KDE 3.1rc6: The Final Candidate?

KDE 3.1rc6, which most likely will be the final KDE 3.1 release candidate (where have I heard that before?), is now
available for
download
. It incorporates all of the
security fixes from the security audit that delayed the release
of KDE 3.1
. KDE 3.1 is scheduled for packaging on January 13th, so
your mission, if you choose to accept it, is to run this release through
its paces to find any show-stoppers. To help compile it you might check
out Konstruct, a build system
which helps you to install KDE releases - it has been updated today for
the rc6 release. While its compiling you might hop
over to the draft
KDE 3.1 Requirements
page and notify me of any omissions or mistakes.

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Comments

by Andreas (not verified)

...
> /usr/include/png.h:324:18: zlib.h: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
...
Look like your missing the zlib headers. Install the zlib-devel package and you should be going. ( Or check your include paths if already installed )

by lemonite (not verified)

Install zlib.

by Charles Hixson (not verified)

But the README needs to be patched:

I doesn't tell you how to start. I looked all over for a configure file... there were several Makefile-s, but without reading each one, one doesn't know where to start.

So, Proprosed addition to the README (To be added right before AFTER INSTALLATION):

GETTING STARTED
===============
Be sure that you have a live internet connection.
cd to the ...konstruct/meta directory.
Then issue the "make install" command.

by Ed Moyse (not verified)

I second this propocal. I worked it out eventually, but it could be a lot clearer!

Ed

by Vincent (not verified)

Hi,

I have always the same problem with konstruct after:
cd kde/kdebase
make install

--06:12:41-- http://download.kde.org/unstable/kde-3.1-rc6/src/do-not-fail-fast-malloc...
=> `download/do-not-fail-fast-malloc.diff'
Résolution de download.kde.org... complété.
Connexion vers download.kde.org[131.246.103.200]:80...connecté.
requête HTTP transmise, en attente de la réponse...302 Found
Location: http://ftp.du.se/pub/mirrors/kde/unstable/kde-3.1-rc6/src/do-not-fail-fa... [suivant]
--06:12:41-- http://ftp.du.se/pub/mirrors/kde/unstable/kde-3.1-rc6/src/do-not-fail-fa...
=> `download/do-not-fail-fast-malloc.diff'
Résolution de ftp.du.se... complété.
Connexion vers ftp.du.se[130.243.32.22]:80...connecté.
requête HTTP transmise, en attente de la réponse...404 Not Found
06:12:42 ERREUR 404: Not Found.

make[2]: *** [http//download.kde.org/unstable/kde-3.1-rc6/src/do-not-fail-fast-malloc.diff] Erreur 1
make[2]: Quitte le répertoire `/mnt/win_e/konstruct/kde/kdelibs'
*** GAR GAR GAR! Failed to download download/do-not-fail-fast-malloc.diff! GAR GAR GAR! ***
make[1]: *** [download/do-not-fail-fast-malloc.diff] Erreur 1
make[1]: Quitte le répertoire `/mnt/win_e/konstruct/kde/kdelibs'
make: *** [dep-../../kde/kdelibs] Erreur 2

by Anonymous (not verified)

You have an incomplete copy of Konstruct or broke it yourself like this guy: http://dot.kde.org/1041714974/1041937909/

by standsolid (not verified)

i didn't follow the bugs in rc5 ... too disappointed in the multiple final RCs... what were the showstoppers to release another candidate?

by JC (not verified)

It was the securities fixes after the source code audit of RC5

I guess, if everything is ok, next week RC6 will become final.

by Jonnathan (not verified)

Great, yeahhh, if you could't found any bugs that means kde 3.1 will be great, wonder, super.

You must feel the beaty side of our lifes, get out the darkness of our soul, you aren't installing a MS stuff.

Think about !!

8+D

by Paul (not verified)

I have to say personally I am very surprised at how quickly they have managed to undertake and complete such a massive task. It seems some people have forgotten that the team identified a security flaw throughout the kde source tree, they have also aggresively tackled all showstopper and grave bugs, and have bought many new features to the environment we love, and finally that they are largely a volunteer team.

All things considered I am downright 'bloody' impressed. This is the sort of professionalism and committment that you simply do not get anywhere else.

KDE Rules and is Second to NONE !!

Open Source will change and indeed is changing the World !!

A huge unabashed thank you and mega kudos to all members of the KDE team.

