DEC
11
2001

Does Your Online Bank Support Konqueror?

Oliver Strutynski has a mission.
Frustrated by the fact that some online banks discriminate against
Konqueror, he has
announced
a website for promoting
Konqueror to banks. According to the site, "It is the purpose of
this page to collect a list of online banking sites that work with recent
versions of Konqueror or to present work-arounds for using online banking
sites that fail to load correctly on first try
".
If you do engage in advocacy with your bank, please keep in mind the
Linux Advocacy
Guidelines
(non-Linux'ers, filter the page through sed -e s'@Linux@MYOS@g', and it will address you too). Most countries heavily regulate their banks and thus banks have additional legal obligations and
liabilities in terms of security. This means that providing support for a particular browser may not necessarily be as simple as it would be for a different category of website; however, if enough customers request it . . . .

Comments

This is all and well if the problem is the bank, but if the problem is konqueror itself, and trouble reports are filed and seemingly ignored, pestering the bank will do little good.
_
/Bjorn.


By bjorn at Wed, 2001/12/12 - 6:00am

Your bug reports are not being ignored. Have patience! I'll bet your bugs will be fixed in KDE 3.


By not me at Wed, 2001/12/12 - 6:00am

Don't forget you can foul your bank by changing the 'User-Agent' Konqueror sends to your bank website.
Go in the settings menu -> Configure Konqueror and then choose the icon 'User-Agent'.
Works for me... :)


By Mickael at Wed, 2001/12/12 - 6:00am

This works for a number of sites (should be noted on the summary page), but the problem is that tweaking the UA string really perverts the idea of having a ua identifier in the first place: It makes it impossible to work around peculiarities in specific browsers and does not allow webmasters to generate reliable browser statistics.

This way Konqueror (and other alternative browsers) will never be able to get a relevant market share, just because nobody realises that people actually use these browsers.

So this is a work-around, but no solution!


By Oliver Strutynski at Wed, 2001/12/12 - 6:00am

No, the people who are perverting the idea of a UA string are the ones who are making their sites reject unknown browsers simply because they don't match known ones. They should at least give them a chance, with a warning. We're simply doing whatever we can to give Konqueror a chance at rendering these webpages.

Personally, I think the idea of a UA string is somewhat perverted in the first place, but that's a different discussion.


By not me at Fri, 2001/12/14 - 6:00am

The onlne banking at my bank (Wells Fargo) works very well with Konqueror.
The only problem I've had at all in Konqueror complaining that their SSL
cert being invalid (when it clearly is fine).


By Russ Steffen at Wed, 2001/12/12 - 6:00am

If you still get that message with KDE3 CVS/Beta, please file a bug report and I'll look into it asap. That code had to change thanks to braindead server designs and it hasn't gone through much serious testing. Anyways, better to be warned on a valid site, than not warned on an invalid site!


By George Staikos at Fri, 2001/12/14 - 6:00am

Yes my bank web site works with Konqueror 2.2.1
The URL is http://www.ibc.com
Thanks to all KDE and its affiliates for a great job.


By Ted Olaye at Wed, 2001/12/12 - 6:00am

I do online banking all the time with Konqueror at my Royal Bank.
Works beautiful!


By John Rockefeller at Wed, 2001/12/12 - 6:00am

Woo! Wells Fargo works, no problem!

I knew I loved that bank for some reason!

-Matt


By hifidel at Wed, 2001/12/12 - 6:00am

This is not a bank page but a page konq fuck up quite bad. I use kde2.2.1 I think. Might look better in newer but anyway ... make it work plz =)http://www.idg.se/idgse/default.asp


By Andreas at Wed, 2001/12/12 - 6:00am

Yup!! Seems to me a big CSS mess... never seen a worse rendered page under konq 2.2.2. :))
But I confide in KDE 3.0, of course!


By Andrea Cascio at Thu, 2001/12/13 - 6:00am

It's *much* better in KDE3, although there is still a problem: the bar that should be at the bottom is actually on the side.


By ac at Thu, 2001/12/13 - 6:00am

The Deutsche Bank 24 has always worked here, it uses a page with no Java, hardly any Javascript, very nice and clean.

https://meine.db24.de

They do seem to have some problem with certificates though at the moment (Konqueror complains, Mozilla complains, Netscape4 and Opera do NOT complain)


By Moritz Moeller-... at Wed, 2001/12/12 - 6:00am

Interesting. I get no warning there with 2.2.1 or HEAD. If you see this problem with KDE _other_than_ 2.2.2, please file a bug report and I'll look at it asap.


