Announcing New KDE-PIM Site

Klaus Staerk alerted us to the launch
The main goal of this site is to organize KDE Personal Information Management news updates as well as group together all the related projects and goals.
The site already has some basic information about not so well-known PIM
projects such as Kandy,
Karm, and
KAlarm. Also available is information on current and future roadmaps for KDE PIM.

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by Oliver Bausinger (not verified)

What has happened to the Empath project (sources in CVS-kdepim-module). Is it dead or will work be taken on again on it (since KDE3 will support threading...)?

by Klaus (not verified)

no, it's not "dead". As Rik Hemsley informed there's quite some information I can put on about that - unfortunately I had no time to do that yet - but it will be online within the next few days ...



by David Bishop (not verified)

As a minor contributor to Kpilot, I'd just like to update ya'll on where's it at and where it's going. Currently it is in that infamous "state of flux" where cvs isn't going to do you much good :-) However, it's really starting to solidify, and we hope to have a 2.x compatabile release (seperate from kde3) here within a month. The improvments will be various, including real live usb support, much better conduit support, actual *working* conduits :-), reworked dialogs both for ease of use and ease of programming (lots of kde-designer based stuff), new icons (for all kde-pim stuff, hopefully), and did I mention better conduits?

Anyways, just a heads up that it is going great guns and Expect Good Things (esp. those of you like me who have usb-cradles for their handsprings). Of course, we also have visions for where we are going in the future wrt more interoperability with the various apps and "workflow stations", but for now I'm pretty content with just getting the program working properly for the most number of people :-)

Oh, and just to answer the FAQ, no, palm 50x's are not supported and won't be until pilot-link is updated. Sorry :-(


by Thomas Olsen (not verified)

This is great news! I'm really looking forward to using kpilot with my visor

by Steve Nakhla (not verified)

What about support for platforms other than Linux? The thing I love about KDE is how easily it compiles on multiple platforms, especially Solaris 8 x86. I've never been able to get KPilot to compile correctly, however. Has any work been done on solving these kinds of issues? I've yet to find a decent program for syncing my Palm IIIc with Solaris!

by David Bishop (not verified)

I know Adriaan DeGroot (the current maintainer) has installed FreeBSD soley for testing with kpilot, and I also know he has mentioned Solaris issues before (with length of device names) so it is definetly something he is concerned about. However, and this is always true, if you have a box that you can test stuff on, even if it's just a "make/compile breaks here" sort of report, it will be gladly recieved and fixed. Your best bet is to download the current cvs version and go from there. Step-by-step instructions on how to do that is at however, it's now down to: steps 1-6 and step 7 being cd kpilot && make. OH, and there was a typo, step 6 should have read --with-extra-includes=/usr/includes/libpisock.


by R Berndt (not verified)

I've been trying for weeks to get my USB Handspring Visor Deluxe to Sync with KPilot. The kpilotDaemon just 'freezes' when I hit the button. I'm 'bout ready to give up.

by Shai (not verified)

What about an IOSlave?
There was a discussion here a while back about an IOSlave/Konq kpart. This would allow a "My PDA" top level folder in Konq to which we can drag applications ton install. I can imagine right clicking it to sync and clicking it in order to see kpilot embeded in Konq.

by David Bishop (not verified)

Feel free to implement that :-) Well, in all fairness, there are some other things on our plate right now (like making core stuff work), but that sounds like a great idea, and should be fairly easy once the rest is in place. If you could right-click->install on .pda, I would probably stop using pilot-xfer :-)

by Wiggle (not verified)

I want evolution/outlook like app!

and klyx too!

by Eron Lloyd (not verified)

If you aren't looking for a KDE specific app, Ximian's Evolution is maturing quite rapidly.

by Bill (not verified)

Try Aethera?

its made by TheKompany

by NO (not verified)

And it looks good, but have almost no working function..

by Rinse (not verified)

Hmmm why does everyone want to have an Outlook look-a-like program?

by Evandro (not verified)

No, only the people that got used to it (and liked it).

by Rinse (not verified)

Well, I use it, got used to it, but couldn't find any reason wy to use it in KDE as we., I do my notes with knotes, mail with kmail adresses in Kadressbook, and my Agenda is in KOrganizer.
Nice set of apps that do the job, interact with each other (ok some parts could interact a bit more), and best of all, don't use the resources that Outlook or Evolution use.
But well, that's my $0.02


by Evandro (not verified)

I understand that. I personally prefer integrated seperated applications (like in KDE 3 or somewhat evolution, but evolution is package in one package).