Paul

P.S To those KDE developers who are sponsored or salaried, I do not distinguish in my respect for your efforts, skills etc..

by Lightning (not verified)

KDE 3.0 was released on april 3rd last year, KDE 3.1 should have been released middle november, so they had 7.5 months planned for this version. Now the final 3.1 will only arrive middle january: 2 months behind schedule, or more than 25% late on the original schedule.... who's fast here?
If m$ releases a new windows version so far behind schedule, we all laugh at them...
So.... shouldn't we make fun of the KDE dever's now??? Or should we allow such mistakes in open source development? Can it be late because it is free???

by Anonymous (not verified)

> 2 months behind schedule, or more than 25% late on the original schedule.

Isn't that the usual delay for most big projects? Better be in this segment than in the xx% who fails.

> who's fast here?

Microsoft releases one or more versions of their Windows GUI every year?

> If m$ releases a new windows version so far behind schedule, we all laugh at them.

m$ keeps it schedule and if it's for the prize of bugginess. Is that better and what you want?

by Lightning (not verified)

> Isn't that the usual delay for most big projects? Better be in this segment than in >the xx% who fails.
So hurray, if everyone else makes mistakes, we should do it too?

> m$ keeps it schedule and if it's for the prize of bugginess. Is that better and what >you want?
KDE has no bugs??? Please take a look at bugs.kde.org...
If we should wait till all these are solved, we can only hope we live long enough to see KDE 3.1 in the next century.

I'm not saying that KDE is bad, it is a common problem of all software, but 'hats off' is a little to euphoric in my opinion. There are still bugs, things that other programs or environments do better. So KDE is good, but not superior to others, and 2 months overdue isn't that fantastic.

by CoreWarrior (not verified)

Man,

Let yourself be happy just a little. When you were a kid the icecream cone was always too small wasn't it?

Core

by Bridged13B (not verified)

The reason for such a big delay is because of the holiday season. They decided to wait instead of rushing it out the door. They could have easily released this sooner but they decided to wait because most people would be enjoying the holidays. They also wanted to make sure binaries were made and tested before this release.

by nusuth (not verified)

You obviously forgot how longer than expected it took to get windows 95, windows 2000 and windows xp out of the door. XP was not too late as a windows release, but it is also "the release that will merge nt and 9x lines with an nt kernel", which was supposed to be out back in 99!

by Lightning (not verified)

Windows is of course well a lot more then a GUI and some apps...
I don't say it's good that windows is so late, open source just isn't better.
And concerning kernel changes... the merging of 9x and nt to the xp kernel was a giant operation, which resulted in a superior but expensive OS. At least, MS tries to change there kernel, while linux still isn't able to use plug and play devices as they should be used... hardware support still is very meager and some very ordinary configurations still don't work.
Recently I tried a cdrom drive of LG, but it did not work with RH8.0 and MDK9.0, although... who would guess it... windows 98 could use it without any troubles. My zip drive mysteriously stopped working under linux when I put it in another computer (it takes 3 minutes to get past it during booting!!!), and win98 uses it without any extra drivers or so and withou any troubles...

As for KDE, konqueror isn't as good as IE and why can't kmail use background pics in mails, while outlook express can???
Where is this superiority???

And why, if all this is so good and superior to windows, keeps everyone paying for windows while there is this fantastic free alternative?

by Moritz Moeller-... (not verified)

Linux does support many devices, has almost perfect plug and play, does now finally offer excellent hotplugging support (My digicam works out of the SuSE-8.1 box).

Linux does in fact support much more architectures and strange stuff than windowsXP. In fact I deleted my MS windows, when after an upgrade from win95 to win98 my old sound card wouldn't work anymore.
Of course some hardware works better in WindowsXP for a while, but once you have open source linux drivers, they are usually very good.

Concerning Konqueror and IE: I prefer Konqueror. It is a lot safer, reasonably fast and a lot cheaper and more free as well.

Your argument about "background pics" shows that you are not very well informed. khtml does not yet support mhtml (it is in CVS though) and loading background pictures from a server is very dangerous for a mail agent. You can turn it on though, kmail will still be safer than OE.

by Lightning (not verified)

>Linux does support many devices, has almost perfect plug and play, does now
>finally offer excellent hotplugging support (My digicam works out of the SuSE-
>8.1 box).

