KDE CVS-Digest for April 1, 2005

Saturday, 2 April 2005 | Dkite

KSVG2 can now do animations. Kexi gains read/write form support. digiKam adds a photo restoration plugin. New releases of Kile, amaroK and Kubuntu. Get ready for the move to Subversion!

Comments:

Bitkeeper, Bitkeeper make me a bit! - Evan "JabberWokky" E. - 2005-04-02

Shouldn't that be Bitkeeper-Digest? ;) Actually, I suppose the next release will be the SVN-Digest.

Re: Bitkeeper, Bitkeeper make me a bit! - charles - 2005-04-02

I thought the BitKeeper stuff was to do with "April Fools", I'm I wrong? Come on, let the KDE programmers/coders enlighten us here.

Re: Bitkeeper, Bitkeeper make me a bit! - Albert Astals Cid - 2005-04-02

Of course it was "April Fools", we are moving to subversion

Re: Bitkeeper, Bitkeeper make me a bit! - Evan "JabberWokky" E. - 2005-04-02

Totally April Fools - thus the emoticon. It's a world wide web - April first is still going on in some places as I type this (and was for me when I added the above comment). Subversion is the new system. Which makes me pleased, as I use and love svn.

Re: Bitkeeper, Bitkeeper make me a bit! - Brandybuck - 2005-04-04

So let me ask, since you're a Subversion lover: what GUI frontends are there for Subversion? Is there a way to get Cervisia to handle it? The use of a GUI for certain functions is too convenient to give up without some sort of struggle.

Re: Bitkeeper, Bitkeeper make me a bit! - Evan "JabberWokky" E. - 2005-04-05

Sorry, I just use the CLI tools. I have an alias ss='svn status', and just do commits by hand. That said, I seem to recall that Cervisia has support for Subversion in the CVS version... err... the repository version. The news popped in on one of the KDE blogs that a developer had gotten it working. I checked with 3.4, and it doesn't seem to support svn in that release, so I assume it will be in the next release... or you could try the version in the repository.

Re: Bitkeeper, Bitkeeper make me a bit! - PLJ - 2005-04-06

Firefox, Konqueror, Internet Explorer, w3m, lynx, etc. Once you activated and configured the svn module in apache that is...

great digest this week - me - 2005-04-02

I readed the digest just to discover that we're reaching perfection! Great modifies, great improvements, many speed gains around.. thanks a lot! And Derek: great selection of the best stuff that happened this week. Really had a good time reading it ^_^ (good move to link the svn tutorial too. go svn!)

kdelibs/pics/crystalsvg - Anonymous - 2005-04-02

Less is more for 16x16. Discussed with ken and david. There is still room for improvements. http://cvs-digest.org/?diff&file=kdelibs/pics/crystalsvg/cr16-action-up.png,v&version=1.7 --- Err... I'm sure this is a work-in-progress, right? Black, boring and ugly icons do not belong to kde, right? Right? :(

Re: kdelibs/pics/crystalsvg - ac - 2005-04-02

> Black, boring and ugly icons do not belong to kde, right? you're right! that is called gnome.

Re: kdelibs/pics/crystalsvg - konqi - 2005-04-02

GNOME icons are better than that. But putting that aside, I agree! Please don't make them all black.. it's not 'crystal' anymore :/

Re: kdelibs/pics/crystalsvg - konqi - 2005-04-02

woohoo! twice the fun!

Re: kdelibs/pics/crystalsvg - ac - 2005-04-03

> GNOME icons are better than that. Well, even Windows 3.11 icons are better than those. Please, revert those changes...

Re: kdelibs/pics/crystalsvg - ac - 2005-04-03

Not quite right, gnome is brown on khaki mixed with grey. Proof: just have a peek at gnome.org

Re: kdelibs/pics/crystalsvg - bangert - 2005-04-03

stop whining - do stuff instead :) have you seen those in context? i am sure they look a lot better when seen in context... these icons may not be perfect - but in the long run this ("Less is more") is a step in the right direction

Re: kdelibs/pics/crystalsvg - Torsten Rahn - 2005-04-04

It's just experimental work in progress -- not worth a flame-thread.

Re: kdelibs/pics/crystalsvg - dc - 2005-04-04

We always hear that excuse about KDE art. It's just a work in progress. We still end up with many bad icons replacing formerly good icons and ugly things like the out of place K logo in Kicker.

Re: kdelibs/pics/crystalsvg - uddw - 2005-04-04

What's wrong with the K-logo?

Re: kdelibs/pics/crystalsvg - dc - 2005-04-04

It doesn't fit in the Crystal icon theme.

Re: kdelibs/pics/crystalsvg - Morty - 2005-04-04

Then make a crystal version of it.

