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KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out

Wednesday, 31 January 2001  |  Dre

Coinciding with the start of the LinuxWorld Expo here in New York, the KDE Team has announced today that KDE 2.1-beta2 is ready for your enjoyment. The attached press release goes into the details (and I can't help but throw in this cool screenshot of the new Konqueror splash page), and lists a number of pre-compiled packages. This all in prelude to the scheduled release of KDE 2.1 in mid-February. So what are you waiting for -- startcha 'loadin'. Update: 02/02 10:39 AM by N: Link to Debian packages now included.

 

DATELINE JANUARY 31, 2001

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

New Beta KDE Release for Linux Desktop Ships

New Beta Version of Leading Linux Desktop Offers New Theme Manager, Image Viewer and IDE

January 31, 2001 (The INTERNET). The KDE Team today announced the release of KDE 2.1-beta2, a powerful, modular, Internet-enabled desktop. KDE 2.1 constitutes the second major release of the KDE 2 series, which is the next generation of the award-winning KDE 1 series. KDE is the work product of hundreds of dedicated developers originating from over 30 countries.

This is the last planned beta release before the scheduled release of KDE 2.1 on February 19, 2001. KDE 2.1 offers a number of additions, enhancements and fixes over KDE 2.0.1, the last stable KDE release which shipped on December 5, 2000. The major additions and improvements are:

  • Konqueror, the modular, standards-compliant file manager and web browser, has improved significantly:
    • It can now be configured to provide thumbnail previews for text and HTML files.
    • KHTML, the HTML widget, now has a special 'transitional mode' which greatly improves its handling of malformed HTML pages.
    • In additon, KHTML now has greatly improved Java support. Support for Java security (JDK 1.2 or compatible is now required) as well as Java over SSL using the JSSE classes have been added.
    • Drag'n'drop has been improved; now a URL can be dropped on a web page and the Location label can be dragged.
    • "Favorite icon" support has been added, for displaying a website's icon in the Location bar, in bookmarks and in the taskbar.
    • Devices can be displayed in the directory view and mounted on demand.
    • File-name completion has been improved and in-place file renaming added.
    • Additional protocols supported include a LAN browser (lan:/ and rlan:/), a floppy browser (floppy:/) and a CD browser (cd:/), which includes CDDB support.
    • It now stores bookmarks using the standard XBEL bookmark format; a new bookmark editor complements the new standard.
    • Auto-proxy configuration and support for proxies requiring authentication have been implemented.
  • KDevelop, a C/C++ integrated development environment, has been added to the core KDE distribution. The version being shipped, 1.4beta2, is the first version of KDevelop to make use of the KDE 2 libraries and integrate completely with the KDE 2 desktop.
  • A new and much-anticipated theme manager, as well as a LILO configuration tool, have been added to KControl, the KDE control panel. The control panel now lists all available I/O slaves.
  • Many icons have been improved. In addition, semi-transparency (alpha-blending) has been implemented on small images and icons.
  • The panel (Kicker) has enjoyed significant improvements. An external taskbar has been included (familiar to KDE 1 users), support for sub-panels has been added (which can be separately sized and positioned), an improved external pager (Kasbar) has been added, and support for applets has been improved (including support for WindowMaker dock applets).
  • ARts, the KDE 2 multimedia architecture, now offers a control module to configure sampling rate and output devices, increased performance, improved user interfaces and a number of additional effects and filters.
  • Pixie, an image viewer/editor, has been added to the Graphics package.
  • KAB, the KDE address book, now provides regular expression searching of the address database and can export the database to HTML files.
  • For developers, a number of classes have been added to the core libraries, including a class for undo/redo support (KCommand) and a class for editing list boxes (KEditListBox).
  • Many additional improvements, particularly to KMail, the mail client, and KNode, the news reader. A more complete list of changes is available here.

KDE 2.1-beta2 includes the core KDE libraries, the core desktop environment, as well as the over 100 applications from the other standard base KDE packages: Administration, Games, Graphics, Multimedia, Network, Personal Information Management (PIM), Toys and Utilities. In addition, this release includes the development packages KDevelop, Bindings, an SDK and Documentation. KOffice is not included in this release.

All of KDE 2.1-beta2 is available for free under an Open Source license. Likewise, Trolltech's Qt 2.2.x, the GUI toolkit on which KDE is based, is also available for free under two Open Source licenses: the QPublic License and the GNU General Public License.

