine, any clues...still looking at the code!

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Jim - 2000-12-06

Still waiting for Caldera rpms. I hope it fixes some bugs in knode and kmail that I've been having.

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Michael Haeckel - 2000-12-06

I hope it fixes some bugs in knode and kmail that I've been having. Don't have to high expectations, this release is mainly for documentation and translations. Only some critical bugs are fixes. Have a look at the changelog.

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Will Stokes - 2000-12-06

Two things: -where are the slackware packages? i converted teh rpms to tgz format with rpm2tgz but this leads me to my next question: -kde2.0 installed to /opt/kde2 when I used teh pacakges or compiled from scractch and set KDEDIR to /opt/kde2. But when I tried installing these new packages nothing gets installe ther, but rather fills up stuff in /usr/*. I REALLY REALLY liked having kde all in the /opt/kde2 dir since it was so EASY to upgrade (mv /opt/kde2 /opt/kde2.old) and then install. PLEASE, can somebody help me find out how I can install all these new bugfixes into /opt/kde2? :)

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - David Johnson - 2000-12-06

The Slackware packages should show up soon in slackware-current. Or you could build them from scratch if you're patient. But converting an RPM to tgz is not always the best thing to do. As you've already seen, Redhat/Mandrake install under /usr while Slackware installs under /opt. You will also miss the /etc/profile.d/kde.sh file meant for Slackware. You could also take a look at package central (www.linuxmafia.org)

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Thomas Eller - 2000-12-06

Congrats! I think KDE is goning the right way. A small question: Does someone know about the system how the icons at the Desktop are arranged when you "Arrange icons"? I have lots of Directorys and files on my desktop an everything is mixed up. It woud be great if KDE had a sorting mechanism that someone understands. E.G. sorting by name or by filetype. Also an auto-sort function would be great. T.E.

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Anonymous - 2000-12-06

This message has been Slashdotted as well! <A HREF="http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/12/06/001253&mode=thread&threshold=-1">http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/12/06/001253&mode=thread&threshold=-1</A> Yes, you'll find a lot of trolls and flamebaits this time too!

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Alan Hughes - 2000-12-06

Question - why has KDE 2.0.1 not included RPMs for all of the locale settings? Am I correct in assuming that we can still use the 2.0 packages for locales that are missing? Apart from that, KDE 2 is an vast improvement over KDE 1.x, and light-years ahead of Gnome IMHO.

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Gunter Ohrner - 2000-12-06

There ARE rpms containig the localizations - more and better localizations and docs is one of the MAIN reasons KDE 2.0.1 exists so it'd be just stupid not to include it... :-?

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Alan Hughes - 2000-12-06

But WHERE are they? I'm using the RH 7.0 RPMs from ftp.kde.org; as an example the 2.0 release included an rpm for a "British" locale. Its certainly not there in 2.0.1 - I've check 2 minutes ago.

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Gunter Ohrner - 2000-12-07

Right, the only translations available for RH7 seem to be in this directory: ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/2.0.1/distribution/rpm/RedHat/7.0/noarch and the British translation is NOT one of them. This is very strange as I'm using the rpms for SuSE 7.0 and there are at least 30 different translations available... Maybe you should contact the pakagers who created the RH rpms. (Another alternative would be to switch to SuSE... <g>)

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Alan Hughes - 2000-12-07

Thanks, but RH suites me just fine at the moment <g>. KDE2.0.1 also seems to be OK with the 2.0 locales, so I'll just leave it as that for the time being. I think I will fire an e-mail to the packagers as soon as I have time.

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Erlend Boe - 2000-12-06

<h1>KDE Too popular??</h1> the CVSUP is down :-((( I have tried for a several days to connect to the CVSUP server, I either get a timeout or "Access limit reached" Is the CVS server working ok? Should I switch to CVS instead? Erlend

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Zank Frappa - 2000-12-06

try max.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Erlend Boe - 2000-12-06

Thanks! That works like a dream :-)

STILL no taskbar outside the panel ?! - StonedBones - 2000-12-06

Great work, 2.0.1 was finished quickly, but I have to say I'm very disappointed ! THE showstopper is still not fixed ! When will it be possible to run the taskbar outside the panel ? Why is Kasbar not downloadable (or if it is, where ? Searching through the whole web only gives me notes that it's avaible via CVS, but because of the firewall here at work I'm not able to connect to CVS). Many people now have complained about this, and it is absolutely neccessary to run the taskbar outside the panel... I'd be very happy if someone could tell me how to fix this, because it's simply very ugly and contraproductive to have this way too small taskbar in the panel. C'ya, StonedBones

