KDE 3.5.2 Released
Today, the KDE Project announces the release of the K Desktop Environment 3.5.2. This second update release in the KDE 3.5 series brings an improved user experience and stability by focusing exclusively on translations and bug fixes. See the Changelog for the major changes while the info page lists the ways to download with packages currently available for Arch Linux, Kubuntu, Pardus, Red Hat and SuSE. Kubuntu have made a live CD featuring KDE 3.5.2.
Some highlights of the fixes and improvements:
- Numerous updates to the KHTML engine used by KDE and Konqueror. Javascript handling is improved and now works with phpBB and certain wikis. Konqueror no longer shows scrollbars in the Acid2 test, making it the second browser to pass.
- Improvements in clipboard handling through the use of the XFixes extension
- Lots of changes to the website editor Quanta Plus
The translation teams have managed to make this release the best translated KDE release ever. KDE 3.5.2 is available in more than 60 languages and dialects, outperforming all other desktops, including several commercial offerings.
For ongoing work on future versions of KDE 3.5, the feature freeze has recently been weakened, allowing minor and well-tested new features to go into the 3.5 branch and thus be released with the next KDE 3.5 update.
The next major release will be KDE 4. A tech-preview for KDE 4 is preliminarily scheduled for the 10th anniversary of KDE in October this year.
Comments:
Thanks - fast_rizwaan - 2006-03-28
waiting for it...
Re: Thanks - reihal - 2006-03-28
Great stuff! I wonder how many more versions before 4?
Re: Thanks - superstoned - 2006-03-28
none, tough they relaxed the feature freeze criteria for 3.5.x a little, so you'll see a little new functionality and a few refinements. but for the real goodies you'll have to wait for the 4.0 release.
platt - gerd - 2006-03-28
Linux op platt sounds good. But do distributions support low saxon out of the box?
Re: platt - AC - 2006-03-31
most of them supply all kde languages, including low saxon. And those that don't: the translation packages are platform independent, so you can install them yourself..
Slackware - JC - 2006-03-28
Slackware packages are uploading. I made some extra packages.
about KHTML and JS - Patcito - 2006-03-28
what is meant by " Javascript handling is improved and now works with phpBB and certain wikis"? does this mean that we can now use WYSIWYG editors in gmail, bloggers and the like, I'm not familiar with phpbb editor?
Re: about KHTML and JS - superstoned - 2006-03-28
well, they might work better, but of course they won't have fixed all sites - after all, the only way you can be sure about compatibility with konqi is if the site keeps to standards (but they can't, as it then won't work in IE. and of course konqi might still have bugs left...) or has been tested on konqi.
Re: about KHTML and JS - SadEagle - 2006-03-28
No. This is about editor buttons that insert markup into a textarea (e.g. you click bold, and it marks the selected text with [b] or * or whatever). Supporting so-called "JavaScript" editors is considerably more involved, and basically requires implementation of an entire editor in the browser core.
Re: about KHTML and JS - cm - 2006-03-28
There's hope, but not for 3.5.x: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48302
Re: about KHTML and JS - Patcito - 2006-03-29
thanx for the info. I hope we'll get designmode for KDE4, it will be yet another reason to switch to KDE4 :) I'm aware though that it must be a lot of complicated and not so fun work to do even if if it comes from webcore. keep up the good work! we really appreciate it.
broken links ("all SVN changes") - Carsten Pfeiffer - 2006-03-28
All those "all SVN changes" links on http://kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_5_1to3_5_2.php are broken.
Re: broken links ("all SVN changes") - Eckhart Wörner - 2006-03-29
Should be fixed now. Thanks for hinting at it. Eckhart
don't forget - tom - 2006-03-28
Don't forget to support your favourite project(s) with a donation. Mine went to the web editor of the year :-)
Konqui / Java applet - Kanwar - 2006-03-29
I still am unable to get my netbanking java applet load successfully in Konqueror. It works perfectly in Firefox. In konqueror, it *almost* loads and then report 'IOException something in a separate window'. Anyone have any idea about this or has faced similar error? I am running kubuntu, btw.
Re: Konqui / Java applet - anonymous - 2006-03-29
Your question is only relevant here if it's a regression in 3.5.2. Did it work in previous versions? I think you should ask in mailing lists, not here.