A more complete list of major changes, a FAQ about the release and the KDE 2.1 release plan are available at the KDE website. More information about KDE 2 is available in a slideshow presentation and on KDE's web site, including a number of screenshots, developer information and a developer's KDE 1 - KDE 2 porting guide.

Downloading and Compiling KDE

The source packages for KDE 2.1-beta2 are available for free download at http://ftp.kde.org/unstable/distribution/2.1beta2/tar/generic/src/ or in the equivalent directory at one of the many KDE ftp server mirrors. KDE 2.1-beta2 requires qt-2.2.1, which is available from the above locations under the name qt-x11-2.2.1.tar.gz, although qt-2.2.3 is recommended. KDE 2.1-beta2 will not work with versions of Qt older than 2.2.1.

For further instructions on compiling and installing KDE, please consult the installation instructions and, if you encounter problems, the compilation FAQ.

Installing Binary Packages

Some distributors choose to provide binary packages of KDE for certain versions of their distribution. Some of these binary packages for KDE 2.1-beta2 will be available for free download under http://ftp.kde.org/unstable/distribution/2.1-beta2/rpm/ or under the equivalent directory at one of the many KDE ftp server mirrors. Please note that the KDE team is not responsible for these packages as they are provided by third parties -- typically, but not always, the distributor of the relevant distribution.

KDE 2.1-beta2 requires qt-2.2.1, the free version of which is available from the above locations usually under the name qt-x11-2.2.1, although qt-2.2.3 is recommended. KDE 2.1-beta2 will not work with versions of Qt older than 2.2.1.

At the time of this release, pre-compiled packages are available for:

Please check the servers periodically for pre-compiled packages for other distributions. More binary packages will become available over the coming days and weeks.

About KDE

KDE is an independent, collaborative project by hundreds of developers worldwide to create a sophisticated, customizable and stable desktop environment employing a component-based, network-transparent architecture. KDE is working proof of the power of the Open Source "Bazaar-style" software development model to create first-rate technologies on par with and superior to even the most complex commercial software.

For more information about KDE, please visit KDE's web site.


Trademarks Notices. Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds. Unix is a registered trademark of The Open Group. Trolltech and Qt are trademarks of Trolltech AS. Java is a trademark of Sun Microsystems, Inc. All other trademarks and copyrights referred to in this announcement are the property of their respective owners.

Press Contacts:
United States:Kurt Granroth
granroth@kde.org
(1) 480 732 1752
 
Andreas Pour
pour@kde.org
(1) 718 456 1165
Europe (French and English):David Faure
faure@kde.org
(44) 1225 837409
Europe (English and German):Martin Konold
konold@kde.org
(49) 179 2252249

Comments:

Where is KAB - Ole - 2001-01-31

Looks pretty cool!!! ... but where's the addressbook (kab)? I'm using the SuSE-RPMs and it's missing.

Re: Where is KAB - Moritz Moeller-Herrmann - 2001-01-31

It is called abbrowser now. Maybe the title in the .desktop file sahould be changed...

Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out - Anonymous - 2001-01-31

A press release for every release and you guys call that "bad marketing" ?

Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out - Roberto Alsina - 2001-01-31

Why, do you suggest we should not tell anyone?

Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out - Christian Naeger - 2001-01-31

Are there Qt-2.2.3 packages for SuSE? Good work!

Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out - Gutschy - 2001-01-31

yes on: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/KDE2/update_for_7.0/xdev1 and xdev2

Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out - Carsten - 2001-02-02

You can get these directly from the SuSE ftp-Server (ftp.suse.com). I read about it in the Xfree4.0.2-folder.

Theme manager - renaud - 2001-01-31

Is the new theme manager backward compatible with KDE 2.0 and KDE 1.1.2 themes?

Theme manager - renaud - 2001-01-31

Is the new theme manager backward compatible with KDE 2.0 and KDE 1.1.2 themes?

Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out - SK - 2001-01-31

The RedHat RPMs for the 6x branch don't include the kde-network rpm's. Because I uninstalled all of the kde rpm's, I no longer have kmail, kpm, etc. I tried the old 2.0.1 rpm's, but I get dependency errors. <P> Is there a place where I can get a good kde-network rpm for RedHat 6.2?

Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out - APW - 2001-02-01

I downloaded kdenetwork source and compiled on RH6.2 -- it's failing all over the place. Kmail, won't compile for sure, but korn did. e.g. [pwigg@CR855990-A kmail]$ make Making all in pics make[1]: Entering directory `/home/pwigg/download/kdenetwork-2.1-beta2/kmail/pics' Making all in toolbar make[2]: Entering directory `/home/pwigg/download/kdenetwork-2.1-beta2/kmail/pics/toolbar' Making all in locolor make[3]: Entering directory `/home/pwigg/download/kdenetwork-2.1-beta2/kmail/pics/toolbar/locolor' make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'. make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/pwigg/download/kdenetwork-2.1-beta2/kmail/pics/toolbar/locolor' Making all in hicolor make[3]: Entering directory `/home/pwigg/download/kdenetwork-2.1-beta2/kmail/pics/toolbar/hicolor' make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'. make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/pwigg/download/kdenetwork-2.1-beta2/kmail/pics/toolbar/hicolor' make[3]: Entering directory `/home/pwigg/download/kdenetwork-2.1-beta2/kmail/pics/toolbar' make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/pwigg/download/kdenetwork-2.1-beta2/kmail/pics/toolbar' make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/pwigg/download/kdenetwork-2.1-beta2/kmail/pics/toolbar' make[2]: Entering directory `/home/pwigg/download/kdenetwork-2.1-beta2/kmail/pics' make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/pwigg/download/kdenetwork-2.1-beta2/kmail/pics' make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/pwigg/download/kdenetwork-2.1-beta2/kmail/pics' make[1]: Entering directory `/home/pwigg/download/kdenetwork-2.1-beta2/kmail' g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/include/kde -I/usr/lib/qt-2.2.3/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -D_REENTRANT -O2 -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -Wall -pedantic -W -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes -Wwrite-strings -Wno-long-long -Wnon-virtual-dtor -fno-builtin -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -frtti -UQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -UQT_NO_COMPAT -c kmmainwin.cpp In file included from /usr/include/sys/socket.h:34, from /usr/include/mimelib/protocol.h:29, from /usr/include/mimelib/smtp.h:35, from kmsender.h:7, from kmmainwin.cpp:61: /usr/include/bits/socket.h:226: warning: ANSI C++ forbids zero-size array `__cmsg_data' kmmainwin.cpp: In method `void KMMainWin::slotSetEncoding()': kmmainwin.cpp:440: no matching function for call to `KCharsets::encodingForName (QString)' kmmainwin.cpp: In method `void KMMainWin::slotMailChecked(bool)': kmmainwin.cpp:632: `beep' undeclared in namespace `::KNotifyClient' kmmainwin.cpp: In method `void KMMainWin::setupMenuBar()': kmmainwin.cpp:1508: no matching function for call to `KCharsets::descriptiveEncodingNames ()'make[1]: *** [kmmainwin.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/pwigg/download/kdenetwork-2.1-beta2/kmail' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 [pwigg@CR855990-A kmail]$ cd ..

Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out - SK - 2001-02-01

I went back and tried the kdenetwork rpm from the 7.0 branch. It didn't complain, but I haven't extensively tested it out. Not surprisingly, it looks like more effort is going into the 7.0 rpm's than the 6.x rpms.

Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out - APW - 2001-02-04

Followup: I downloaded the RPMs for RH6.2, installed and then did a successful compile of kdenetwork from source. There must have been some header files or libraries that were included in the RPMs. I must admit that I haven't done a compile of all of KDE from source yet.

Feature/Enhancement Request - David Johnson - 2001-01-31

Since Linux is not the only platform KDE runs on, the LILO tools caught my eye. IMHO, it would be a Good Thing(tm) for KDE to separate out the Linux specific parts into a kdelinux package.

Re: Feature/Enhancement Request - Matt Newell - 2001-02-01

Who says that Lilo is linux specific?

Re: Feature/Enhancement Request - Carbon - 2001-02-01

well, it does stand for "linux loader". Also, a grub tool would be nice.

Re: Feature/Enhancement Request - Anon - 2001-02-01

If you did "man lilo" you'd see that though LILO was desinged for linux specificly, it is a MULTI-OS Loader! What are you using right now to dual boot windoze? "umm... LILO?" yes, LILO, well done. Thanks KDE Team for an kick-ass Desktop-Enviroment!!!!! All I seem to do nowadays is "cvs up kde*" WOW!!!!!