I can only say something for RH8.0 and MDK9.0, both very recent, and plug and play support just isn't what it should be: winXP autodetects new hardware and autoinstalls them without any further questions. And hardware support: I know quite a few people using linux, and we encountered troubles with LG cdrom drive, iomega zip drive, ethernet card with RLT8139 chipset in laptop, HP scanner, ... Need to say more? All working perfectly under win9x or winXP.

>Concerning Konqueror and IE: I prefer Konqueror. It is a lot safer, reasonably
>fast and a lot cheaper and more free as well.
Cheaper??? Last time I checked, IE was free as well...
And safer? I should answer yes, but that's not thanks to konquerors safety, but thanks to its impopularity. It just isn't fun for hackers to write hacks for products only 1 or 2% of the users use. When - or better if - konqueror becomes more popular, security exploits will be found there as well. I don't state this out of the blue, but after reading several articles about security issues for my studies.

>Your argument about "background pics" shows that you are not very well >informed.

No, it is because it does not work: kmail places the attached picture below, while it should be shown as background. All options are configured so that it should work.

by GreyWolf3000 (not verified)

Why, then, do you come here to a kde forum regarding a release of kde, and bitch about Linux and it's inferiority to Windows? KDE doesn't assert that it is the best out there; though some users *do* tend to cheerlead excessively (hence, I recognize your initial perturbation). However, this is the appropriate forum to do so, and it is not the appropriate forum for OS wars. If you are content with Windows, and indeed so confident in its long term success, then please, go to a Windows forum, and blow your load there, and don't come back here criticizing us for doing the same.

P.S. I have several ethernet cards running off of the RTL8139 chipset; all work perfectly and get autodetected fine. You are gravely mistaken if you think that Linux hardware support is worse than Windows--I could give you horror stories but I'm fortunately informed enough to discard them as weak foundation for such arguments.

P.P.S. At any rate, if you need your hand held so much when you use a P.C. check out OS X. They've put together the finest desktop experience ever created, hands down. Hats off to the KDE folks; we should be striving for OS X quality, not XP.

by Datschge (not verified)

Since you are so bold with your kind of statements I suggest you to take a look at http://www.pivx.com/larholm/unpatched/ where you can see a list of 19 known but still not patched vulnerabilities in Microsoft's core product Internet Explorer, the oldest one of them dating one year back. Now please also consider that Microsoft, often being called the biggest software company in the world, should have the man power and money to solve those problems very quickly, but not only are they not doing this, they also won't officially delay their products due to them.

Internet Explorer is not the "best" browser: http://www.xs4all.nl/~ppk/css2tests/index.html

HTML shouldn't be used in emails:
http://www.american.edu/cas/econ/htmlmail.htm

The actual reason why everyone keeps paying for Windows while there are better alternatives:
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2001/10/23/13219/110

Have a nice day.

by Lightning (not verified)

One can never know all bugs before a release, and who says there are no security bugs in unix systems? A security report of CERN on last year stated that all major security bugs in server applications were found on unix servers. NO major security bugs were found on windows servers. Unfortunately, one never mentions this...

> Internet Explorer is not the "best" browser: >http://www.xs4all.nl/~ppk/css2tests/index.html

Talking about bold statements.... this is only one test, and only about css2, which is only a tiny part of the whole browser...

> HTML shouldn't be used in emails:
> http://www.american.edu/cas/econ/htmlmail.htm

They state cases where it can be used, so no reason here not to support it well

>The actual reason why everyone keeps paying for Windows while there are better >alternatives:
> http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2001/10/23/13219/110

Ridiculous, I know lots of computer stores here in Belgium, where you can choose to buy your computer without windows, and where you can choose for a linux OS.
The real reason remains that linux stays an OS for people with computer knowledge, because it still is to difficult for the ordinary user...

by Anand Singh Bisen (not verified)

Windows Rulz !!! Windows is great windows meets the deadline !!!! Even after all these good things about windows and microsoft that you know ... you still come to http://dot.kde.org to take so much pain in pondering about the bad stuff about KDE and it seems you are using KDE in your home or office too (KDE + LINUX + GNU Tools) because you know that Konqueror is nothing as compared to IE but you still use it ... Zip drive dosent work in Linux but you still try to make it work... Your CD ROM Did'nt worked in RH 8.0 then you tried Mandrake 9.0 but it works in Windows without any extra efforts.... can you tell me why do you use linux... and invest huge amount of time in this useless crap OS that you think it is...