Re: Konqui / Java applet - koos - 2006-03-29
Better file a bug report w/ output of console log. Btw. have you tried the 'Use KIO' option (needs a restart of the java server)
Strange bugs - Sam the man - 2006-03-29
For a couple of months now I've experienced two really annoying bugs that I've tried to debug without success. 1) I cannot configure all of kicker in kcontrol. I error that several kicker kcm modules wasn't found 2) I cannot start konqueror browser from panel. When I try to exec the kfmclient command from shell it says that it couldn't find service konqueror.desktop This is on a FC 4 & 5 machine. I've rebuild kde several times and did a clean reinstall of FC 4 and then rebuilt kde again.
Re: Strange bugs - anoninuss - 2006-03-29
Change distribution.
Re: Strange bugs - superstoned - 2006-03-29
its not really a nice thing to say, but you're right. this are bugs in Fedora Core, not KDE.
Re: Strange bugs - Sam the man - 2006-03-29
How are you so sure it is a bug in FC?
Re: Strange bugs - cl - 2006-03-29
because other distributions don't have these bugs
Re: Strange bugs - me - 2006-03-30
I'm sorry, but that doesn't automatically make it a Fedora bug. Maybe Fedora is using it in a way that other distributions aren't and that invokes a bug. Unfortunately this attitude is all too prevalent on the KDE team. "It must be a distribution bug..." I'm disappointed in the stability of Konqueror. After years of using it, it still doesn't handle a large number of websites properly. Firefox is generally much better in this regard. I do love KDE and it is my one and only desktop environment. But I think there is some work to be done before the Konqueror part of things is up to par, as far as I am concerned. I eagerly await 3.52.
Re: Strange bugs - cm - 2006-03-30
> I'm sorry, but that doesn't automatically make it a Fedora bug. Maybe Fedora > is using it in a way that other distributions aren't and that invokes a bug. You cannot expect every developer to have all distros out there around to be able to reproduce a bug in his application. IMNSHO the proper flow of a bug report if there is even the *slightest* suspicion that it may be distro-related is from the bug reporter to the distro. The packagers know best what they did to the original source packages (some apply their own set of patches!) and if they come to the conclusion that it is a bug in the original source then they can report it upstream with valuable additional information that helps squash the bug.
Re: Strange bugs - cl - 2006-03-30
> Unfortunately this attitude is all too prevalent on the KDE team Who said that I'm part of the KDE team?
Re: Strange bugs - AC - 2006-03-31
"Maybe Fedora is using it in a way that other distributions aren't and that invokes a bug". OK, let's check them: 1) I cannot configure all of kicker in kcontrol. I error that several kicker kcm modules wasn't found -> probably meaning that the .desktop files of the kcm modules of kicker are screwed up in FC. There is only one way to invoke those modules: the way that is defined by freedesktop.org specs. So, if a module does not start on fedora, but does start on other distributions, it's a bug in fedora, not KDE. 2) I cannot start konqueror browser from panel. When I try to exec the kfmclient command from shell it says that it couldn't find service konqueror.desktop -> more evidence that the .desktop files of FC are screwed up: apperently the file konqueror.desktop is not where it should be. If this problem is not present on other distributions, then KDE did not forget to put it there, but FC did. So again: bug in FC.
Re: Strange bugs - Sam the man - 2006-03-31
I've built everything myself from source. I've done this a couple of years. "make install" is suppose to put stuff in the right folders, right? :=)
Re: Strange bugs - James Richard Tyrer - 2006-03-31
Actually, he can just change his KDE RPMs. http://kde-redhat.sourceforge.net/
Re: Strange bugs - Sam the man - 2006-03-31
I built everything myself from source as I've done the last years...
Re: Strange bugs - Anonymous - 2006-03-29
if you want to do clean uninstallation and install the latest KDE 3.5.2, try the Tomahawk Desktop (www.tomahawkcomputers.com).
Re: Strange bugs - ac - 2006-03-29
Stop spamming
Re: Strange bugs - James Richard Tyrer - 2006-04-01
These are not bugs in KDE since I don't have these problems. I have Linux (mostly) From Scratch with some of the most basic files FC-3 RPMs which I never get around to updating to FC-4. I find it best to stay one release behind FC (i.e. they release 5 and I upgrade to 4 :-)). So, this might simply be an installation issue or it might be something which is FC 4 or 5 specific. So, I suggest that you please post the problems to the "kde-linux" list and we will try to figure out what is causing the problems.