Re: kdelibs/pics/crystalsvg - konqi - 2005-04-04

The new K-logo is nice though.. :P

amazing digikam! - Pat - 2005-04-02

it's amazing how these guyz are adding new plugins every damn week! keep up the good work, great app! Pat

Re: amazing digikam! - Gilles Caulier - 2005-04-02

a new one is under construction in my computer for Inpainting a photograph area (using CImg library). Coming soon... Gilles Caulier

Re: amazing digikam! - Boudewijn Rempt - 2005-04-02

That's a nice library isn't it? It was the easiest Krita plugin I ever did.

Re: amazing digikam! - Gilles Caulier - 2005-04-02

Boudewijn, i have implemented Save/Restore filter settings in Photograph Restoration digiKam image editor plugin. It's use the _same_ parameters like in your Krita CImg plugin. This will be cool if you can provide a same implementation in krita plugin using the same text settings format. Take a look in Restoration dialog plugin implementation here : http://docs.kde.org/en/HEAD/kdeextragear-3/digikamimageplugins/restoration.html I have too contacted the CImg Gimp plugin author for the same goal. Provide a common file format between digiKam/Krita/Gimp is important for users. Too, i have contacted the French CImg author for to have a detailled description of all CImg filter settings. He have send to me too a new implementation about Restoration filter. It's More speed... I have started a new Restoration plugin handbook. Take a look here (not yet updated in web page): http://docs.kde.org/en/HEAD/kdeextragear-3/digikamimageplugins/restoration.html Gilles Caulier

Re: amazing digikam! - Boudewijn - 2005-04-02

What an excellent idea -- I never thought of storing the parameters in a file, but I will certainly try to code support for that format into the Krita plugin before the KOffice freeze. I also notice you've added multi-threading support in your Digikam filter -- I'll carefully study your code and see whether I can do the same. I've already gone through Krita and marked the places where I'll need to add threading.

Re: amazing digikam! - Gilles Caulier - 2005-04-04

Boudewijn, Save/Load Photograph Restoration settings implementation updated in CVS. Please take a look... A nice day Gilles Caulier

Re: amazing digikam! - Boudewijn Rempt - 2005-04-05

I will -- thanks!

Re: amazing digikam! - Pat - 2005-04-03

it would be nice to implement the resizing function too from http://www.greyc.ensicaen.fr/~dtschump/greycstoration/demo.html it looks really great. Pat

Re: amazing digikam! - Gilles Caulier - 2005-04-03

Yes, it's planned by me. Let's me some days to do it (:=))) Gilles Caulier

Re: amazing digikam! - Gilles Caulier - 2005-04-05

digiKam image editor plugin 'Photograph Inpainting' done in CVS. Any previews can be seen at this url : http://digikam3rdparty.free.fr/Inpainting/ Any feedback welcome... Gilles Caulier

KSVG2 DOM manipulation? - Rob - 2005-04-02

Ah, KSVG2 updates. Great. I have yet to check it out, but I hope KSVG2 will be ready in time for KDE4 and that it will allow applications to access and modify the SVG DOM directly (not through ECMA) and then re-render. (I really need a proper SVG library in KDE for Atlantik. My development branch stalled as soon as I required SVG for more dynamic game boards because of some new server features. The old custom board code in Atlantik was crap and KSVG1 lacked support for such DOM manipulations. The result being a very frustrated developer who took a break from KDE development alltogether.)

Re: KSVG2 DOM manipulation? - Anonymous - 2005-04-02

Wait a minute. You're that Rob? I thought you were just a troll who recently surfaced. =) You're the Rob who disappeared off the face of the planet? The Olsen twins Rob? The Kirsten Dunst Rob? The George Bush Rob? Oh my... I thought something bad had got to you.

Re: KSVG2 DOM manipulation? - Rob - 2005-04-04

I've moved on to the Cali twins, but that's me! Glad to see my good old buddy Anonymous is still around! Nothing bad happened: in fact, so many good things happened that I couldn't be arsed to get my DSL running again after the server harddrive broke down. And I still can't be, although I will put some of my stuff on-line again soon at regular IPP.

Re: KSVG2 DOM manipulation? - Rob Buis - 2005-04-02

Hi Rob, Yes, this time the dom manipulating should work. We can't blame anyone else this time, since all support code is written by ourselves ;) Cheers, Rob B.

Will the real Rob please step forward? - Matthias - 2005-04-03

... and I thought all KDE developers were named Matthias ...

Re: KSVG2 DOM manipulation? - Rob - 2005-04-05

Ah, great. Will have to check out kdenonbeta I suppose. Do you think KSVG2 will make KDE4?

Re: KSVG2 DOM manipulation? - Quintesse - 2005-04-04

But the website seems quite out of date? No mention either about ksvg2. So what's the difference with 1? :-) Just curious.