Re: STILL no taskbar outside the panel ?! - Matthias Elter - 2000-12-06

You are talking about KDE 2.1 features. 2.0.1 is a bugfix only release. I'm sorry but you will have to wait for the first KDE 2.1 beta which will be released before christmas. Bye, Matthias

Re: STILL no taskbar outside the panel ?! - StonedBones - 2000-12-06

At least these are concrete infos ;-) Thnx StonedBones

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - salim akyol - 2000-12-06

KDE2.0.1, Now Ready for Download salim akyol

Patches? (Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download) - Thomas - 2000-12-06

As the distro is so huge by now: Are there patches available to patch the 2.0 tarballs to 2.0.1, thus saving a lot of download time? So far, I've only seen tarballs. Cheerio, Thomas

Re: Patches? - Robert - 2000-12-09

Yeah! Please could someone make diffs 2.0-2.0.1 - I get the stuff via analogue telephone line, i.e. about 2,5 hours of download for all of kde - that's too much for bug fixes and documentation improvements. This wouldn't be much work for some friendly kde-developer. Thanks! Robert

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - wim bakker - 2000-12-06

I'm experiencing some trouble with kde-2.0(.1). System is RH7.0 with updates applied on a Athlon-based computer, with ibm java sdk-1.3. *Konqueror:java often stops working (applets aren't executed anymore) and with side effect that the url field doesn't react on keyboardinput anymore. So konqueror has to be killed and restarted to be usable again. *Arts:the multimediaplayer doesn't play mp3's (SB-PCI128)Though when I start kde it plays the startup-wav very nicely , xmms does work properly still. Are these problems related to RH7.0 being a bit experimental or is the athlon not quite compatible enough or should I use another sdk??

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Andrea Cascio - 2000-12-06

Hi, I work with SuSE 7.0 and an Athlon with SB-PCI128 too. I'm perfectly able to play mp3 with KDE2 MultiMediaPlayer (Kaiman) so I guess it should be a distribution problem. Don't know about Java.

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - daemond - 2000-12-07

I had some Problems with my SB PCI 128 too (AMD Duron System). I am using SuSE 7.0. My problem was that my PCI 128 did not have the usual ES1371 Chip, but the newer ES5880. So the hardware detection recognized the right card (PCI 128) but with the ES1371 (didn't work well). I simply downloaded an update of alsaconfig from the SuSE support database and the whole thing worked. Good luck.

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Edagrdo Aguilar - 2001-02-14

i had a problem regading with my multimedia player i'm using win95. i can't play my vcd, but there's no problem in my cd-rom when i'm playing it it appears "install a driver that support this type of file. now what i'm supposed to do with this kind of problem. thanx

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - wim bakker - 2000-12-06

Focus-follows-mind won't have the desired effect in many cases I'm afraid, maybe a focus-follows-nose option together with the automagic patch will do it .

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Rob - 2000-12-06

Has anyone else had the following problem... After installing KDE2 and using kdm to login, all of my console shells did not have their path set correctly. I "solved" this by simply forcing each console shell to be a login shell(an extra parameter to the console usually). Now with kde2.0.1, the situation has got worse :-( Now, no path is being set correctly and I am given the failsafe option of just an xterm when X starts. It fails to find any of my session types. Any suggestions appreciated!

KDE SUCKS - Flamer - 2000-12-06

KDE SUCKS KDE SUCKS KDE SUCKS NAAANANAANAAAAANAA lol :)

Re: KDE SUCKS - beavis - 2002-09-30

lol

Re: KDE SUCKS - asdfafsd - 2002-12-10

it really SUCKS! kinda m$ on linux boxes - but much slower!!! use blackbox! kde is for kids

Re: KDE SUCKS - gazza_11 - 2005-03-05

KDE sux because of DCOP which can be the root of all your KDE problems.

Re: KDE SUCKS - a - 2005-04-13

hi, my preference is to work in console, with gnu screen. bye. ~a

Re: KDE SUCKS - hi - 2005-12-16

so what?