Re: Strange bugs - timwetter - 2006-04-07
sorry for my poor english i my self have kde 3.5.2 - build with konstruct - on fc3 running - and it works fine. <-> but in fc4 and also in fc5 with the same way of compalation (by konstruct) is not useable -> kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing makes mistakes the start menu looks uncomplete .. icons missing and so on. I hope there will be a solution.
Re: Strange bugs - Attila Erdelyi - 2006-04-10
Uninstall the "redhat-menus". For Fedora Core5 just execute rpm -e --nodeps redhat-menus-6.7.5-1 Your K-Menu should be OK and of course you can start the great konqueror again!
Re: Strange bugs - timwetter - 2006-05-28
O.K. I see - all problems are gone and it works fine. Thanks for the solving tipp. I hope rest of system is gonna working fine to - yah. You are welcomme aerdeliy
Bug - Configure - KDesktop no longer shows display - Jessup - 2006-03-29
Thank you so much KDE crew! I love KDE. One bug I've noticed and has also been noticed in unbuntuforums is that the display panel in 'Configure - KDesktop' no longer shows. If possible please provide a quick fix to this. Here is the thread on unbuntu forums where people have mentioned this as well: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=150849&page=4 Also post #13 on that same thread (page 2) someone else noticed it, too. Happy to let you know about this. Thanks again. JJ
Re: Bug - Configure - KDesktop no longer shows display - Carsten Niehaus - 2006-03-29
This is probably a bug in (k)ubuntu (well, or a feature because they think removing it makes sense, who knows). If it is specific to (k)ubuntu you have to report it as a bug in launchpad. KDE can't do much about it.
Re: Bug - Configure - KDesktop no longer shows dis - boemer - 2006-03-29
I'm not sure if we are talking about the same problem... But in Kubuntu 5.10 I also noticed this KDesktop being missing. They have there own Control Center, with half of the options I'm used to missing. Hopefully it will get better... At least it isn't a 3.5.2 specific problem, it's a kubuntu problem...
Re: Bug - Configure - KDesktop no longer shows dis - superstoned - 2006-03-29
they have a simplified control panel. if you want the full control panel, start kcontrol from the commandline/alt-f2/katapult or add the kcontrol menu to kicker.
Re: Bug - Configure - KDesktop no longer shows dis - reihal - 2006-03-29
"if you want the full control panel, start kcontrol from the commandline/alt-f2/katapult or add the kcontrol menu to kicker." Why can´t I do that in the Control Panel? Gnomethinking, huh? (shudder)
Re: Bug - Configure - KDesktop no longer shows dis - Andras Mantia - 2006-03-29
> Why can´t I do that in the Control Panel? Gnomethinking, huh? (shudder) The KDE developers cannot answer this question.
Re: Bug - Configure - KDesktop no longer shows dis - superstoned - 2006-04-01
"Why can´t I do that in the Control Panel? Gnomethinking, huh? (shudder)" well, i don't really know. tough i use kubuntu, i have my own panel setup (2 panels) and i have the kcontrol menu in there. i don't use the kubuntu system settings that much.
"40+ Suggestions for Better Desktop" - Anonymous - 2006-03-29
Hey everybody, it's not really on-topic, but this is really, REALLY interesting: http://chabada.sk/better-desktop/
Re: "40+ Suggestions for Better Desktop" - anonymous - 2006-03-29
How far off topic can you get? A list of problems with the design of the Gnome desktop. sheesh. Or is it an ironic post?
Re: "40+ Suggestions for Better Desktop" - Hermann - 2006-03-29
There are still some interesting issues witch have to be solved in any DE Environment. Its about Gnome OK, but the problems are equal in many cases. I am glad to find Sites like this.
Re: "40+ Suggestions for Better Desktop" - Anonymous - 2006-03-29
What? KDE doesn't have properties dialog boxes? Progress bars? Media players? Just because there's 'Gnome' in the title doesn't mean it might not be an interesting read.