One more thing you wont find many linux users searching mailing lists of M$ world ... and quoting .. it's just that you want to learn something that you think and you know it far superior and better but you are not able to accept...

If you are a IT pro... then maybe this goes for you too...

Thou shall never believe that by clapping hands and chanting "La! La! La! Free Software is the best!" long and loudly enough, it'll come true. Choose free over non-free only when it is better or when thou art willing to fix what is broken.

--- soft panorama.org

by Lightning (not verified)

I have to use it for my studies.... I'm studying informatics, and we have to program on unix and linux systems.
And I'm playing devil's advacate here.... Of course linux and kde have some great features, and are sometimes better than windows, but I just think that looking down on windows isn't going to promote open source. Programmers should realize that user-friendliness is a major issue, and not a tiny thing for when there is time left...
When you look at windows XP, without any prejudice, you just see a great and user-friendly system. Very expensive, but usable for the ordinary user.

> Thou shall never believe that by clapping hands and chanting "La! La! La! Free
> Software is the best!" long and loudly enough, it'll come true. Choose free over
> non-free only when it is better or when thou art willing to fix what is broken.

This just confirms my statement... The ordinary user just can't fix a thing, so they have to buy a system they can work with....

by GreyWolf3000 (not verified)

As I mentioned in another post (I apologize for the flame; when you read these messageboards more often, you get sick of the Windows fanboys, and jump the gun), OS X is a far better model for gui intuitiveness.

Case in point: XP home doesn't let you tell the computer what your IP/gateway/dns addresses are, and instead forces a cumbersome, annoying, patronizing "guide" that asks you to format all you networked computers and install XP on them. The technology to "do it yourself" exists in Home edition, but nowhere does it say it has been locked away, only to be touched by a really annoying "wizard."

It's getting harder and harder to manage Windows if you know what you're doing and want to avoid senseless amounts of "help" aimed at grandma; OS X is a UI that grandma can use much more easily than Windows. Experts also feel right at home.

by Lightning (not verified)

Your flame provided me just with a good laugh, as my sources were creditable and I really don't need my hand held, as I study informatics for 3 years now. If you like to get sick, I really don't care.
It's just plain silly to deny the good things about windows: it is a system which is quite user-friendly and mostly works fine. There are bugs and bad things, but where aren't? There are quite enough in every linux system too.
I have little experience with winXP, but what I saw of it was all really good. Perhaps the look isn't every thing, but if you see the themes for kde and gnome, all those open source people who are looking down on windows are trying to copy there themes, quite funny if you ask me.
Your point about XP and network is - again - stupid: a guide is just what most people need for such things, not something like mdk9.0 offers now: a bad standard configuration or an export option with very little help.
Guides and help can often be ignored or also used by experienced users, but when it isn't there and one needs it, what then?

I can't comment on OS X as I have never seen it, only that you are stuck with macintosh then...

by GreyWolf3000 (not verified)

> Your flame provided me just with a good laugh, as my sources were creditable and I really don't need my hand held, as I study informatics for 3 years now. If you like to get sick, I really don't care.

I never said that you were a 'n00b,' merely the equivalent of, say, a Communist entering a Republican or Libertarian rally and preaching his values. Not the time or place, don't you agree. I am not a Linux fanboy, and do apologize for "jumping the gun" with you, so to speak. You strike me as being fairly knowledgeable on the subject matter, but I believe that is irrelevant. Believe me, I am quite immune to the "harshness" of online conversation (in reality, I don't really care either beyond a minor annoyance).

> It's just plain silly to deny the good things about windows: it is a system which is quite user-friendly and mostly works fine. There are bugs and bad things, but where aren't? There are quite enough in every linux system too.

You'd really have to have experienced OS X to know what I'm talking about here, but Apple has outdone Windows in every aspect of GUI friendliness and ease. It doesn't just "mostly" work fine, it always works fine. I believe that the problem of your comment is *not* failing to address Linux's superiority on the desktop, but for finding an inferior role model for success. Trying to acheive Windows would be like emulating the steps that an Olympic runner who made second or third place took, as opposed to the first.

Hence, you're ignorance of OS X has made your argument invalid; because you are trying to show the KDE team that their efforts should be put to improving KDE to the standards of Windows in term of usability, you are clearly blinded to the fact that Windows isn't King of the Hill in terms of UI design.