By George Staikos at Fri, 2001/12/14 - 6:00am

Hello,
I have been trying to access the Deutsche Bank web page for the last couple of weeks, but couldn't get through. I wonder if they have a new web site address: if anybody knows it, please let me know by sending a message to: daniyar@ifes.elcat.kg

Thank you


By Daniyar at Thu, 2002/12/12 - 6:00am

In the start page ( www.lineaabierta.com ) appears this :

"Netscape Navigator 2.00 o Microsoft Explorer 3.0.
Sense interpretació d instruccions "JavaScripts" no podrà entrar a la "Línia Oberta WEB" "

It means that , of course, you need netscape or explorer and activate javascript, but if you got active ssl3 it logins but i don't know if it works correctly.The page is a javascript page so i think that it doesn't works correctly maybe kde3.

Suse 7.1
kde 2.2.1


By rampxxxx at Wed, 2001/12/12 - 6:00am

CONEXSION


By JORGE DE JUAN B... at Wed, 2002/06/12 - 5:00am

There seems to be a big Lotto Scam useing your esteemed bank, or officials, in your bank as part of this.

Please let me know if you are aware of this fraudelent activity.

Many thanks


By Graham at Mon, 2008/07/28 - 5:00am

My online bank www.bankpoalim.co.il works with Konqueror, but only partially - one frame is shown, others are not, the message is "Invalid URL", URL is "javascript:"smth. Works with Mozilla & Netscape with no problem, both under Linux & Windows ( excluding some font misconfiguration under Linux, I believe it to be my problem ).


By Alex at Wed, 2001/12/12 - 6:00am

I use konqueror at http://abclnet.creditlyonnais.fr it works fine ! And even better than Mozilla ! (I can not login with Mozilla 0.9.6 due to javascript errors)


By Pierre SOUCHAY at Wed, 2001/12/12 - 6:00am

Comment faire pour consulter mon compte par internet. Merci de me répondre très rapidement, avant la fermeture des magasins.


By jauze at Sat, 2002/02/09 - 6:00am

je veut des renseignements sur votre banc .
merci .


By younnes at Mon, 2002/07/29 - 5:00am

Bonjours

Je sius Mr/MEDJDOUB Kamel titulaire de compte n°0000419174R clé 66 agence n°02800 banque n°30002 credit lyonnais 25 rue SAINT FERREOL MARSEILLE 13000

Je voudrais s'avoire si c'est possible de faire un transfaire d'argents de mon propre compte à un autre compte en Françe par internet.
en cas de possibilité qu'elle est la procédure la plus rapide en sachant que j'ai un code d'accés perssonel.

recevez,Madame,Monsieur,mes sincères salutations.


By MEDJDOUB Kamel at Tue, 2002/07/30 - 5:00am

I would like to know if it is possible to purchase a stuffed lion like the ones Lance Armstrong is awarded on the podium?

Thanks,

Deb


By Deb at Mon, 2003/07/28 - 5:00am

Did you ever find out how to purchase the stuffed lion?
Thanks


By E at Thu, 2005/07/28 - 5:00am

Yes, you can. Try ebay, search on credit lyonnais lion. Bring a big wallet!


By john allen at Tue, 2006/07/11 - 5:00am

I AM A SWEDISH THAT LIVES IN FRANCE AND HAVE CREDIT LMYONNAIS AS MY BANK. BUT I COULD NOT FIND THE INTERNETBANK ON THE ADRESS ABCLNET?
THANKFUL FOR REPLY LARS EJE LARSSON


By LARS EJE LARSSON at Wed, 2003/06/04 - 5:00am

veuillez recevoir ma confirmation de ma demande de virement de 7200e attends votre coup de fil a mon numero de tel 021415513


By guerroumi at Tue, 2005/06/21 - 5:00am

www.commbank.com.au/netbank
I think it has the javascript/java problem mentioned in someones earlier post.
it works with mozilla


By Tim at Wed, 2001/12/12 - 6:00am

Just tried Konqueror (KDE 2.2.2) and it works just fine in
their secure mode. The fonts and panels are slightly off
but ok. If we could just get email to import those pesky
addresses without problems...