Binding screenshots with PrintScreen - MandrakeUser - 2005-04-02

Folks, for professional reasons (i.e. I have no option) I am using windows xp at work now. It sucks as compared to KDE. But I disgress. The one thing that I found more than useful is the following key bindings: * [PrintScreen] copies a full-screen screenshot to the clipboard * [Alt]+[PrintScreen] same thing, but it captures the active window instead. Then, you just [ctrl]+[v] in you mail editor or word processor and drop the screenshot. I can't tell you how much easier your life gets with these bindings. Are there similar bindings in KDE-3.4 ? I am running 3.2.3 (Mandrake's most recent stable) Thanks and Cheers!

Re: Binding screenshots with PrintScreen - ac - 2005-04-02

I suggest you to visit http://bugs.kde.org/ and file your wish there as "wishlist"... :-)

Re: Binding screenshots with PrintScreen - MandrakeUser - 2005-04-03

Thanks for the post :-) I definitely will, but I wanted to check real quick if the functionality is available or being implemented, since my kde version is a bit outdated ... I'll wait a couple days and see if someone posts in this thread, and open a wish list if it makes sense ...

Re: Binding screenshots with PrintScreen - Pilaf - 2005-04-03

Yes, it is in KDE 3.4, and combined with klipper it's even better than in Windows (it keeps record of all the screen caps you took). I found this out just today.

Re: Binding screenshots with PrintScreen - MandrakeUser - 2005-04-03

Well, that really cool, thanks a lot Pilaf! And thanks to all the others who posted in this thread.

Re: Binding screenshots with PrintScreen - charles - 2005-04-03

Those bindings work as you have described in KDE 3.4 and they did in the KDE version prior to 3.4.

Re: Binding screenshots with PrintScreen - Zippy - 2005-04-03

In KDE 3.4, [Alt]+[PrintScreen] will take a screenshot of the window which you can then paste into a new KMail message (it will actually end up as an attachment). Just plain old [PrintScreen] didn't do anything for me.

Re: Binding screenshots with PrintScreen - Dolio - 2005-04-03

On my machine, at least, 'Desktop Screenshot' is bound to Ctrl+PrintScreen by default. You could easily change that to just PrintScreen, though.

Re: Binding screenshots with PrintScreen - superstoned - 2005-04-04

yes, and afaik, in kde 3.5 you can past the image in the message itself, instead of as an attachment :D

Qt-Mozilla - ac - 2005-04-03

It started soooo promising, but now as Zack has a new employer it might be definitely dead... or will TT want to sponsor it really?

Re: Qt-Mozilla - Anonymous - 2005-04-03

Don't you think that Lars and Zack now being together all day long will rather speed it up again?

Re: Qt-Mozilla - aleXXX - 2005-04-03

I have the impression that Zack started a lot of very cool things but didn't finish a lot of them.... Alex

Re: Qt-Mozilla - ac - 2005-04-03

Zack goes for stuff that really matters. Luckily isn't that sort of 'proud person' that starts a project and goes on and on defending it even if it's proven a poor project. And then he is locked up to that project. Qt is good stuff, and working on bleeding edge xfree is good too :-) About qt-mozilla.. I love khtml.

Re: Qt-Mozilla - Anonymous - 2005-04-03

Getting Mozilla/Qt is not poor but does matter for the business desktop.

Re: Qt-Mozilla - ac - 2005-04-03

> About qt-mozilla.. I love khtml. Me too, and I use it 95%+ in KDE. But, Firefox being KDE friendly will help Firefox, and KDE... Enterprises may want to use Firefox for some reasons (e.g. their users had Firefox, Thunderbird and OO in windows, and they would migrate to Linux, so the users would find the same applications), and if KDE copes well (File & Print dialogs, kdewallet), the better! Btw, Konqueror is faster and much more versatile, that's why I use it. Users migrating from windows might use Fx for web, and konq for filebrowsing, until they notice that konq is a great browser aswell. So it's good when Fx and konq are great. First to help users with a nicely into KDE intergrated browser. If they see the poor gtk file+print-dialogs they might not be amused I fear. Fx needs Qt.

Re: Qt-Mozilla - Pat - 2005-04-03

don''t need to bitch here but people usually call Firefox FF, not Fx.

Re: Qt-Mozilla - David House - 2005-05-01

> people usually call Firefox FF, not Fx. No they don't (or maybe they do, but it's wrong). See The Firefox FAQ [1]. [1]: http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/faq#spell-abbreviate

Re: Qt-Mozilla - Anonymous - 2005-04-04

"Zack goes for stuff that really matters. Luckily isn't that sort of 'proud person' that starts a project and goes on and on defending it even if it's proven a poor project. And then he is locked up to that project." That's a good one. Are you quoting this from his job resume? =)

Re: Qt-Mozilla - Morty - 2005-04-03

They may even attract the interest of new developers, I think some of their other co-workers may have some skills with Qt.

Re: Qt-Mozilla - Anonymous - 2005-04-03

Some skills? If their co-workers don't have ultimate Qt skills then who else? :-)

Re: Qt-Mozilla - Hans - 2005-04-03

The people who send patches to TT? ;-)