> I have little experience with winXP, but what I saw of it was all really good. Perhaps the look isn't every thing, but if you see the themes for kde and gnome, all those open source people who are looking down on windows are trying to copy there themes, quite funny if you ask me.

Yes, there are XP themes, and there are Aqua themes as well. The open source movement tends to emulate more than it creates; that is an admitted shortcoming. However, I believe that the simple flexibility of KDE to not only look the part, but to act the part of various user interfaces is testament to it's power. Suffice it to say that *if* KDE had the money to outsource talented professionals, the results *would* be quite impressive.

But a GUI goes beyond that. However, being that Windows has emulated Mac's UI design guidelines, I don't feel like this is a point I need to attack, since not only did you not make it, but you couldn't have if you tried.

> Your point about XP and network is - again - stupid: a guide is just what most people need for such things, not something like mdk9.0 offers now: a bad standard configuration or an export option with very little help.
Guides and help can often be ignored or also used by experienced users, but when it isn't there and one needs it, what then?

You cannot blame KDE for this problem. KDE doesn't exist to set up networking. My point was to show that Windows has made a huge design error by pigeon holing and narrowly defining basic tasks and thereby render a user who needs to do something outside that definition helpless. And what I was trying to do was not something that only experienced pros would do! Again, the difficulty of using Linux is not the result of KDE project--the KDE project is not designed to set up your networking; hence, it should not even be compared to Windows as you have done so. This clearly shows how you have turned a project release candidate into an out-of-place, hackneyed OS debate which has not been helpful to either of us.

By the way, Mandrake and the other distributions are making huge progress in terms of ease of use; and they're more than happy to give you support providing you pay for your product. Your point, friend, is the one that is - stupid -.

> I can't comment on OS X as I have never seen it, only that you are stuck with macintosh then...

"Stuck" is a negative word that doesn't apply to having a superior product. If something is better, you'll want it and you'll stick with it, but you won't be "stuck" with it.

Most users are in fact "stuck" with Windows, but I don't want you to get sick :)

by nusuth (not verified)

>I don't say it's good that windows is so late, open source just isn't better.

No, you didn't say that. Instead, you said we all make fun of MS when windows slips. My point was, we don't. They usually slip at least as much.

When they slip and hype and deliver windows 95 in the end, we do. If they are late and bring XP or 2k to the table, noone cares. I'm sure kde3.1 will be a fine release. I don't care if they are late, I want kde 3.1 to work as advertised and I'm sure it will. I'd like them not to abuse "rc" tag but that is my only gripe.

I find your story about non-working cdrom hard to swallow. Can you supply more details? Only once I have seen such a thing and it was a buggy bios that wouldn't detect a masterless slave IDE device.

Your rant about missing SUPERIOR free alternative is misleading. Everybody has a different taste for what superior is. I don't care about background pics. I do think konqueror is better than IE. OTOH sub-par font rendering of X+Xft2+KDE seriously bugs me, just like braindead command prompt of NT does.

BTW noone merged NT and 9x kernels; XP is running on a dot-modified win2k kernel (w2k=5.0, wxp=5.1), it was the product lines that had to be merged. They could have done that with windows 2000, had it been a little less memory hungry for its time.

by Lightning (not verified)

> I find your story about non-working cdrom hard to swallow. Can you supply more
> details? Only once I have seen such a thing and it was a buggy bios that
> wouldn't detect a masterless slave IDE device.

It was an LG 52x CDROM in a new computer. It stood master on the 2nd IDEwith no slave. (2 HD on 1st IDE, correctly master-slave configured).
Windows worked fine. Boot from CDROM with MDK9.0 CD worked, but shortly after, the setup gave the error 'CDROM not foud', with lots of mount errors. A RH7.2 I had too, installed fine.
For my zip drive the same: I double checked the master-slave options (it's now slave on 2nd IDE), BIOS finds it, works perfectly under win98, but fails to mount under MDK9.0, and locks booting for 3 minutes! (on 'mounting local file systems')

'Superior' is indeed a personal opinion, but IE is still faster than konqueror, which is in my opinion an important measure. But tabs in konqueror 3.1 is also a big plus, and most pages are shown quite well.

by nusuth (not verified)

I've never even had a zip drive and I have no idea why it might fail.