Re: "40+ Suggestions for Better Desktop" - AC - 2006-03-31
Interesting read, yes, Interesting for kde, no. Interesting reads for kde show flaws in kde, and not in gnome :)
Re: "40+ Suggestions for Better Desktop" - Anonymous - 2006-03-31
There are suggestions too, not only flaws
Re: "40+ Suggestions for Better Desktop" - superstoned - 2006-04-01
most of the things they mention are no problem in KDE. some are, some just don't apply. and some are just simple stupid (imho) or have nothing to do with desktop environments.
xgl - ac - 2006-03-29
Due to the relaxed feature-freeze, will there be support for the fancy stuff e.g. gnome achieves through the use of compiz, gnome-window-decorator ? Before KDE4 I mean :-)
Re: xgl - cl - 2006-03-29
Sorry, no. The relaxed feature-freeze means that only well tested, stable and already available features might become part of KDE 3.5.3.
Re: xgl - Anonymous - 2006-03-29
You don't need KDE changes, it works the same with compiz and gnome-window-decorator.
Re: xgl - Anonymous - 2006-05-08
Well, yes, you will need KDE changes if you want things to work properly . While it does basically work, currently there are display problems, artifacts, and quirks that make it unusable when using that decorator and KDE applications like kicker (system tray icons disappear, taskbar doesn't work with virtual desktops) and the like. Needing the entire GNOME core system and all its dependencies just to run gnome-window-decorator - as well as losing all kwin settings like application specific settings, shortcuts, etc - is also very unappealing.
Re: xgl - superstoned - 2006-04-01
gnome didn't do this anyway, its mostly desktop-agnostic and the gnome-window-decorator solution sucks (throw away a full windowmanager, and write a new one, just because you created ONE new feature - XGL). they will probably integrate this in gnome, but that'll take at least one version, most likely 2. by then, KDE 4 is coming, and it'll support it too i guess.
Another great update! - LB - 2006-03-29
Thanks a lot!! khtml is getting better and better and ...
Speed in 3.5.2 on Gentoo - Mark Dickie - 2006-03-30
Is it just me or is 5.3.2 many times quicker than 3.5.1 was on Gentoo. Now this may just be me having updated my libs or using a newer compiler or something but everything seems about a quarter quicker than before. Thats even if I ignore the KHTML enhancements. I talking about pure desktop respose times. Well done to all involved.
Re: Speed in 3.5.2 on Gentoo - Andre Somers - 2006-03-31
I have the same feeling on my Gentoo box here. I'm glad I invested the time to emerge it (well, started up emerge and left for work, in fact)!
Re: Speed in 3.5.2 on Gentoo - mark - 2006-04-02
yep2! i've noticed it too.. . the response time seems a bit quicker.
relaxed feature-freeze! :-) - ac - 2006-03-30
Very nice decision! I am impressed by a simple change that turns out to make konqueror much nicer: The removal of the inner frame in the html view :-) Good work kde devs ! :-) (Now if we could get rid of the flickering scrollbars when you switch between tabs I could dump firefox)
Re: relaxed feature-freeze! :-) - nome - 2006-03-30
Yeah... There are still the extensions though... Bugmenot/filtersetupdater/adblock/noscript makes for pretty nice browsing.
acid2 test - pinky - 2006-03-31
<i>Numerous updates to the KHTML engine used by KDE and Konqueror. Javascript handling is improved and now works with phpBB and certain wikis. Konqueror no longer shows scrollbars in the Acid2 test, making it the second browser to pass.</i> that's right, but with the mouse i can still scroll the browser like before with the scrollbars. So i think it's still not 100% right...
Re: acid2 test - cm - 2006-03-31
> that's right, but with the mouse i can still scroll the browser like before with the scrollbars. So i think it's still not 100% right... From http://www.webstandards.org/action/acid2/guide/ : "If the Acid2 page is scrolled, the scalp will stay fixed in place, becoming unstuck from the rest of the face, which will scroll." Doesn't that mean that being able to scroll is not an error and that it's normal that the image breaks if scrolled?
Re: acid2 test - superstoned - 2006-04-01
yep, you're right. konqi does the right thing.
Re: acid2 test - pinky - 2006-04-01
but if it should be scrolled why konqueror should show the scrollbars? >"If the Acid2 page is scrolled, the scalp will stay fixed in place, becoming unstuck from the rest of the face, which will scroll." here i see another confusion, not only the scalp stays if i scroll but only a part from the middle.
Re: acid2 test - pinky - 2006-04-01
sorry this "but if it should be scrolled why konqueror should show the scrollbars?" should obviously mean: but if it should be scrolled why konqueror doesn't show the scrollbars?