Re: Feature/Enhancement Request - Milos - 2001-02-02

People who multi-boot FreeBSD for instance almost definitely do not use LILO, but BSD's loader.

Re: Feature/Enhancement Request - Carbon - 2001-02-02

I don't use lilo at all, it is lacking many of the features of grub, including an ultra nifty interface, and an emergency console mode with bash like syntax, allowing you to do some recovery stuff without even having an emergency boot disk! Also, lilo is part of linux, and although people who use other OSs sometimes use it, it isn't INCLUDED with those OSs, so they will be more likely to use the built in one. Boot selectors, are not particaulary complex pieces of software (at least when compared, to say, KDE) :)

Re: Feature/Enhancement Request - KDE User - 2001-02-02

<I>If you did "man lilo" you'd see that though LILO was desinged for linux specificly, it is a MULTI-OS Loader!</I> <BR> From my experience, it appears that LILO often can't boot Linux, not to mention other operating systems. No matter what the manpage says. <P> <I>What are you using right now to dual boot windoze? "umm... LILO?"</I> <BR> I use BSD boot manager. Works every time.

Re: Feature/Enhancement Request - Anonymous - 2001-02-03

<p>Maybe, instead of only being a LILO program, it could be something like KBootLoader. It could have compatibility with various bootloaders, including LILO, Grub, and the BSD bootloaders. It would do all the basics (adding/removing an OS or partition, timeouts etc.), and then have a seperate part for bootloader-specific options (ex. LILO's lba32 and prompt options).</p> <p>That way, it would be a program that would be applicable with more UNIX/UNIX-like systems, rather than being a LILO-only solution.</p>

Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out - Doug Holland - 2001-01-31

<p>Very nice, I'll be downloading the new betas tonight!. <p>BTW, are you guys planning on adding text anti-aliasing support to KDE soon, now the XRender extension and patches to Qt are available to do this?

Anti-alias works already. - Moritz Moeller-Herrmann - 2001-01-31

AS all KDE apps are qt apps, you just have to recompile your QT with the render extension (you need a new freetype2 and an Xfree-4.02+ with the render extension) and then it just WORKS. No internal support in KDE needed, though I think in KDE2.1final, the antialiassing will be made configurable by GUI when available...

Re: Anti-alias works already. - Evandro - 2001-01-31

there's a patch to configure whether to use or not aa fonts, but kde was message-freeze so it won't make into 2.1-final.

Re: Anti-alias works already. - Lukas Tinkl - 2001-02-01

I want to assure you the GUI configuration stuff for AA _did_ make it into this beta :-) <br> It should be under <em>Preferences -> Look & Feel -> Style</em> <br> Regards, Lukas Tinkl [lukas@kde.org]

Re: Anti-alias works already. - Evandro - 2001-02-02

that's not in the official kde; however, bero patched redhat rpms to show that.

Re: Anti-alias works already. - gnu128 - 2001-02-01

so which version of: - xfree do i need? is a self compiled 4.02 ok. - freetype do i need? is 2.01 enough? and where can i get the qt-patch? PS: someone should add a "AA-font" question and answer into the FAQ.

Re: Anti-alias works already. - ne... - 2001-02-01

See http://www.xfree86.org/~keithp/render for further details.

The Java Litmus Test - JC - 2001-01-31

Can I use it to play bridge at www.station.sony.com? Netscape locks up there faster than you can bid no-trump!

Re: The Java Litmus Test - caatje - 2001-01-31

check the pic

Re: The Java Litmus Test - JC - 2001-02-01

Hallelujiah - I am saved!

Is it backwards compatable with 2.0? - JC - 2001-01-31

I installed beta1 and it pretty much barfed on my existing configuration files from 2.0.1. Should we start over from scratch when upgrading?

Re: Is it backwards compatable with 2.0? - Evandro - 2001-02-01

you shouldn't have any problems. if you have, please report them.

Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out - Bernd - 2001-01-31

I installed the SuSE 7.0 packages. KDE 2.1 beta2 looks very nice and is more stable. But, I miss korganizer. It is not in the bin directory. What is the reason?

Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out - Michael O'Henly - 2001-02-01

Look for "Organizer" under the Office menu.

Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out - Bernd - 2001-02-01

There is no Organizer entry in my Office menu. Also KOrganizer is not in my KDE2 bin directory. Maybe a error in the SuSE 7.0 RPM's?

Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out - steve - 2001-02-01

What about Suse 6.4 RPMs? There weren't any for the last beta. What about this beta?

Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out - steve - 2001-02-01

What about Suse 6.4 RPMs? There weren't any for the last beta. What about this beta?

Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out - gnu128 - 2001-02-01

cool! :-) but can we expect to have a themable and perhaps shadowed mouse-cursor in the future? or who's task is it to implement that? (xfree,qt or kde). i really want colored (not just monochrome-cursors) and i would like to change the "hotX-, hotY-position" of the cursor. the best would be cursors with 8bit alphachannel. i see no reason not to implement this! what i find good is: the new Application-icons! (specially in the Startmenu) the old icons where very bad!!! are there so few people designing the icon? do u need help?

Drop shadows - Justin - 2001-02-01

I believe the mouse cursor is controlled by X, but I'm not sure. On a side note, Qt/Embedded has a nice drop shadow on its mouse cursor. While we're on the subject of pretty things, another cool effect would be drop shadows on popup menus. I noticed this in ssh.com's client for Windows and it looks quite good. I'm not exactly sure how possible this is though. I know some Qt, and I was thinking a wrapper to the popup menu could do it. But then what if the area under the popup menu changes (ie scrolls or something) ? The shadow would need to redraw. It sounds like an insane amount of work, but the ssh guys pulled it off quite easily with Windows, and it's not even a natural feature there. Any other Qt programmers here with some insight? -Justin

Re: Drop shadows - anonymous - 2001-02-01

I've asked for this, too, and this is the answer that I got: X does not support alpha channel (transparency). There fore, shadows are not possible at all. Period. Also, cursors are one bit, meaning they can only be black&white. Not grayscale, black&white. Very sad, but true. But not too long ago, a hero named Keith Packard created something revolutionary: The XRender extension (which finally makes Anti-Aliased text feasible). I do not know though, whether that has any meaning for general alpha capabilities of X or not. But on Keith's homepage, I HAVE already seen (semi-)transparent windows. So at least, there seems to be somebody working on it!

Re: Drop shadows - Sam - 2001-02-03

He is not working on it. He is _done_ working on it and is just improving it now.<br> Alpha cursors that you can see in Windows 2000 will be possible through changes in XFree86. Probably this year... <br>/Sam

Re: Drop shadows - laky - 2001-02-06

as well as faster pcs with more ram.? i think that more stable applications, which are using low system resources, are more necessity than nice icons and transparent cursors and shadows. for, example the most "stable" and usable kde application - konqueror - cannot be still compared with ms ie.

Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out - SK - 2001-02-01

>what i find good is: the new Application-icons! (specially in the Startmenu) the old icons where very bad!!! are there so few people designing the icon? do u need help? Check out artist.kde.org

Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out - XFree has this "feature" - 2003-02-27

The latest XFree (4.3) has the UGLY feature of transparent and shadowed mousecursor..

Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out - XFree has this "feature" - 2003-02-27

The latest XFree (4.3) has the UGLY feature of transparent and shadowed mousecursor..

Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out - great work! - 2001-02-01

Is the KDE team going to come up something like a updater similiar to GNOME's red carpet? Trying to download all the RPMs and then install them isn't the easiest thing to do.

Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out - Stephan Böni - 2001-02-01

When you have downloaded all files, you can create a simple setup-script like this (update only): <b> echo "rpm -Uvh --nodeps --force *.rpm" > setup.sh chmod 755 setup.sh <b> The script must be placed in the same directory where the donwloaded files are stored.

Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out - Stephan Böni - 2001-02-01

second try: When you have downloaded all files, you can create a simple setup-script like this (update only): <b> <br><br> echo "rpm -Uvh --nodeps --force *.rpm" > setup.sh <br> chmod 755 setup.sh <br><br> </b> The script must be placed in the same directory where the donwloaded files are stored.

Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out - Rikard Anglerud - 2001-02-01

Just doing a <b>rpm -Fvh </b> might actually work. I use it to upgrade my rsynced Mandrake betas.

Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out - Eron Lloyd - 2001-02-02

There is some work being done to address this - we can only hope that "the involved" decide to go through with it. It would be a great thing, indeed. Someone had mentioned on a previous posting about breaking the packages up - some of them, like kdenetwork, may be a little large if the user just want email and Internet dialer, but not any of the others. I agree, we need an equivalent.