Re: KDE SUCKS - kde vs gn0me - 2006-10-21

To use an real-life example here: My father-in-law is a big fan of Saab cars. He's a card-carrying member of local Saab-club, and he's constantly telling me how great and reliable Saabs are. And while he's doing that, he totally overlooks the fact that his Saab has been in the shop two times over the past two months, how it sometimes spontaneously turns the turn-signals on and how the handbrake doesn't work properly. To him, those problems are irrelevant because he's in love with the car. In a way, same thing would apply here. If I tested KDE with a mindset that everything is absolutely fabulous, minor problems might get overlooked. If I really pushed my in-law to mention 10 bad things in his Saab, he propably could notice and mention required number of flaws. But if he just keeps on thinking that his car is the best thing since sliced bread, those flaws would go overlooked. THIS is what I'm talking about here. Note: I'm _NOT_ claiming that KDE sucks (well, all software sucks, some just suck less than others ;)). Far, far from it. It's my desktop of choice and I use it every day. That said, I think it could be even better, and it is my intention to nitpick my way through KDE. And it helps there if I make the conscious decision to find the flaws in KDE. To some, some of the flaws that I might discover are so minor that they are not worth worrying about. But again: if I make it my life's mission to find those flaws, then I will find them. This isn't about how I feel about KDE. That do I really think that it sucks or not. It's about the mentality. If I test KDE while thinking "KDE sucks", it doesn't have to mean that I really think that KDE sucks. I'm having problems putting my thoughts in to words here... > ah, dualism. =) it's either kick ass or it sucks, but it can't be both at > the same time? Sure it can :). Make no mistake: I love KDE. What I'm talking about here is the _mentality_ of testing KDE, not the actual feelings towards the desktop. I do not have an "attitude". I do not think that KDE sucks, overall. I talked about mentality, not actual feelings towards the desktop. Again: I'm not saying that KDE sucks, and I apologize if it sounded like that. What I talked about is a way of testing KDE. If I test KDE thinking that "this thing sucks", it desn't really mean that I think KDE sucks, it's just a preconditioned way of thinking to find any flaws in the system. If I start testing KDE and I already think that "KDE is the best thing since sliced bread!", then I might overlook many flaws and errors in the desktop.

KDE 2 Rocks! - Steve Freitas - 2000-12-06

I've been a heavy Helixcode Gnome user for the past six months, but I've got to say, KDE 2 is awesome! Konquerer is especially impressive -- it shows the doubters that, yes Virginia, an excellent web browser can be produced by a small team quickly without reinventing the operating system wheel (read: Giant green monster which knocks over tall buildings of otherwise productive programmers). One suggestion: It'd be nice if, upon first run, KDE would automagically, optionally, import the Gnome menu items. Then I'd have the best of both worlds. Congrats, y'all, and thanks for sticking it out in the face of the Gnome winds. You've proven that GUI competition is good -- really good -- for everyone.

Congratulation to KDE team! - Prana - 2000-12-06

Congratulation to KDE team for the 2.0.1 release! I've been using Mandrake 7.2 with KDE2, and it's been great - especially Konqueror. I really like it, and I think Konqi is much better than Netscape 4.7x and Mozilla! I'm one of Gnome Foundation members, and although I only speak for myself (not for all Gnome coders), I really wish that KDE and Gnome can be unified step-by-step. Maybe it can be started little by little. Currently Gnome uses /usr/share/gnome/apps for storing its menu entries, while KDE uses /usr/share/applnk. Both KDE and Gnome use the same ".desktop" file format for its menu entry. I hope that maybe someday Gnome and KDE can use a global menu instead of seperated menu. Good luck on the success! :-)

Re: Congratulation to KDE team! - Spark - 2000-12-07

yes, please do!! :) it can't be that difficult. i wish everyone would think the way you do.

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Gutter - 2000-12-07

Good job guys!! Thanks for fixing the menu stuff, looks great. Keep up the good work!!