Bug 116562 - James Richard Tyrer - 2006-04-01
My thanks to who ever fixed this. Now I can upgrade to KDE-3.5
no more admin mode on kcontrol modules - mark - 2006-04-01
i don't know if this is only specifig to my distro, mine is suse 9.3. i recently upgraded to kde 3.5.2. while everything went well on the transtition, i've noticed that modules in kcontrol that require root privileges will fail to ask you for a root password. meaning that the dialog will no long show up. it will instead give you that index page that shows the list of modules under a group after hitting the administrator mode button. the modules under System Administration, like Login Manager is one example. and all modules under Yast2 w/c will require you root password. :O the error it seems to give is this: QLayout "unnamed" added to QVBox "m_body", which already has a layout kdesu: Unknown option '--n'. kdesu: Use --help to get a list of available command line options.
Re: no more admin mode on kcontrol modules - mark - 2006-04-03
here's something i did to resolve the situation above. after i backed-up the necessary binary files, i extracted & copied older binaries of KDESU & KDESUD, particularly from KDE version 3.4.0-28 (from my SUSE 9.3 installer), to /opt/kde3/bin. ran KCONTROL and now i am able to use that 'administrator button' again! :D happy me!
Re: no more admin mode on kcontrol modules - Roger L Harford - 2006-04-04
This worked fine on my setup, identical to yours. Hope someone from SuSE is monitoring these posts. I tried to fill out a bug report on Novells mess of a site ( SuSE support) that used to be so easy to navigate, but couldn't figure out how to do it. Everything you click seems to be an endless loop.
Re: no more admin mode on kcontrol modules - peter grilli - 2006-04-06
this work for me also :) thanks. (i extracted & copied older binaries of KDESU & KDESUD from kde 3.5.1)
Re: no more admin mode on kcontrol modules - tekwyzrd - 2006-04-10
Thanks for the tip. I hope the KDE devs caught this. Replacement of KDESU & KDESUD from KDE v3.5.2 with the ones from KDE v3.5.1 worked here as well. Admin functions in KDE Control Center are again asking for the password as they should.
Re: no more admin mode on kcontrol modules - Hjogi - 2006-04-07
where I could find KDESU & KDESUD. I have the DVD package of opensuse 10.0 but I can't find those packages. Thanks for support Hjogi
Re: no more admin mode on kcontrol modules - Hjogi - 2006-04-08
I have find them here: SuSE 10.X ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.5.2/SuSE/x86_64/10.0/kdebase3-3.5.2-2.x86_64.rpm SuSE 10.X ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.5.2/SuSE/ix86/10.0/kdebase3-3.5.2-2.i586.rpm SuSE 10.X ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/Attic/3.5-rc1/SuSE/x86_64/10.0/kdebase3-3.5.0-1.x86_64.rpm SuSE 10.X ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/Attic/3.5-rc1/SuSE/ix86/10.0/kdebase3-3.5.0-1.i586.rpm SuSE 10.X ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/Attic/3.5-beta2/SuSE/x86_64/10.0/kdebase3-3.4.92-1.x86_64.rpm SuSE 10.X ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/Attic/3.5-beta2/SuSE/ix86/10.0/kdebase3-3.4.92-1.i586.rpm OpenSuSE ftp.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-stable/inst-source/suse/x86_64/kdebase3-3.4.2-26.x86_64.rpm OpenSuSE ftp.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-stable/inst-source/suse/i586/kdebase3-3.4.2-26.i586.rpm
Re: no more admin mode on kcontrol modules - Anonymous - 2006-04-11
SUSE has put up a new kdebase3.rpm in supplementary/ to fix this problem.
Re: no more admin mode on kcontrol modules - Hjogi - 2006-04-11
could you send me the link
Re: no more admin mode on kcontrol modules - Anonymous - 2006-04-11
http://www.novell.com/linux/download/linuks/
Re: no more admin mode on kcontrol modules - NuclearPeon - 2008-09-02
I think I have found a solution to this issue. First off, I'm convinced that the issue is created when a user runs "sudo kcontrol" in the terminal, as it is meant to be run via the user. I got this fixed by reinstalling kcontrol. sudo apt-get clean (You want to remove old traces of kcontrol) sudo apt-get install --reinstall kcontrol (will reinstall from repos) Afterwards, administrator mode should work. Cheers!