OCT
10
2003

KDE wins Linux Journal's Readers' Choice Award 2003

Linux Journal announced today the winners of the Ninth Annual Readers' Choice Awards. Although no real surprise, KDE continued its strong series since 1999 and won once again in the category "Favorite Desktop Environment". Thanks to all our users for using and voting for KDE.

Comments

XChat is cross-plattform too and has no GNOME dependencies in my installed version here. And I fail to see a "--enable-gnome" parameter or alike in its "configure". Of what consists an optional GNOME dependency, new features?


By Anonymous at Sat, 2003/10/11 - 5:00am

Hi,

indeed my point. The number doesn't matter at all.

I find so far:

new kwin -> big focus improvement (no more stealing of the focus)
new kontact (what you call Kroupware) -> very big desktop improvement, biggest in a long time for me
new kopete -> instant messaging that works (not that i use it, but deserves credits)
new kcontrol -> usability fixes without end, support for switching resolutions in X, better style support, droped obsolete theming, added a lot of nice things
new khtml -> better standards support and speed

I am using it (alpha2, konstruct-ed) for production on a home box and at work. The only regressions I have is that kwin focus management which has bugs to alpha2 still and that Konqueror won't authorize on a customer site with password. (Have to use Mozilla for that site now).

It feels like a whole new world. It deserves a major number anyway.

And of note regarding apps. Some commercial companies went over to use QT instead of KDE. I hope users demand KDE integration at some point in the future. Be that by QT supporting freedesktop.org where necessary or by plugin KDE into QT at runtime...

Yours, Kay


By Debian User at Sat, 2003/10/11 - 5:00am

Did you file a bugreport for the authentication problem? If not, please do. If so, which one?


By Waldo Bastian at Tue, 2003/10/14 - 5:00am

Paint programs are the little pain with linux. GIMP was nice but we saw very little improvement through the last few years. The GUI is outdated. I dOn't say I want windows style. I want it to be customized like it is possible with Kdevelop, SDI, mdi, ecc., we an use them if we want.

Tuxpaint is far superior to Kpaint :-)

I gues we need an easy Paintshop like KDE Frontend for GIMP. This has high priority for me. I would donate much money if I saw progress with it.


By Dirk Heinrichs at Sat, 2003/10/11 - 5:00am

Have a look at Krita in KOffice.

http://koffice.kde.org/krita/

It's still in the early stages, but I can use it to replace everything I used the GIMP for. Plus, its KDE intergrated and Python Scripting can be used (none of this perl crap ^_^).


By Chris Smith at Sat, 2003/10/11 - 5:00am

I geuss you were usign the GIMp for the wrong purpose, these programs have completely different functions.

I also don't think we should waste resources on an always outdated KDE front end to the GIMP.


By Alex at Sat, 2003/10/11 - 5:00am

The current GIMP versions which will lead to GIMP 2.0 scheduled for this year have many new features and improved GUI. And GIMP is still a GTK only application.


By Anonymous at Sat, 2003/10/11 - 5:00am

It's very easy to agree with those results and shouldn't come as a surprise that GNOME apps beat KDE ones hands down.

Kopete is still a joke. Evo is slower than kmail but so so much more useful in an enterprise environment. Moz may well be bloated but renders many many more pages better. It also handles tabs better, cookies MUCH better, blocks popups sensibly and I say all this as someone who uses konqueror anyway.

Roll on the 3.2 apps, but they've got some catching up to do. (and plaudits for best DE. KDE is very intuitive, fast and lovely)


By anon at Fri, 2003/10/10 - 5:00am

Mozilla is not a Gnome application...


By Murphy at Fri, 2003/10/10 - 5:00am

Evolution is not a GNOME application...


By Alex at Sat, 2003/10/11 - 5:00am

Wrong and right: It isn't released as part of GNOME releases but uses GNOME libraries.


By Anonymous at Sat, 2003/10/11 - 5:00am

Quite a few people think, if a program uses GTK, it is part of GNOME.


By Albert Liu at Sat, 2003/10/11 - 5:00am

many wrongs don't make a right


By Alex at Sat, 2003/10/11 - 5:00am

And this happens while there are examples of programs who decided to stay GTK-only (e.g. Gimp), switched back from GNOME to GTK only (like Pan) or even start to offer KDE file and print dialogs use as an option (Sodipodi).


By Anonymous at Sat, 2003/10/11 - 5:00am

/me wonders if we are going to start seeing major GTK/GNOME apps jump over the fence and join the Qt/KDE camp even if they continue to code in straight C.


By Anonymous at Sat, 2003/10/11 - 5:00am

No need to jump over the fence. Using KDE's print and filedialog would be a wonderful improvement for a non-QT/KDE app like e.g. the gimp...


By thomas at Sat, 2003/10/11 - 5:00am

On the other hand, many gnome-libs related functionality is being ported over to gtk. With gtk 2.4 and gnome 2.6, it'll be elimiated all together. gtk 2.4 will also have some optional dependencies on gnome related libraries. For example, the new file selector will use gnome-vfs if it's installed. Basically, in the future, it'll be gnome apps==gtk apps.


By fault at Sat, 2003/10/11 - 5:00am

> Basically, in the future, it'll be gnome apps==gtk apps.

I don't think that it will go so far, think of GConf, Orbit and Bonobo.


By Anonymous at Sat, 2003/10/11 - 5:00am

My Favorite Linux Game: Return To Castle Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory

disarm the dynamite!!


By ac at Sat, 2003/10/11 - 5:00am

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