But some people like to do these tasks in the same application, and that's why there are applications for them and for you too ;)

by Wiggle (not verified)

A shell with kmail and korganizer would be nice! like koffice shell! i just want more IMAP things in KMAIL TOO!

and do nto forget klyx! I HATE XFORMS LYX.

by Andre4s (not verified)

I thingk Kmail is uggly .. mozilla mail looks nice but is terrible slow and therefor not unable.

by Wiggle (not verified)

Some of us use our computers as tools. I guess you don't.

by Carbon (not verified)

Oh, come on. Computers need to be at least somewhat visually appealing, as long as it isn't taken to such extremes that it becomes a priority over performance (see iMac). That's what styles, window decorations, and backgrounds are for.

On the other hand, I rather prefer kmail's look to any of the mozilla themes I've tried.

by jsp (not verified)

LyX will currently be ported to QT2 (and GTK, too). The more people are willing to help, the earlier we will see a QT2-Version (actually, most of the dialogs are ready). And maybe there will be a real KDE-Port eventually...
Have a look at

by aleXXX (not verified)

some days ago I read that klyx (or qlyx) exists and works, so search the web :-)

And I have to use outlook at work, IMO it sucks beyond believe, no comparison to kmail. I don't understand how people can actaully use it. One of the worst GUI's I've ever seen. Even is better.


by MarkD (not verified)

>Even is better


Yes, we want x-rated ad pics with every GUI.

Sorry, have to check my mail at gmx, immediately

by Jonathan Brugge (not verified)

KLyX exists indeed (I use it quite a lot), but there's one major problem: afaik it's only available for KDE 1.x (or Qt 1.x, for that matter). The next problem (for me anyway) is that it depends on a non-free (as in: closed-source) lib (xforms). Luckily there's a port underway: LyX (not KLyX) is being ported to Qt2, as someone already said.

by John (not verified)

Oh Gimme a break .. are you just saying that to be politically correct?

Outlook is a very well thought out and feature rich application. It's only problem is that it isn't written using QT/KDE and doesn't run on Linux.

My default desktop at the moment is KDE, so I'm using kmail. I like it, but there are definately some features I used to use in outlook that I miss. For example, Kmail doesn't have the ability to apply filters to views of mail folders. I used to view some folders on Outlook with filters set so that only new + threaded mails were visible.

Nor is there an easy way to mark a folder "read" without first selecting everything in the folder and that is expensive when there are 10,000+ mails in the folder (as there are in many of my old Outlook mail list folders). Outlook has a RMB menu option to mark the folder as read. A small feature, but one I used several times every day!

So don't knock Outlook because because it's not Linux ; it has a lot of good things going for it.

by Mike Lee (not verified)

What KDE-PIM need is a konquerer like framework that allow kmail, korganiser, kaddressbook, kpilot, etc fit into one. User customisable of course. If someone dont need a function just have to take it out. Fully plugable

by Alex (not verified)

Is there any possibility to use the actual Konqueror framework for that? As far as I understand, this just requires wrapping kmail, korganizer and others as KParts.

by And Repeat (not verified)

Because it works. :)

by Steven (not verified)

Because it integrates a KMail-like and a KOrganizer-like application:
email (duh!) + automatic organiser + ...

You receive a proposal for an appoint, and you can accept/reject it. If you accept, your organizer is updated automatically. I never thought it would work (I'm a KDE junky) but in my current job we all use it and I got to admit, it's a great application (that is, if you're not running Win2k and don't mind the crashes etc.)

