KDE 3.0.1 Ships

Following the remarkably successful launch of the KDE 3 series with
a very stable KDE 3.0 last month,
the KDE Project today announced the immediate availability of KDE 3.0.1.
While primarily a translation release, it also squashes some bugs, including
some minor security issues with KHTML. Check out the
announcement and the fairly complete
ChangeLog.
Binary packages are available from the stalwart KDE packagers at
Compaq Tru64, Conectiva Linux, Mandrake Linux and SuSE Linux.
As always, we hope you enjoy the latest and greatest KDE!

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by Jake (not verified)

Can we count on it? It's been a long time since i've seen something as screwed up as this. My sh*t is broken...bad.

by Stephan Richter (not verified)

Yeah, I just wasted an entire day of work rebuilding Mandrake with the old version of KDE 3. This has at least one advantage: It seems to be more stable now. But please, do that never again! :)

by Hervé PARISSI (not verified)

Where are *UPDATED* i18n rpms ? Now I got KDE 3.0.1 but in English instead of French lol !

by Hervé PARISSI (not verified)

Thanks ! They weren't there (updated /opt/kde3 rpms) when I check, they put it on 1st June !

by PARENA (not verified)

But what I would like to know is: how come??? It's as if it hadn't been tested at all.

by xalba (not verified)

I've had problems installing 3.0.1 but after some atempts could make it by uninstalling KDE 2.2.2 and 3.0 completely even qt2 and qt3, arts2, arts3, libarts2, libarts3. After that when installing the 3.0.1 version, I had a conflict with 3 entries in the package mandrake-mime-0.1-5mdk, but after forcing the installation everything seems to work fine.
Haven't have much time to probe it because I've installed it about 15" ago. But I've downloaded mail with KMail, I'm using konqueror right now, have used konsole, kwrite and some other apps and they work smoth.

Bye.

by El Zorro (not verified)

So... do you think we are stupid?
You could not install any app not in a million years. You have problems using MS-Word! And I can believe you were on saturday afternoon at work. You probably were at the nastiest american bar of the city looking for some dirty stuff.

Greetings from Goierri.

by El Zorro (not verified)

So... do you think we are stupid?
You could not install any app not in a million years. You have problems using MS-Word! And I can believe you were on saturday afternoon at work. You probably were at the nastiest american bar of the city looking for some dirty stuff.

Greetings from Goierri.

by xalba (not verified)

You know that child who play with fire...

akerrak adarrak okerrak ditu.

by El Zorro (not verified)

Ene bada CoCo!!

by El Zorro (not verified)

Bihar arte ;-0

by Juan M. Caravaca (not verified)

I've just updated my kde installation to 3.0.1 (forcing installation (rpm --force)). Now everything on kde appears to run fine, everything but kicker. Kicker always crash...

Does anybody else have the same problem ? Is it a common problem or a problem only I have ? Will it be fixed (I mean if it is a common problem)?

BTW, KDE 3 flies, kde 2 is a turtle compared to kde 3.

Thanks for such a great desktop (kde) and such a great distro (Mandrake)

by tomas (not verified)

I have the same problem. I've upgraded my slackware 8.0 system by installing kde 3 desktop envinronment. Everythings goes right, but kicker always crash.

by Oli (not verified)

Hello,
I have the same problem! Kicker is always crashing ... he can't read a string ... anybody can solve the Problem now?

tia

OLI

by Maarten Rommerts (not verified)

Perharps it is a good idea to start working on something like certified rpm-pakages. In the past I also had some nasty problems with messed up rpm´s. By first testing those packages we could see if the quality is good enough, and then give them a label.

It a shame that good programs like Linux and KDE get the wrong reputation, only because some things are beiing messed up. KDE is and will always be goood stuff, lets preserve that.

Go for KDE-quality!!

by dan (not verified)

I know they were supposed to be done 2 weeks after 3.0 was shipped, but that never happened?
is there something wrong with them?

by Daniël Mantione (not verified)

Yes, this isn't the first time you guys have heard it, but my K6-350, 128 megs of ram still needs over a minute to go from kdm to the desktop. Gentlemen, that's too slow! Nice job, KDE 3, but go get every speed improvement you can do.

by antialias (not verified)

Fast kde start:

http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=1332

and it works :)

Cheers

by Anonymous (not verified)

> and it works :)

No, and don`t complain if KDE misbehaves with this start script.

by antialias (not verified)

Yes, you're right. I used it for a short period of time and it couses problems. Sorry :(

by Daniël (not verified)

Nice tip!

Put it in KDE 3.02 please!

by Andy Goossens (not verified)

Never going to happen! That script is full with dirty hacks

by Jonsum Sim (not verified)

The script "works" by failing to initialise several things needed by KDE apps. The result is that startup is quicker, but starting applications is slower (and uses more memory).

by Morty (not verified)

So what if going from KDM to the desktop takes 1 minute or 5, it does not matter.
Really how many times a day do you loggin? Whats matters are all services starts correctly like aRts, DCOP etc so you don't get strange behaviour and crashes.

