The KDE Project is pleased to announce the immediate availability of KDE 3.5 Beta 2, dubbed "Koalition". The 3.5 Beta 2 info page lists where to download with packages available for Archlinux, Kubuntu, Slackware and SUSE.
The KDE team asks everyone to try the version and give feedback through the bug tracking system. A Klax Live CD is available or you can build it yourself using Konstruct. If you want to see what it looks like OSDir has screenshots.
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Oh, it would probably help if I mention I'm using kubuntu.
de-install all of KDE (deinstalling xorg will do the trick);
remove beta1/2 lines from /etc/apt/sources.list;
apt-get update;
apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
that's it.
1. if you want to downgrade only one package:
apt-cache policy
sudo apt-get install =
for example:
sudo apt-get install kontact=4:3.4.3-0ubuntu3
and you should hold the package.
2. if you want to fully downgrade, increase the priority of the older packages - man apt_preferences.
KDE 3.4 and 3.5 generally install into different directories. You should, unless Ubuntu crippled something, be able to select 3.4 from the login screen if 3.5 dies horribly. It even keeps its configuration in a different directory. :-)
It's Suse behaviour, not kde way to do.
So, in Debian/Ubuntu, if you install 3.5, it remove 3.4
Not just Suse. Gentoo separate them as well.
Also, one could install it to /opt/kde3.5 if one wanted, to keep it separate.
I installed it just when I saw the new konstruct on kde-apps getting the rpms for my suse 10.0 box. It really rocks and surelly is very stable.
Just kopete is giving me problems with ICQ connection and empty messages from some ICQ contacts, I hope they fix those problems soon.
Anyway, KDE 3.5 is shiny and beautifull, but does anybody know if the KDM theme used by Suse 10.0 that shows all users in a windows XP style also works for another distros or is a Novell hack?
The theme requires http://websvn.kde.org/branches/work/coolos_kdm/
Jeez, doesn't anybody post changelogs anymore? They'll go through the trouble of doing a bunch of screenshots, but trying to find a changelog is like pulling teeth.
Yes, that's what I'm looking for too :(
there will be a changelog only for the final release
Hey there must be changelog for 3.5 beta 2 version somewhere. If it's not how to help in debugging? Developers can't expect from us clicking on all icons and trying all features.
Can somebody post a list of features in beta to debug.
I very like conception of mozilla firefox QA Test. It would be great to see such document for kde beta
> I very like conception of mozilla firefox QA Test. It would be great to see such document for kde beta
Please go ahead. Your QA test documents will be surely welcomed in the kde project.
The feature plan is supposed to be the changelog until KDE 3.5 (final):
http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-3.5-features.html
Have a nice day!
I just updated from KDE 3.5 Beta 1 to KDE 3.5 Beta 2 on SuSE 10.0. I've found a couple of bugs/oddities.
Kontact crashes when you try to load the korganizer part after the kaddressbook part.
Konqueror file manager mode lags the entire computer down like crazy. 99% CPU usage. I have to kill the process every time I run konqueror filemanagement mode.
I think it maybe have something to do with me updating from KDE 3.5 Beta 1.. so I'm gonna uninstall all of the KDE packages and install them again, I'll let everyone know if that fixes my problems. :D
working perfectly here, so the Problem is with your Distribution , go to the Forum /Page/Wiki/Email there an write there !
chris
erm... where do i post? hahaha your post is really confusing..
I believe he's saying "Go to whatever method of discussion your distribution uses and post about it there", implying that the problem is on their end rather than KDE.
He's probably right, but not necessarily, and it's phrased as a brush off. You would do better to discuss it in a bug forum for either KDE or your distro than discussing it on a news site, though.
Kill the 'tee' process.
All is good then
I have the same problem with konqueror and I don't have "tee" process
> Konqueror file manager mode lags the entire computer down like crazy. 99% CPU usage.
There is an updated kdelibs.rpm available on ftp.kde.org, try if it fixes your problem.
