KDE-CVS-Digest for July 9, 2004

Saturday, 10 July 2004  |  Dkite

In this week's KDE CVS-Digest: Query designer in Kexi now has the ability to switch between visual and SQL mode. KPresenter improves page effects. Krita adds computing histograms. amaroK adds support for streaming over any supported KIO protocol. Many bugfixes in aKregator, Kopete and Umbrello.

Comments:

[OT] Quanta CVS? - ac - 2004-07-10

Does anybody know where Quanta CVS is now? CVSup only gives me empty directories, which is confirmed by http://webcvs.kde.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/quanta/ .

Re: [OT] Quanta CVS? - Anonymous - 2004-07-10

kdewebdev/quanta

Re: [OT] Quanta CVS? - ac - 2004-07-11

Thanks.

khtml issues - Thomas - 2004-07-10

I'd like to get some websites working in konqu, which aren't working atm (3.3beta), like parts of www.vodafone.de (kjs hangs) www.map24.de (kde java classes incomplete, applet fails to load) www.photo-druck.de (kjs hangs) www.telefonbuch.de (mean dhtml stuff) this annoying issue, where flash seems to stay always on top, even if it should be hidden e.g. by the dynamic parts of a site. (ducking and heading over to b.k.o)

Re: khtml issues - garaged - 2004-07-10

I can see all those sites correctly, I think, no problem with all of them What version of kde are you using ? im using CVS from a week ago

Re: khtml issues - Mikhail Capone - 2004-07-10

Can you see this one correctly? ( http://lefti.blogspot.com/ ) It's okay with Gecko, so I'm not sure if it's a problem with the website/blogger template or Konq.

Re: khtml issues - Evil Homer - 2004-07-10

The W3C Validator (http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Flefti.blogspot.com%2F) says the page has 587 errors. So maybe you can notify the author of the website to correct the errors.

Re: khtml issues - fprog - 2004-07-11

Seems like the site is using HTML 4.x, but has a DOCTYPE of XHTML, so basically, it's using poor XHTML extension. The thing is that Konqueror is "correct", but the site author is using a web browser that ignores DocType info and does it best to render, so the author doesn't or care if it doesn't work on non-IE browser or non-netscape/mozilla.

Re: khtml issues - superstoned - 2004-07-10

wel, I know the khtml devs are very busy, and dont really feal like fixing broken webpages (in almost all cases, its the pagebuilders' mistake, and just because it worked on the broken IE, they often dont want to fix it "because it works (only in IE, but thats enough for us)". you should file a complait to them, its their mistake...). but if you really want it to get fixed, you should find out what is wrong (eg what code is causing the problem) and generally to make it as easy as possible to fix it. then they might do so. this is NOT meant to be rude or insensitive, its just that there are a few billion webpages out there, with all sorts of wrong code, which just happens to work on IE cuz that browser is full of mistakes too/because that browser can make up broken code quite well (depends on vieuwpoint huh?) and it is really impossible to fix em all. the ppl from macintosh working on khtml said the same, some time ago - they aren't gonna fix it either - that whould take far too much work, which they prefer to spend on making the browser compliant with the latest real W3C standards, like CSS2.

Re: khtml issues - Thomas - 2004-07-10

> but if you really want it to get fixed, you should find out what is wrong > (eg what code is causing the problem) and generally to make it as easy as > possible to fix it. then they might do so. Well I tried to hunt it down a bit to file a bug report. Front-pages of all the above mentioned sites are o.k. (exept for telefonbuch.de). It's mostly some functionality of the site which is done using javascript and screws up kjs...

Re: khtml issues - Niek - 2004-07-10

I tested with Konqi from CVS 20040706. All sites are working perfect, except the map24 one. But map24 has big problems in Firefox too.

Re: khtml issues - Jean-François Lemaire - 2004-07-11

"I tested with Konqi from CVS 20040706. All sites are working perfect, except the map24 one. But map24 has big problems in Firefox too." That one is O.K. here (at least the maps are displaying correctly and I can zoom and pan into them, didn't look any further). Konqueror 3.2.3, SUSE 9.1, java2-jre-1.4.2-129. JFL

Re: khtml issues - Derek Kite - 2004-07-11

Blackdown-1.4.2-rc1 crashes on the applet. That is with a recent cvs build, gentoo. Derek

Re: khtml issues - Niek - 2004-07-12

$ java-config -v java version "1.5.0-beta2" Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0-beta2-b51) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0-beta2-b51, mixed mode) Also a Gentoo CVS build of Konqi. Can you test it with Firefox too?

LYOD? - AC - 2004-07-10

What's that LYOD stuff? A replacement for libICE?

Re: LYOD? - Sad Eagle - 2004-07-10

Yes.

Re: LYOD? - AC - 2004-07-12

What's wrong with libICE? Lack of a maintainer? Why start anew? Will LYOD be obselete if KDE4 uses DCOP over DBUS?

WHAT-WG - A non-moose - 2004-07-11

BTW, does anyone know if the Konqi/KHTML people plan on joining WHAT-WG (http://www.whatwg.org/)?

Re: WHAT-WG - anon - 2004-07-11

Some of the safari guys seem involved, and they represent khtml-dom.

Re: WHAT-WG - Shift - 2004-07-11

Konqueror team should participate to this dicussion. Safari team doesn't represent khtml but Apple. I am not sure that Apple will be the only one to anticipate the future of khtml. Moreover khtml and khtml-safari are really differents (different base, different features,...). Patch take a long time to be included in both of them. If Apple wanted to work on khtml, it would be a better idea to merge CVS.

Mozilla style for KDE - Alex - 2004-07-12

Anybody knows if there is a mozilla-style for KDE/qt?

Re: Mozilla style for KDE - Evan "JabberWokky" E. - 2004-07-12

If you mean a style that unifies Mozilla/Firefox with KDE, do a search for Mozilla in the description in kde-look.org (click search on the left hand side, then type Mozilla into the *second* field, and hit search). Plastik for Mozilla/Firefox is available, plus something that makes Mozilla use KDE Open/Save dialogs.

Re: Mozilla style for KDE - Alex - 2004-07-16

Hm, I was actually thinking of a style that makes KDE look like Mozilla. :-) The Mozille modern style is pretty good actually. Thanks for your help anyway, I'll try those.