Some highlights from this week's KDE Commit-Digest (all in one page):
Kopete supports MSN http protocol.
amaroK adds support for media:/ urls.
Speedups in Krita and aKregator.
Work continues on Quanta plugin for KDevelop.
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Some highlights from this week's KDE Commit-Digest (all in one page):
Kopete supports MSN http protocol.
amaroK adds support for media:/ urls.
Speedups in Krita and aKregator.
Work continues on Quanta plugin for KDevelop.
Comments
Never do this please, you can have descriptive names in the menus, but why should there only be one kdemediapalyer? And if another program becomes the best kde solution and is included in KDE by default, should we change its name to kdemediaplayer?
KDE, as you should well realize, is not the first time non descriptive names have been used for objects in every day life.
Even your suggestion of Nero would only be descriptive to perhaps learned individuals who know that Nero actually did burn Rome (Rome in Italy) and see the pun. That is hardly helpful to the (possibly less than) average user.
This naming scheme also isn't limited to KDE in the computing world, you have Firefox, Konqueror, Opera to name some web browsers. You have Excel, Outlook, Quicktime etc... Despite this I will agree that some applications may follow your desires already, Openoffice Writer, Math, Draw, Calc etc... and you already have many k* applications such as KGet, Konversation, KView, KPDF, KColorChooser, but as has been mentioned what do you name another colour chooser which is maybe better, KColorChooser2 ? How confusing would that be ?
In any case do you drive your F*RedneckTransportingTruck or Ford F150 ? I think calling it an F150 is in everyone's best interest. Even the extremely good marketing people at a Japanese company such as... Toyota... have the Avalon/Aventis. Although Avalon was an Island visited by King Arthur it hardly describes a 4 wheeled moving vehicle. And as far as I know Aventis doesn't mean anything although it may resemble some words such as the verb advento(to approach), Aventinus(hills near Rome) or even ventus(wind).
So really the naming scheme we have had for quite some time, naming things with numbers, after people, animals, plants, objects, invented words, etc... has worked well and will continue to.
After all from the position of a developer, if you are too lazy to read a description, you don't belong using my software. Natural selection may retake its course.
You're trolling, arent' you?
Now just strip the 'k's from the names and you end up with something reasonable ;-)
and newbies they just know these words: "song(s)", "video", "mail", "letter", "picture", "cartoon", "document", "internet", and more human names.
Yesterday, I saw my one of my friends wishing to hear a song on My KDE 3.4.1 desktop. I had my konsole opened. just went out for a min. And here's what he typed:
1. songs - he wants to listen to songs
2. video - he wants to view some videos
3. picture - to see some family photos
4. internet - to browse internet.
But unfortunately, KDE is not HUMAN Desktop Environment. KDE/Unix can't understand humans.
I thought why not have a script+kommander application which will show a Wizard/Dialog with options like when he typed "songs" and pressed enter:
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Hi there, it seems that you want to listen songs
What would you like to do (click on it or press
respective number)
1. Play a song... // again a dialog / application (amarok?)appears
2. Search for a song...
3. Record a Song... (from radio, tv, microphone, etc.)
4. Edit a song...
5. Good Bye
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Here Amarok is a good application which can find, filter a song. If such a dialog appears, even a computer illiterate HUMAN could use KDE.
a bash script + kommander script will work wonder for newbies. just my 2 cents for Human users.
that sounds like waht the developers are trying to do with plasma and ALI you should check it out it sounds like they know that problem and are trying to solve it.
url?
Plasma is more a concept to integrate the three permant planes (desktop, panel, on-screen display layer) into one unified solution.
http://plasma.bddf.ca/
What is bddf.ca? The company behind Plasma?
simply the hosting company, i guess. plasma is (check the website) fully developed by the KDE community.
Normal non-Unix endusers don't type commands into shells.
They use GUI lauch methods, for example application menus or clicking on files in the file manager.
If you think shells should understand those concepts as well, go complain to the shell developers.
that's right, normal desktop users don't use konsole much. A desktop shortcut or Plasma links would be good.
Konsole is just a way of running a shell which is certainly not part of kde. Why didn't he just click the menu button in the bottom left, look through and figure out he wanted multimedia, and then click (again after some looking through) Music Player (JuK), ignoring the part in brackets? That's what people I've introduced to kde seem to do. KDE is human-friendly, it's just the unix shell that isn't. Newbies won't be using the shell. I have a suspicion you're a troll.
>Why didn't he just click the menu button in the bottom left, look through and figure out he wanted multimedia, and then click (again after some looking through) Music Player (JuK), ignoring the part in brackets?
cool down dude, my friend never saw KDE at the first place. And he is not a nerd. did you read, "I had my konsole opened. just went out for a min."?
btw the 'K' blue icon does not mean anything to a new person. Only you and me know that it is the "Menu" button. Do you think that is human friendly? Try getting someone who've never used KDE+GNU/Linux (and non windows user) and see his reaction in front of your KDE.
Perhaps an animated 'K' button with *sparkle* animation every few seconds could attract a newbie's attention leading to kmenu and then to other tasks.
I read it, but I wouldn't go typing in a random program to try and do something, and I can't imagine anyone else would either. If it had been kword rather than konsole would you be making the same complaint?
The K icon is in exactly the same place as the start menu on windows, and there's a tooltip that says "click here to start applications". Perhaps some text on the button would be a bit friendlier, but it would take up a lot more space. The bottom left is a fairly obvious first place to start, it's the first of the row of buttons, and the buttons there are clearly part of the DE rather than one application. I think it's a pretty obvious first button to click.
1. songs - he wants to listen to songs
-> he could also have typed this:
music (wants to listen to music)
track (wants to play a track)
mp3 (wants to play mp3-files)
2. video - he wants to view some videos
-> he could also have typed this:
film (wants to see a film)
cartoon (wants to see a cartoon)
bambi (wants to see Disney's Bambi)
3. picture - to see some family photos
-> he could also have typed this:
photo
image
photos
images
etc. etc..
4. internet - to browse internet.
-> he could also have typed this:
ie
website
www.kde.org
google
surfing
Anyway, it is crazy to just type random commands if you want to do something
Better is to add icons to your desktop with the text [picture] [internet] [songs] [films]
A simple way to do that is using a file hierarchie:
my documents ->
- my movies
- my music
- my photo's
etc.
That's how my mom's pc works, if she wants to listen to some music, she clicks on the button 'music', and amaroK starts :)
This isn't going to work in Konsole without a major AI application.
However, I point out that on my system if you click that house in the upper left corner of the screen, that a browser window opens that has icons for:
Music
Video
Photos
And you already have a browser window open.
IMHO, this is the way to do it.
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JRT
kommander documentation:
http://kommander.kdewebdev.org/docs/kmdr-basics.html