KDE could do this if KMail and KOrganiser were integrated. This has been suggested before, but I don't think anybody is actually doing it (??).

by Cornelius Schumacher (not verified)

You should try the CVS version of KOrganizer. Set up a mail filter in KMail, which calls the script korganizerIn and you will get what you want. Help is welcome to finish this feature.

by anonymous (not verified)

And I want a red Ferrari.

by Timothy R. Butler (not verified)

I think I could make do with a nice shiny new 2 GHz Dell with SuSE 7.3 on it. ;-) Especially if it was *in* the red Ferrari....


by Carbon (not verified)

Hey, how about 100 or so custom rack-mount boxen, each with 4 2ghz procs in it. Then, I can form them into a arch, and drive the Ferrari under it! :-)

by Timothy R. Butler (not verified)

Hey, why not, I won't complain. ;-) Sounds good, should we add anything else?

by them (not verified)

How about a Holodeck, so you can simulate as many cars and Ferarris as you want?

by Johnny Andersson (not verified)

Imagine a Beowulf cluster of Ferraris!

by Waldo Bastian (not verified)

He, that's my line!


by Blue (not verified)

has anyone else seen abysmal launch times with korganizer? when i click on the alarm icon (in the tray) to launch korganizer, it takes about 1:45 before the window opens.

i'm running debian sid, latest kde 2.2.1, kernel 2.4.12 & xfree86 4.1.0.

that's weird. you should either submit a bug report or email one of the mailing lists (kde-linux perhaps?). It takes about 2-10 seconds for me (typical of any kde app that has not been launched yet)

I have the same problem on my machine. Starting korganizer takes almost a minute as soon the calendar contains a few entries.

I'm using KDE 2.2.1 on Solaris 7.

I have no such problem. It appears almoast at the moment I click on the icon.

by Jonno (not verified)

Are there any plans for an addon allowing syncing with a Windows CE device?

It would be great for handhelds that can actually run linux, but can't run anything useful on linux.

by Carbon (not verified)

Well, it's easy enough to port things to the Agenda VR3 (X on a handheld... insane!), but I assume you mean stuff you can slap QT-E on, like the iPaq.

by A.G.Gavalas (not verified)

No, No, No, read the question. This person is talking about "syncing" not porting. They don't want QT Embedded linux on the pda, although I agree it's a great option, assuming it's doable on your CE Devices architecture. They are talking about a program to sync their email, documents, KDE already has for the palm. The only one I've ever seen didn't get very was called lince. Now if you search for it, you get a lot of mips architecture port pages. I'm sure there is a way, though. I'm connecting through serial, right now, and using internet functions to download my email through the linux server. So now all that is needed is a frontend with some conversion software.

by Andreas Joseph Krogh (not verified)

Like MS has Addressbook Providers and Messagestore Providers, KDE-pim shoud have some interfaces which can be implemented by various backends. Then we could have an SQL-backend for storing addresses/groups etc, or a FILE backend or what ever you implement as an Addressbok Provider. For Messagestore Providers one could implement backends for storing and indexing email, included indexing of mail-headers(ok. might be beon scope of kde-pim) which would be greate for enterprises and search-functionallity. Having this interoperating with KMail, KOrganizer etc. wolud truely bring _real_ groupware funktionallity to KDE.

Andreas Joseph Krogh

by Corba the Geek (not verified)

Seems like a project to cut one's teeth on!

by (not verified)

As an owner of Nokia 8210 (with IRDA support) i'll be glade to connect kandy to my by my Toshiba laptop with IR port. I try gnooki utils but this approach is too nerd..

kandy -> IRDA port -->

by Thomas Hedler (not verified)

I would like to have my KAddressbook to look at a LDAP Directory
server if it could not find the address in his own files.

Is this a planned feature?

by David Bishop (not verified)

Yes. This is part of that Sphynx initiative from Germany.