As for cd and mdk, try booting with the alternate kernels on second cd. If that fails too, try hdparm -d 0 /dev/hdc at busybox prompt. Mandrake's QC is a bit lax, to say the least.

by oGALAXYo (not verified)

Thanks for KDE. It's the best Desktop Environment on U*IX (and derivates).

by Darin Manica (not verified)

Konstruct is an excellent tool, thank you! As KDE is getting increasingly large, it seems that it would be possible to provide upgrade-diff tar balls and have Konstruct (via patch) pull it all together. The process could be automated on both ends (tar packagers and users of Konstruct) to provide a seemless upgrade between releases. This would save a considerable amount of bandwidth, and certainly would help modem users like myself.

Darin

by AC (not verified)

Could someone confirm some recent borkage in qt-copy HEAD ? fails to create moc.y or something and fails to build in general. I didn't made any changes to my system e.g. same bison, same compiler same glibc same lexer (flex) so I assume it's more coderelated.

by AC (not verified)

.. used to compile like a charm 26th dec 2002 with named setup.

by Shyru (not verified)

Same problem here. Can't get it to build... :(

Any ideas?

by AC (not verified)

Nope, no ideas. Let's wait for a qt-copy update which may arrive every day. But good to know that I'm not the only one.

by eli0tt (not verified)

You may want to read README.qt-copy

GNU Bison did not work for me, so i did as they said and used byacc instead. I think there's your problem.

by Shyru (not verified)

No, I also read README.qt-copy, and thought, ahh, its a yacc problem. So I installed byacc, and set YACC='byacc -d' before configuring QT, but this did not help! :(

by eli0tt (not verified)

Yeah, setting the YACC variable did not do the trick for me, too. When trying to build it still used the "yacc" command instead of "byacc". Try looking for this.

If this is the case try editing the Makefile in 'src/moc' directly and change "YACC = yacc" to "YACC = byacc -d". Finally - in that dir - do a "make clean" and "make".

It worked for me.

by Alan Chandler (not verified)

It seems to me to screw up y.moc during the qmake/configure portion. If you do a cvs up after these steps you will see cvs seemingly trying to merge two files. I deleted these two files, cvs up again and then make and it worked.

by AC (not verified)

No, Bison used to work flawlessly for me before. That's definately no Bison issue. As I previously wrote QT-COPY used to compile flawlessy for me with the same setup on 26th dec 2002.

by Jesper Juhl (not verified)

I can confirm that QT 3.1.1 seems broken (3.1.0 builds nicely on this box).

On my box it breaks like this :

gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/local/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/src/moc'
yacc -d moc.y
moc.y:849: warning: previous rule lacks an ending `;'
moc.y:908: type clash (`' `arg') on default action
moc.y:1066: type clash (`' `string') on default action
moc.y:1067: type clash (`' `string') on default action
moc.y:1068: type clash (`' `string') on default action
moc.y:1094: warning: previous rule lacks an ending `;'
moc.y:1273: type clash (`' `string') on default action
moc.y:1274: type clash (`' `string') on default action
moc.y:1402: type clash (`' `string') on default action
moc.y:1436: type clash (`' `string') on default action
gmake[2]: *** [moc_yacc.cpp] Error 1
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/qt-x11-free-3.1.1/src/moc'
gmake[1]: *** [src-moc] Error 2
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/qt-x11-free-3.1.1'
gmake: *** [init] Error 2

by AC (not verified)

Yep exactly this. Thank you.

by Jesper Juhl (not verified)

I emailed the QT people of TrollTech about this, and they told me the reason for this breakage.

It turns out that building QT 3.1.1 (and, they say 3.1.0 as well) requires Berkeley yacc. Using bison in yacc compatibility mode is not good enough, you need the real yacc installed.

/Jesper Juhl

by eli0tt (not verified)

that's what i said from the beginning, thx!
it builds fine for me (with Berkeley yacc).

by Christian Iversen (not verified)

Even though I haven't had the time to try rc6 yet, rc5 is truly a good product. The developers have done a great job, and deserve to be thanked excessively :-)

by Anders Juel Jensen (not verified)

hail that!

/kidcat

by elmaquer (not verified)

anyone had any luck getting it to work? I get:
$ make install
"../../gar.conf.mk", line 66: Need an operator
"../../gar.conf.mk", line 74: Need an operator
Variable LD_LIBRARY_PATH is recursive.

by elmaquer (not verified)

doh!
gmake should do the trick methinks