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Chris Chen - 2000-12-07

Just FYI, when I went to KDE 2.0.1 from 2.0, I suddenly needed libGLU, which is apparently a set of OpenGL utilities. I tried re-installing XFree86 4.0.1, even re-downloading the source and compiling it, but that didn't install libGLU. Finally, I downloaded mesa's OpenGL-compatible 3D implementation (http://www.mesa3d.org/), which installed libGLU. Either my 2.0 install was incorrect and yet somehow still ran, or this library wasn't required until 2.0.1. In general, as I've gone from KDE 1.x to 2.0 to 2.0.1, it seems as though these kinds of dependencies are not as clearly described as I'd like to see them. It'd be nice to have a README that lists all the known dependencies in order to install KDE. It seems as though the only dependency ever listed is QT, whereas there are quite a few more packages required than that.

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Nicolas - 2000-12-07

Did you compile QT library with -no-opengl option in ./configure (see install-source page)? ./configure -sm -gif -system-jpeg -no-opengl

just a quick question... - Spark - 2000-12-07

... why are kde releases always bundled with all possible kde applications? i don't see why i need a new version of ktuberling or even knode. i didn't see any changes in most of the programs i just downloaded. wouldn't it be a better idea to release only a new version of kdebase, kdelibs, etc? i don't see why you have to bundle the DE with the applications. even microsoft isn't so strict. i want a new version of ktuberling if there is a new release of ktuberling and i want a new version of kde if there is a new release of kde. i don't even use kde. i use icewm so single releases of konqueror of kmail would be much more exciting for me.

Re: just a quick question... - Spark - 2000-12-07

argh.. if someone could delete this and the next one please... sorry :)

just a quick question... - Spark - 2000-12-07

Re: just a quick question... - Anonymous - 2000-12-07

It's really strange. Some people are always complaining about the dependencies (so they flame Gnome) and other people are always complaining about no dependencies!

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Rob Olsthoorn - 2000-12-07

It's great and it's beautiful as well! Great Konqueror is finally able to understand some - albeit - very limited javascript and CSS. It is still not a replacement to Netscape unfortunately although some reactions go there. One annoying problem encountered sofar (after 1 hour): half the screensavers don't work anymore because the parameters past to them from kcontrol are incorrect. If you try to select one that might work, you end up with multiple screensavers running in the background or a screensaver not allowing you back on (thank god there are still virtual terminals from slaying them).

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Rob Olsthoorn - 2000-12-07

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Luciano Montanaro - 2000-12-07

I downloaded and tried the kde2. I overall like it very much, however, I found some annoying features: The file selector is much worse than the one that came with kde 1: The worse thing is that file names get truncated, and that renders the file selector almost useless. I managed to display also other information along file names with kde1. Is there a way to change the widget behaviour? The other annoying thing is that the panel does not work too well when in the left corner and with mac-like menus. Uh, also the Window manager does not support the activate-and-pass-click option anymore on button 1. Is there a solution to all of the above, or is something planned for the next releases?

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Luciano Montanaro - 2000-12-07

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Daniel - 2000-12-08

Hi, You must include KDE 2.0.1 for Mandrake 7.2 to download, because the packages in Mandrake Cooker aren't compatible , dependencies problems (RPM 4.0 Libstdc,etc)are painfull to resolve,please put the Mandrake 7.2 RPMs in you FTP site. Thanks.

Big icons? - Marc_E - 2000-12-08

How do you get doublesize icons with KDE2? I really only am stiking with GNOME for that feature. It means a lot to me, though, since I run at 1024x768! Does anyone know where in the configuration/kontrol this is?

Re: Big icons? - KDEer - 2000-12-13

Just go into the control center, click 'Look n Feel, click Icons. Then, you can increase the amount of detail the icons are drawn with by choosing 16, 32, or 48, and use pixel-doubling. 48 w/ pixel doubling created icons so easily visible and huge, using a maximized konqi window at 1024x768, i could only view 24 icons at once! Of course, you don't have to make them that large. :) Always glad to be of service

Re: KDE 2.0.1, Now Ready for Download - Now a FreeBSD user. - 2000-12-10

Hi, KDE 2 seems to be running alot faster in BSD. Alot more responsive than in Linux. Any plans for KDE 2.0.1 for FreeBSD?

Please make diffs - Bill Gates - 2000-12-11

I just downloaded KDE 2 (which is, without a doubt, the best Linux desktop) a couple weeks ago over my extremely slow connection and now I need to upgrade. I really can't download everything all over again, but I need the fixes. So could someone please make some diffs and help out all of us without fast connections? Thanks.