KDE sound effects - ac - 2001-02-01

I recently tried KDE 2.0.1 by installing some RPMS I think I found on ftp.kde.org. All the improvements are pretty amazing I must say. However, one odd thing was the sample sound effects provided. In particular, the startup sound effect is the same as Windows 98 afaik. I don't know if somebody just copied it from their Windows filesystem but regardless, I think KDE shouldn't copy/steal such stuff from Windows. In the worst case, Microsoft would be pissed of at people borrowing their sound effects.

Re: KDE sound effects - anonymous coward - 2001-02-01

I don't know where you've got your rpms from, but the sounds are normally NOT the same. Really! I must admit, though, that I do not really like them. Then again, KDE probably doesn't have the resources to hire a symphony orchestra for a startup-sound :)

Re: KDE sound effects - Brian Eno! - Niklas Lönnbro - 2001-02-03

The startup sound for Windows 95 seems to have been composed by Brian Eno - check out properties for The Microsoft sound.wav. Actually, I still like it, it's better than the w98 startup noise and, yes, in my opinion better than the KDE 2.01 startup sound. Why don't somebody ask Brian Eno if he is interested in helping out, for a good cause? He might even be featured in the next OSS movie, the one about KDE... ;-)

Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out - Nicholas Hagen - 2001-02-01

Anyone know where that Konqueror splash startup page is located? I use KDE from current CVS so it never loads like that.

Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out - anonymous coward - 2001-02-01

try about:konqueror, that should work!

Dock Application bar and Java apps - Pedro Ziviani - 2001-02-01

KDE 2.1 beta 2 looks great and it's rock solid on my Mandrake 7.2. The support to WindowMaker applets through the Dock Application bar works fine and I have it on my screen all the time loaded with many applets. However there's one very annoying bug on it: every time I load a Java application, it "docks" into the Application Dock when it obviously shouldn't, making it impossible to use them. I currently have to close the Dock in order to load Java apps and then load the Dock again afterwards. Has anyone else experienced this same bug?

It rocks!! But what about aRts in RH7.0 packages? - Jörg Sauer - 2001-02-01

Beta2 absolutely rocks!! I'm coming from 2.0.1 (which I already liked a lot) and the improvements that made it into beta2 are totally mind-blowing! Konqueror for example... hardly any page now that doesn't render correctly, JavaScript and Java work (most of the time), a super-slick styling... Wow! This is the future of UNIX/Linux web browsing! The panel... now, after all the complaining, you gave us THREE different ways to have an external taskbar on our desktop. I chose to start a child panel with only the taskbar enabled. Cool. And there's so much more and it's listed on the HP anyway. You guys totally rock!! I can't over how great this Beta is! One minor oddity though: I installed the RH7.0 packages and some of the RPMs depend on an arts-2.1 package. I thought aRts was included in kdelibs and kdemultimedia? I force-installed w/out the packages and had no sound. I then got an arts RPM from Rawhide (some 2.0 unstable snapshot) and now everything seems to work. But I'm quite sure the installation wasn't intented to work like this, so please, what's the deal here? Thanks Jörg

Inserting pictures into Kmail ? - Martin A. - 2001-02-01

Hi ! I wonder if anyone know how to insert pictures into an e-mail in kmail. I use this feature quite often with Netscape 6, but haven't been able to do this with Kmail. Thanks. Martin

Re: Inserting pictures into Kmail ? - Moritz Moeller-Herrmann - 2001-02-02

TO do this you would need an HTML editor. But HTML mails are EVIL. SO at the moment I would not count on support. Why not just attach the picture?

Re: Inserting pictures into Kmail ? - Martin - 2001-02-03

Well, I think it's a bit more elegant to insert the image directly into the e-mail, but if this is a security threat, then it should not be included in Kmail :) Martin

Re: Inserting pictures into Kmail ? - Dave - 2003-01-23

Only its not a security threat. You are right it would be more elegant. However the attitude of text only emails is a hang over from pre-web days that some hackers still seem to have. People want different fonts / colours and pictures in their email. Thats just the way it is

Re: Inserting pictures into Kmail ? - Be4Truth - 2006-03-17

If HTML mails are EVIL why did the Divine made them? Maybe women don't tempt computer geeks anymore so He made HTML emails .....

Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out - kreppel - 2001-02-01

are there plans implementing imap in kmail ? it seems quite impossible (until aethera/magellan is finished) to find a decent mail client for kde now ...

Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out - ac - 2001-02-01

Yes there is, but the IMAP code wasn't ready soon enough to be released with KDE2.1, so they're releasing it separately later.

Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out - Andras - 2001-02-02

You can use also the current KMAIL with IMAP. :) Of course not alone, you need the fetchmail and procmail, get the mails through IMAP with fetchmail, put in a local directory, and set the KMail to read the mails from the local directory. This works until the native IMAP support comes out.

Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out - a bit late that message - Christian Parpart - 2001-02-01

Hi all, I've recognized that release a lot of days ago , downloaded it and was waiting for the release announcement on the web. But I was still waiting - until today. A bit late maybe, isn't it? Regards, Christian Parpart.

Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out - a bit late that message - Francisco Leon - 2001-02-01

Announcements arent made until a few days later so they have more time to do some internal testing and allowing time for the mirrors to catch the files Check out the kde 2.1 plan list

Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out - Pete L - 2001-02-01

The press release says that automatic proxy now works in Konqueror. But there's nothing about configuring it in the manual (guess that takes more time to update) and I can't seem to get it to work. Any ideas?

As usual no debian support...Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is - Daniel - 2001-02-01

What's up guys? Why can't you give deb's alongside all those rpm's ? Ok, the debian guys gave you an hard time, but I think that you are the ones loosing with that atittude... Daniel

Re: As usual no debian support...Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is - Iuri Fiedoruk - 2001-02-01

For what I know about KDE, they just support the sources, all binaries, etc are from the distros. For example, redhat packages are made by redhat people, mandrake are made by mandrake staff, and so goes... I don't think it's a good politicy, but once is the onde KDE team use, we can't blame them for missing support for some system, but ask the guys who make the distro to support KDE.

Re: As usual no debian support...Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is - Daniel - 2001-02-01

I didn't know that.... Sorry for the rant, I thought the rpm's were made by KDE. Daniel

RTFPR = Read the F* Press Release - Roberto Alsina - 2001-02-02

it says it right there: "Installing Binary Packages: [...] Please note that the KDE team is not responsible for these packages as they are provided by third parties -- typically, but not always, the distributor of the relevant distribution." You ain't getting no sympathy complaining in an article's forum without actually reading it ;-)

Re: As usual no debian support...Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is - Francisco Leon - 2001-02-01

Debian is the most outdated distro there is, and it's very hard to find packages made for the latest application. As you may know kde uses qt which at that time didn't have GPL so debian would not use kde, until woody. Heck, there aren't even decent xfree 4 packages out there, just development packages Blame Debian not Kde

Re: As usual no debian support...Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is - David Starner - 2001-02-02

There are Debian packages for KDE 2.1 in Debian - KDE just decided not to announce them, which is KDE's fault, not Debian's. The fact that Debian stable is fairly outdated is irrelevant, as most people run Debian testing or Debian unstable. I do wonder what you mean by decent XFree 4 packages - I'm running Debian with decent XFree 4 packages right now. They are no more 'developmental' than those released with any other distribution.

Re: As usual no debian support...Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is - Joshua - 2003-04-30

I agree. As far as I know, the stuff in Debian's "unstable" directory is basically the same as the stuff that other distributions put out. Debian just won't trust trust the new stuff until it's proven its stability.

Re: As usual no debian support...Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is - Joshua - 2003-04-30

Wow!! I can't believe I just replied to a post from almost three months ago!!

cd:/ support - CiAsA Boark - 2001-02-01

does anyone know how to get cd browsing support compiled into konqi? the release notes said that it now supports cd:/ to browse cds. typing cd:/ into the location bar of konqi makes it try to lookup cd:/ on realnames here is the more detailed changelog: http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelog2_0to2_1.html btw, does anyone know how to turn off realnames support, its annoying.

Re: cd:/ support - Thorsten Schnebeck - 2001-02-01

Try: audiocd:/ You need cdparanoia and a symbolic link /dev/cdrom helps

Re: cd:/ support - Bojan - 2001-02-02

For me this doesn't work either. I have cdparanoia and /dev/cdrom and I would really like to have this feature in my favourite browser.