Konqueror is more stable than Mozilla 0.96, Netscape 6.2
and Opera 6. Great work...

Ed


By Edward Rataj at Wed, 2001/12/12 - 6:00am

ASB in New Zealand works well. NZ was one of the first with online banking ( not a boast, nz is often a test case, we had nation wide eftpos (debit card system) before most countries. Server side, ASB and subsiduary BankDirect run on JADE, a Java-like(but db inclusive) object pascal based platform like system. JADE runs on AIX and (somewhat sadly) NT and is being ported to Linux as we speak. (not a plug, I don't work for jade ;)


By Patrick Gade at Thu, 2001/12/13 - 6:00am

ASB in New Zealand works well. NZ was one of the first with online banking ( not a boast, nz is often a test case, we had nation wide eftpos (debit card system) before most countries). Server side, ASB and subsiduary BankDirect run on JADE, a Java-like(but db inclusive) object pascal based platform like system. JADE runs on AIX and (somewhat sadly) NT and is being ported to Linux as we speak. (not a plug, I don't work for jade ;)

Website is www.asbbank.co.nz


By Patrick Gade at Thu, 2001/12/13 - 6:00am

Once you get past the invalid certificate dialog all functions seem to work fine with KDE 2.2.1

www.bankone.com


By mem16421 at Fri, 2001/12/14 - 6:00am

This works fine for me with 2.2.1 and HEAD. Do you mean 2.2.2? Please file a bug report if it's for sure 2.2.1 or HEAD and I"ll look into it asap. Don't bother filing a report against 2.2.2 though :)


By George Staikos at Fri, 2001/12/14 - 6:00am

Hello,
I'm glad someone has my very own problem.
I only use Konqueror for browsing, and I can enjoy most (not all) web sites, but I have a lot of problems with my bank: www.fineco.it.
With mozilla the web site runs fine.
The problems I have are:
- the site uses (at least) 2 frames, refreshing each one independently one from the other. konqueror opens 2 windows, one for a frame, one for the other, and I have to click in both to make things work!
- I continuosly get the error "the certificate is valid but does not appear to have been assigned to this server" asking confirmation before proceeding, so making the browsing of the site a real pain

Does anyone experiments my problems? I'm sorry I can't give you an url to test because the problems are in the private pages.
Does anyone have some work around for my problems?

Thanks and keep up the great work, konqueror and all KDE really rocks.
Alex

P.S.: I run KDE 2.2.2 on a red hat 7.2 box


By Alex Dusty at Sat, 2001/12/15 - 6:00am

Have always worked with konqueror, However the newest 2.2.2 update broke something in cookie handling (reported it some time ago), so now you have to clean out the old cookies for that site before you can log in again.
There is also still a problem with using a proxy for the https-sessions.


By Dag Nygren at Sun, 2001/12/16 - 6:00am

Have always worked with konqueror, However the newest 2.2.2 update broke something in cookie handling (reported it some time ago), so now you have to clean out the old cookies for that site before you can log in again.
There is also still a problem with using a proxy for the https-sessions.


By Dag Nygren at Sun, 2001/12/16 - 6:00am

I confirm this, older 2.2.1 worked fine, 2.2.2. doesn't. Mozilla does, but I don't
wan't to load it's widget set into memory, when I already have KDE and Qt loaded.


By Juha Tuomala at Mon, 2001/12/17 - 6:00am

Czech first online bank eBanka doesn't work with Konqueror. After my notification about compatibility between eBanka online system and Opera, Konqueror or Mozilla they added a browser check script and all what I can seenow is BadBrowser.html page. They support IE, Netscape and particulary some versions of Mozilla, because of the Mozilla is build on top of the Netscape ( :-( their words). Again, they answered me, that no support is planned for other browser then IE and Netscape. I don't understand this, they are 4 years on the electronic market and was the more progressive bank in the middle Europe in this area.


By Jiri Kaderavek at Mon, 2001/12/17 - 6:00am

This banks site (www.efirstbank.com) works with Konqueror.
I got Pay Pal site to work tto, I had to enable cookies.

Ciao
Nitman


By Nitman at Sun, 2003/05/11 - 5:00am

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