The speed witch matters are things like rendring of web pages in khtml, open/save, copy/move/delete of files etc. Things like the work you do all day. And the startuptime of the apps, but the important ones are the small ones. The ones you start, do someting and close. Not the big apps like browser/wordprocessor/ide, you usually keep them open til you are finished, you don't close your browser and restart it to go to the next site do you. So speed doing the things those programs do, are more important than startup time.

by Daniël (not verified)

Well, you are right. But, I don't have my computer powered on all day. The startup of Linux is already quite long, add to that the startup time of KDE, and it becomes irritating.

The speed of KDE while it is running is not perfect, but acceptable.

by Vic (not verified)

From what I've read and experienced, it's a lot easier on computer hardware to leave it running all the time than to be constantly powering it off and on. we have 3 PCs in our apartment (2 desktops and a server) and they all run 24/7, and I haven't had a single problem with any of them (the server just passed the 100 day uptime mark :)

by Anonymous (not verified)

I'm on a laptop. Leaving my machine up all the time is not an option. KDE's start time is long. It's annoying. Rather than telling this person his complaint isn't valid, or he's confused, or saying that the only available solution is a 'dirty, dirty hack', could someone actually work on this and make a solution that isn't a hack?

Amen to that! And while somewhat is working on this, could someone else fix the khtml (konqueror and kmail) printing problems that have existed since version 2.

Konqueror and Kmail still either cut off lines or repeat lines on the bottom of one page at the top of the next page.

by Waldo Bastian (not verified)

I fixed that today for KDE 3.1, there is still a bit of a problem with CSS-specified margins but once that is sorted out I hope to be able to backport it to KDE 3.0.2 (whenever that is)

Cheers,
Waldo

Release plan says end of June for KDE 3.0.2.

Fantastic!!! I'm looking forward to seeing the print fix!

Right, somebody is working on it, but not on KDE, and only Linux.
http://lwn.net/2002/0523/a/swsusp.php3
Solving the problem the right way for laptops.:)

cool. you made my point for me,
but with a good reference to join it ;-)

cool. you made my point for me,
but with a good reference to join it ;-)

by ac (not verified)

One minute! I have a slower computer than you and it only takes 15 seconds. Perhaps you could try moving your .kde out the way to see if it is causing the slowdown. Maybe clearing out /tmp would help. Definitely a problem with your setup, anyway.

by ik (not verified)

fairly important speed tip:
if you use a distribution (like debian) that cleans up /tmp regularry/at boottime, its a good thing to remove the symlink .kde/tmp- and creating a directory instead. So restarting kde after wiping out /tmp (after boot) goes a lot faster.

by The Arcangel (not verified)

I have MDK 8.2 and i have installed kde3, but i observe this a upgrade from kde 2.
Exist a trick to do that upgrade, or i go back and install kde2?

:/

TheARC

by steve (not verified)

Is the giant sidebar still there on every
File Dialog, or was the fix to toggle it off
backported into 3.0.1?

by Carsten Pfeiffer (not verified)

No, the fix is not there, because it would have introduced a new string ("Hide/show Sidebar") and the translators apparently didn't like that.

See
http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-devel&m=101563925223073&w=2

for the patch.

by Rob Kaper (not verified)

Actually, it is policy not to introduce new i18n messages after the message freeze and in stable releases. Just pointing out they are in their right not to like it and not just whining.

by Carsten Pfeiffer (not verified)

Of course it is their right. But with that decision, there is this small usability problem, not going away for several months. I know the policy, but I dislike their decision.

by ac (not verified)

You're right, this is a huge deal. But unfortunately you did not make this clear when you posted your patch, and the translator thought this was a new feature not a usability fix. Oh well, miscommunications happen.

by Anonymous (not verified)

Bind it to F9 without meny entry.

by Dyzio (not verified)

I have a big problem with flash on Mandrake 8..2 with KDE 3.0.1. It doezn't work.
I don't know why.
Any tips ?

P.S. Sorry about my english.

by obi (not verified)

maybe.
Remove all mesa libs from your system and check if it works (actually
I forgot which rpm was the culprit, but it was definatly something from Mesa).

by antialias (not verified)

# rpm -qa | grep Mesa
libMesaGLU1-4.0.1-4mdk
# rpm -e libMesaGLU1-4.0.1-4mdk
error: removing these packages would break dependencies:
libGLU.so.1 is needed by xlockmore-5.01.2-4mdk
libGLU.so.1 is needed by libqt3-3.0.4-2mdk
libGLU.so.1 is needed by XFree86-4.2.0-11mdk
#

by antialias (not verified)

# rpm -qa | grep Mesa
libMesaGLU1-4.0.1-4
# rpm -e libMesaGLU1-4.0.1-4
error: removing these packages would break dependencies:
libGLU.so.1 is needed by xlockmore-5.01.2-4
libGLU.so.1 is needed by libqt3-3.0.4-2
libGLU.so.1 is needed by XFree86-4.2.0-11
#

by Dyzio (not verified)

Remove Mesa ?
No way.

by danny (not verified)

you can force it:)
it is the only way of getting it fixed