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kdenonbeta Official Clean Up: Where will your code go?

Friday, 23 January 2004  |  Wbastian

kdenonbeta is KDE's source repository for code that is not ready yet to be included in KDE's beta releases. It can be considered a nursing ground for new software. Unfortunately not all software reaches adolescence. Below you find a list of programs that have been removed from kdenonbeta due to lack of development. If you are the author of a program in kdenonbeta that is still there after this cleanup, now is a good time to think about the future of your code.

You have a few options:

  • Your code is maintained and developed by you, relatively stable and you wish to maintain it further as part of a major KDE module.
    --> Todo: Write a proposal to kde-core-devel outlining why your code should become part of this KDE module.
  • Your code is maintained and developed by you, relatively stable and you wish to maintain it further and make your own releases.
    --> Todo: Contact Klas Kalass to discuss moving your code to kdeextragear.
  • Your code is no longer maintained and/or developed by you or anyone else.
    --> Todo: Contact sysadmin (AT) kde.org and ask for the removal of the code from kdenonbeta and/or do a "cvs remove -f" yourself.

The following programs have been removed from kdenonbeta already:

Name: columbo
Synopsis: Search client for network services

Name: gros Synopsis: Code from Chritophe Gros Notes: Contains Kas6, an astrolog application

Name: kautorun Synopsis: little tool that repeatedly checks a configurable device

Name: kcli Synopsis: library to parse CLI binary image (ECMA 335 standard)

Name: kcmodbc Synopsis: KDE Control Centre module for UnixODBC URL: http://www.unixodbc.org

Name: kcontrol Synopsis: KDE Control centre applets Notes: Contains for setting environment variables.

Name: kdao Synopsis: CD audio toc maker

Name: kdbbrowser Synopsis: A Database Browser using KDB See also: koffice/kexi, kdenonbeta/kdatabase, kdenonbeta/kdd, kdenonbeta/kdedb

Name: kdd Synopsis: KDE Database Display See also: koffice/kexi, kdenonbeta/kdatabase, kdenonbeta/kdbbrowser, kdenonbeta/kdd

Name: kdewizard Synopsis: KDE Configuration Wizard See also: kdebase/kstart

Name: keystone Synopsis: Allows you to remotely access the desktops of machines using the cross-platform VNC system. See also: kdenetwork/krfb, kdenetwork/krdc

Name: kio_napster Synopsis: kioslave for Napster

Name: kio_rdate Synopsis: kioslave for RFC868 time servers

Name: kio_sql Synopsis: kioslave for SQL databases Notes: Requires KDB (kdedb) headers and libraries See also: kdenonbeta/kdedb

Name: kio_vcd Synopsis: kioslave to read raw video data from a VCD or SVCD

Name: klinuxscsimanager Synopsis: add / remove SCSI devices from your system Note: Probably Linux specific

Name: knfsplugin Synopsis: KControl module for configuring a NFS server

Name: ksensor Synopsis: Application to view hardware sensor information via the lmsensors package URL: http://secure.netroedge.com/~lm78/

Name: ksimeserv Synopsis: Service for simple messages

Name: kstockticker Synopsis: Stock quote ticker application See also: kdenonbeta/ticker

Name: kvalgrind Synopsis: KDE frontend for Valgrind

Name: kvdvd Synopsis: possibly a KDE Control Centre module and kioslave for DVD

Name: libsearch Synopsis: Columbo (search framework) Plugin See also: kdenonbeta/columbo

Name: mathopd Synopsis: lightweight, non-forking HTTP server

Name: NetMgr Synopsis: client/server based manager for dialup internet connection See also: kdenonbeta/NetManager2

Name: reagan Synopsis: KDE front-end for Ogle, a DVD player URL: http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/groups/dvd/

Name: transcode Synopsis: possibly an aRts plugin for transcode URL: http://www.theorie.physik.uni-goettingen.de/~ostreich/transcode

Comments:

kdeblackhole ? - Totoro - 2004-01-23

What happens when a program is removed from kdenonbeta ? Is there still any way for somebody who might be interesting in starting a similar project to find the sources of a kdenonbeta program ?

Re: kdeblackhole ? - Troy Unrau - 2004-01-23

Yes -- you just have to pull kdenonbeta from a CVS tag that is earlier than the removal date. No problems. Unless of course Zogje is playing Eraser, in which case you no longer exist, and have never existed. :P Errr -- if anyone's bored -- read Zogje's cvs comments as he removed those packages -- most hilarious (you can find them on the kde-cvs mailing list). EG: [06:15:14] waba * kdenonbeta/kdewizard/ (22 files in 3 dirs): a-ka ka-da-bra *poof* away it is [06:30:55] waba * kdenonbeta/kio_rdate/ (7 files): kio_rdate could have told you that today is: Fri Jan 23 13:30:09 CET 2004 Which is 3 years and 16 days after the day that this program was imported and abandonded. [06:39:07] waba * kdenonbeta/kautorun/ (17 files): kautodelete [06:53:17] waba * kdenonbeta/kdao/ (150 files in 11 dirs): kdao, kiao, ciao And so on -- errr -- well, it was funny at the time ... :) --Troy Unrau (need a timesink? read my blog at http://tblog.ath.cx/troy)

Re: kdeblackhole ? - Nicolas Goutte - 2004-01-23

It is only remove with cvs tools, not from the CVS repository. So it is still in the Attic directory. (If there is no tag, you can always try with a date.) Have a nice day!

Re: kdeblackhole ? - Waldo Bastian - 2004-01-23

Most programs are moved to the kdeblackhole cvs module. Recently removed programs will still be available from kdenonbeta if you know how to fetch older revisions, but they will be removed from kdenonbeta entirely within a few weeks time.

I wonder... - Roberto Alsina - 2004-01-23

..if this mathopd directory is because of that personal webserver thingie I once wrote, that used mathopd as its backend. You know you are getting old if you are not sure you wrote a project!

kcmodbc - ac - 2004-01-23

would be very nice to have in the Control Center! /smackmyself for sucking big time in c++

Too bad - ac - 2004-01-23

kio_vcd would have been cool. I'm surprised KValgrind is gone.

Re: Too bad - Roberto Alsina - 2004-01-23

I think you are supposed to use KCachegrind: http://kcachegrind.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/show.cgi

Re: Too bad - physos - 2004-01-23

KValgrind is in KDevelop3 IIRC

kcontrol - Oschi - 2004-01-23

Is there already something to set environment variables, I mean a UI?? Damn, I'm using Linux now for five years but I still wouldn't know how to do it...

Re: kcontrol - Nicolas Goutte - 2004-01-23

That is something that will probably never exist, as environement variables depend on a process and are given to the children of the process. So if you have a UI application, it could only change its environment (not any other) and this environment will not exist anymore when the application ends. If the enviroment variables are user-specific there are mostly in the BAsh starting files: ~/.profile or ~/bashrc The Bash syntax is: export VARIABLE=value (export makes that the variable is given to new children of this process too.) Have a nice day!

Re: kcontrol - Shrei - 2004-01-24

You already gave the answer, it can be added to ~/bashrc or something, or it can be at /etc with the proper auth, editing that files from the gui and throwing some kind of molotov bomb to the screen and voila, done, all done.

Re: kcontrol - David Faure - 2004-01-25

Or we could save those env. vars to some file that startkde reads/sources. This would make the env. var available to all of KDE programs, without the need for any shell-specific hacks.