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Re: Shutdown (not logoff) from KDE
by not me on Sunday 26/Aug/2001, @11:22
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>I've got it so that it boots right into KDE and they don't have to login at KDM.
Well, first of all, why do you do that? That way your family members don't get to each have their own special separate backgrounds, screensavers, themes, e-mail, etc. Just because its the way Win98 works doesn't mean its the best way (look at WinXP and its login system). If you want easy login, just set KDM to show icons for each user and leave their passwords blank. You'll be glad when your kids stop fighting about whether or not to have N*Sync wallpaper :-)
>How do I make it so they can shutdown, instead of logout, from KDE.
This is still a valid question, though. KDE doesn't have any builtin support for this, but it shouldn't be hard to add a button to the panel to do it. Most distros use the "shutdown now" command to shut down (I think?), so you should add a button to the panel that runs this command (or whatever your distro uses). Make sure the users have adequate permissions though. |
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Re: Shutdown (not logoff) from KDE
by Carbon on Sunday 26/Aug/2001, @13:06
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Hmm, I believe that GNOME has had this feature for a while. Perhaps someone could take a look at the GNOME code that does this, and reimplement it?
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Re: Shutdown (not logoff) from KDE
by not me on Sunday 26/Aug/2001, @22:32
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Well, there's a "no new features" mandate for KDE 2.2.1, so it won't be included there. You'll have to wait for 3.0 for any new features. It won't be that long of a wait though :-)
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Re: Shutdown (not logoff) from KDE
by Dorkus on Sunday 26/Aug/2001, @15:15
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>Well, first of all, why do you do that?
Baby steps... I am trying to move these folks from Windows to Linux. They have no concept right now of multiple users.
Once they are used to operating in KDE I'll look to introduce separate logins to them.
The kids are the easy ones, they have no fear of learning something new. My wife however...
I'll see if I can put a button on the kde taskbar with a shutdown script behind it.
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Re: Shutdown (not logoff) from KDE
by not me on Sunday 26/Aug/2001, @22:51
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>I am trying to move these folks from Windows to Linux. They have no concept right now of multiple users.
What's to learn? The computer works the same way, you just have to click your name at the beginning (and you get your own files/preferences, but if you don't tell them that they probably won't even notice for several days or even weeks). The only thing you have to know is that you logout when you are done. I don't see it causing any problems. I think its better to change everything now and let them get used to it, rather than changing how it works after they're already comfortable.
That's just IMHO, of course. Apply salt grains as desired :-)
Also, I just remembered the session management. I don't think KDE's session management will work if you run "shutdown now." Apps won't restore their positions on the next startup and they won't ask if you want to save your work before shutting down (possibly resulting in lost work :-()
To get around this you might try a shell script that logs out of KDE using DCOP and _then_ executes "shutdown now." This might cause annoying screen flashing as KDM comes up and is immediately killed by the shutdown script though. Also, I'm not sure how the shell script would be able to tell when KDE was completely logged out. To work really well, support for shutting down should be built into KDE. File a "wishlist" bug report for KDE 3.0.
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