Re: cd:/ support - Thorsten Schnebeck - 2001-02-03

Hmm... I don't use any distro-rpms. This is KDE2.1 compiled from CVS. But kcontrol has a new module: information->KDE-ioslaves Do you see "audiocd" ? BTW - this feature would be realy nice if noatun (or arts) are able to play audiostreams.

Re: cd:/ support - Bojan - 2001-02-05

Yes, you are right. I don't see the audiocd ioslave. I installed RPM for Redhat 7.0 and obviously there is no audiocd ioslave compiled in there. Has anyone got any idea, how to include this?

Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out - Henri - 2001-02-02

Congratulations. It's really a wonderful job, everything runs smoothly and amazingly fast. I didn't find any bug yet ! Just some very minor package flows (why does kdepim rpm _require_ pilot-link, i don't have any palm though i would like to or conflict between I18N-French and kdevelop rpms). I don't want to flame at all, but KDE is now much ahead of gnome which doesn't seem as robust and coherent. Again, thank you guys !

Instructions for Debian users - Ben Hall - 2001-02-02

Hey there, Deb packages have been available for days. As to the person claiming that Debian was the most out of date distro, (s)he obviously doesn't know what they're talking about. So, here are the instructions: add the lines to your /etc/apt/sources/list Debian Potato (Stable) deb http://kde.debian.net potato main crypto optional Debian Woody (Unstable) deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free In either case, once the line is added type: apt-get update && apt-get install task-kde task-kde-devel Wait a while for packages to DL and install, and poof! You've got KDE 2.1b2 (Woody is using 0128 builds at the moment.) Debian Woody is awesome, I've got KDE 2.1, XFree 4.0.2 and all sorts of other really current stuff. As a side bonus, it's only slightly less stable than other Linux distro's. For servers, use stable. Cheers, Ben

Re: Instructions for Debian users - Gary - 2002-02-02

I get "Couldn't find package task-kde". using Woody...

Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out - Carbon - 2001-02-04

In the release notes, it says that koffice is not included! Why is that? Although i realize that it is not yet up to the stability level of staroffice, it would still be nice to see an evaluation of where it is so far without having to use CVS.

Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out - Waldo Bastian - 2001-02-04

<p>Since 2.0 large parts of KOffice are being reworked and that will not be finished in time for 2.1.</p> <p> Cheers,<br> Waldo </p>

Re: KDE 2.1-Beta2 Is Out - Chris Adams - 2001-02-04

Ive installed the Mandrake RPM's, and everything works great, i'm really impressed... Apart from one thing... Ive read that you can type lan:/ or rlan:/ in konqueror and get a listing of all the samba machines on your network. when i type in lan:/ or rlan:/ , it trys to search for it on a search engine. Why doe these not work???? Help! Chris Adams

Where are kde-i18n archives? - Estevam Neto - 2001-02-04

I'd like to install the rpms of kde 2.1 made by RedHat (Conectiva just make of final versions...), but I need kde-i18n-pt_BR.

Re: Where are kde-i18n archives? - Estevam Neto - 2001-02-09

KDE 2.1 Beta 2 ftp://ftp.nl.linux.org/pub/conectiva/snapshot/conectiva/RPMS

Konqi screenshot - Jack the ripper - 2001-02-05

Why does the Konqi screenshot have spelling and grammar mistakes? In fact, the whole of KDE is full of such mistakes, run-together words (what the hell is a Webbrowser, I ask the author of the user's guide), and other broken English. Geez, if you can't write English well enough, just write the messages in your native language and get someone else to translate them.

lan:/ browsing - Chris Adams - 2001-02-05

Help! I cant make konqi work by putting in lan:/ It just trys to search for it with Google. I am using the Mandrake 7.2 binary rpms. At the moment, I am compiling kdenetwork using an SRPM, I was just wondering if there was an easier way. Chris Adams

Re: lan:/ browsing - Luc Cove - 2002-07-04

I'm in need of serious help. I'm a newbie to linux, and I just installed mandrake 8.2. What it is that I'm having a problem with is getting the lan settings correct. I can't seem to find any documentation on it, and when I look in the lan browsing configs, it looks about right to me. If anyone can give me a hand, please feel free to Email me. Much thanks. Covie

Where is kdenetwork package for RH 6.2? - Tom Corbin - 2001-02-06

The i386 packages are missing the kdenetwork packages, which means that kmail isn't available. The packages are there for RH 7. I can't seem to get the source rpm to compile, does anyone have a package I could use?