KDE Commit-Digest for 14th May 2006

Monday, 15 May 2006  |  Dallen

In this week's KDE Commit-Digest: release polishing for amaroK 1.4. New sounds for KTuberling. KDE 4 changes include the proposed kdepimlibs module is created. New SVG icon engine based on QsvgEngine. New capabilities added to Solid. Applications with simple audio needs start to migrate to Phonon.

Comments:

Phonon Rocks! - Captain Phonon - 2006-05-14

.... nuff said!

Re: Phonon Rocks! - superstoned - 2006-05-14

It sure does. Looks like porting apps to phonon is cool these days ;-)

"polishing for amaroK 1.4" - Dima - 2006-05-14

Will the bug 110137 ever be fixed? "xine skips songs in playlist when using random" Amarok is a great player... But skipping songs completely at random is unacceptable, in my opinion. (And marking the bug "RESOLVED" as "WORKSFORME" doesn't help, either.)

Re: "polishing for amaroK 1.4" - AC - 2006-05-14

well, works fine for me :o) no problems with amarok 1.4 and xine. I had some xine errors with previous builds of amarok 1.4, but not with the current one.

small typo - Erik - 2006-05-14

Hi, the following typo happened in today's digest: "Dirk Mueller committed changes in /trunk/KDE/kdelibse:" Note the 'e' at the end. This keeps the diff viewer from working correctly. Regards, Erik

open source or free software? - Patcito - 2006-05-14

When I visit the phonon (http://phonon.kde.org/)and solid (http://solid.kde.org/) web site I can read on the bottom: <KDE Icon> ...This is an open source project then when I click on the KDE Icon (http://www.kde.org/) I get "KDE is a powerful Free Software graphical desktop environment..." It would be great to have some kind of consistency don't you think?

Re: open source or free software? - Moritz Moeller-Herrmann - 2006-05-15

All free software is open source (no the other way around), so I fail to see an inconsitency.

Re: open source or free software? - Evan "JabberWokky" E. - 2006-05-15

Aren't a few things not Free as in GNU? I think some of the artwork is released under more open (less "sharing required") licenses so that commercial apps can use them. I may be wrong with KDE3, but I'm sure that at one point there were bits that were licensed under more "public domain-ish" licenses like Artistic or BSD.

Re: open source or free software? - mikeyd - 2006-05-15

Those licenses are definitely free software - read RMS' 4 freedoms again.

Re: open source or free software? - Lee - 2006-05-16

No. GNU won't even use the term Open Source. They're different in common use, even if originally intended to mean the same thing. Bruce Perens, who co-invented the term open source, has also asked people to stop using it.

Thanks for the digest! :-) - koral - 2006-05-15

Thanks Danny! I couldn't imagine all that good stuff going on if not reading your digest. Thanks a lot!!!!

taglib? - Marco Krohn - 2006-05-15

From the amaroK release polishing: "Tagging support for all major audio formats (OGG, MP3, MP4, FLAC and RM)" Is amaroK using "taglib" or is that homebrew?

Re: taglib? - ac - 2006-05-15

It's using taglib, which has added support for plugins. amarok handles mp4/mp4/aac, rm/rma and wma through homebrew taglib plugins.

Re: taglib? - Marco Krohn - 2006-05-15

thanks for the quick reply, that sounds wonderful. Also the new amaroK features sound great and look visually appealing - thanks a lot!

Wiki - Marco Krohn - 2006-05-15

Just visited the wiki pages of KOffice and amaroK. http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=koffice2roadmap http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/What's_New_in_1.4 Can't KOffice wiki not use the same beautiful style as Amarok? I know that both projects use different wiki software (amarok seems to use mediawiki, which is the base for wikepedia) and KOffice (tiki?). However, porting a couple of pages (i.e. using a different syntax) is not too hard and IMHO worth it (in this case count me in as a helping hand). BTW thanks Danny for the KDE commit digest and Inge for his PR for Koffice!

Re: Wiki - Cyrille Berger - 2006-05-15

well koffice uses the kde wiki which is indeed a tikiwiki. And I don't think there will be a change to mediawiki in the future, the admin of the kde's wiki is also a tikiwiki dev ;)

Re: Wiki - MK - 2006-05-15

Like the amarok guys koffice could use any other wiki ... and setting up a new mediawiki is pretty easy these days (though making it as nice as the amarok's one will probably take a bit longer).

Re: Wiki - Boudewijn Rempt - 2006-05-15

Sure we could. But this is just a tool for developers to coordinate. There's no reason to prettify it, and hence no reason to spend even a little time on changing wiki's.

Re: Wiki - ac - 2006-05-15

The request to switch KDE to mediawiki has been brought up many times. Basically, it's unlikely to happen. Personally, I prefer mediawiki since the syntax is cleaner and it tends to look prettier, but the current maintainer of the Kde-Wiki, Luci, is also a tikiwiki dev so the odds of switching are slim.

SVG Icon - am - 2006-05-15

Does this mean we can use SMIL Animations in Icons for KDE 4? :-)

Re: SVG Icon - Lee - 2006-05-16

That would be horrible :) Animations for selected icons might be nice, but I'd hate to see the all my file icons animating! I guess it could be done well, but the coordination it would take, in terms of timing the animations and matching colors etc., for a whole (unfixed) set of icons that can be added to by third parties would be pretty tough to get right.

Sorting bug - Andre - 2006-05-15

I have a problem with the Kfiledialogue which probably relates to the file sorting algorith. The Cursors "jumps". It is an old bug and it esp. occurs when I have folders which long filenames e.g. podcasts. I thought it was fixed because it is so obvious but I just installed KDE 3.5.1 for SuSe 10.1 and I wondered why it is still there. So I ask you, was this bug fixed in a later version or is it still in?

Re: Sorting bug - me - 2006-05-16

I'm experiencing this also, using 3.5.2 on Suse 10.0.

New HiColor icons? - James Richard Tyrer - 2006-05-15

I get a 404 when trying to view my new icons :-( when I try to view them here: http://commit-digest.org/issues/2006-05-14/moreinfo/538392/#visual

Re: New HiColor icons? - AC - 2006-05-16

Correct, the directory 'pics' does not exist in SVN

Re: New HiColor icons? - James Richard Tyrer - 2006-05-17

That is not the way SVN works! The directory exists at Revision 538392, and it is still there. If you doubt this, please look: http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdeartwork/pics/?rev=538392 What I am pointing out is that there is a bug somewhere: http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdeartwork/pics/hicolor/hi22-action-tab_breakoff.png?r1=538391&view=markup Gives 404. But, you get the image if you use the correct URLs. E.G.: http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdeartwork/pics/hicolor/hi22-action-tab_breakoff.png?rev=538392&view=markup