That fixed the problem. 10x a loooot!
how about the suse patch for the Kmenu which adds a search in kde 3.4.3? i wonder if it'll be in 3.5... as suus tested it aparantly, i guess its kind'a safe?!?!?
suse 10.0 has it, it'd be a pity if a suse user upgrades 10.0 to the final kde 3.5 and finds a nice feature missing...
oh thats not something to worry about, its a different package i think... cause i updated and its still there haha but just warning you.. the suse packages for kde 3.5 beta 2 is buggy.. kontact is kinda buggy, and file management mode for konqueror uses up too much cpu... 99% :S
well, i guess the bugs are fixed in kde 3.5 as i don't see them here (KDE SVN, gentoo). and if you're right, i don't have to worry about the menu search :D
beta 1 packages worked quite fine, beta 2 is really messed with konqui being extremely slow, so im downgrading back to beta1..
Not a different package, suse menu patch is in kde 3.5 packages...
what happened to it? development seems to have gotten to a standstill.
It has the features a small bitmap paint application need and no grave bugs, what more development does it need?
It has lots planned, Morty, but it hasn't happened. I guess it's what happens when people let the KDE development cycle decide when the software gets updated. STALL
To repeat one of my earlier posts: the main developer had major problems with SVN. (I have no idea about his current situation.)
I think that this was/is the main reason why no significant development was done; it is not linked to any development cycle.
Have a nice day!
take a look at krita...
Maybe that's what you think of
tested the atlantik board game, the usability leaves room for improvements. And I was unable to disconnect.
But: this KDE 3.5 has a very good look and feel, it is different and better than before.
I used KDE 2.2, back then linux was so nice, but in KDE 3.x line kde was not that much inspiring any more. now I get again this positive feeling. This beta is quite stable.
Konqueror is still a bit slow in rendering but this is probably no real issue. The setting menu is still horrible. What are view profiles btw
For a beta this is stablissimo.
Why isnt Amarok shipped with KDE 3.5
menu panel / internet /
resort the menu. Browser shall come first. Sort by priority is better than bz alphabet.
mz personal opinion is than a menu as we have it with Ms Windows start menu is obsolete. You do not need it. This could be done via an xml/based browser and a local knowledge base. Everbody can use the www. Kde has kIoslaves. So why not search for an installed app by a google like search option or like html. If it on your computer you get an info page displayed which enables you to launch the app with one click. Further similar links to other applications or the group, a deinstall option, a link to an application related online web forum. If it is not installed a www page with application data is displazed which enables you to download the app by one klick.
amaroK is in the addons b/c of how they choose to release it(i.e. on their own release cycle).
The menu as you know it, should be changing quite a bit for kde4. Keep up to date on that by visiting canallaith's blog.
View profiles save the state of your current Konqueror: toolbars, position, URLs, tabs, split windows, etc. When you load a profile, it changes konqueror to the way you left it -- this allows you to save a useful and complicated setup, with different folders in a split view and exactly the functions you need in the toolbar, and load it when you need it.
The view profile you save as Web Browsing comes up when you start Konqi as a browser (and the URL you save in that comes up as your start page, as opposed to your home page.) The view profile you save as File Management comes up when you start Konqi as a File Manager. This allows you to have a simple firefox-like toolbar for web browsing, but a full-featured one for file browsing.
amaroK has releases separately, and much more often, than KDE.
Re menus: See programs:/ (which you can use tools->find on) and klik:/
These are steps in that direction.
I agree with you about the konqueror settings menu, why do you need a separate menu entry to configure spell checking!?
First of this is because you configure the KDE wide spell checking with this. Besides it's plainly more accessible located where it is now, rather than buried in some menu somewhere. When I need to change the spell checking I want it easy accessible, I don't want to hunt for it(If I have to it's more likely I just skip it). Lots of users, like me, regularly switch between two or more languages.
I downloaded konstruct and tried to build the beta, but I ran into a number of problems in the build process. I don't know if it's just me with a uncommon setup (RedHat EL3 WS), and most of the developers are running something like SUSE with all the up-to-date packages. But I've never had a completely trouble-free build experience.
First some issues with konstruct, checksum for kompose is mismatched, I had to manually update the checksum file. Also a suggestion, Makefiles should be provided for the apps directories so they can be built individually.
kdeaddons-3.4.92/kfile-plugins/cert failed to compile, it couldn't find the kerberos files which on the RedHat EL3 system lives under /usr/kerberos, I had to manually add the -I/usr/keberos/include -L/usr/keberos/lib to the CXXFLAGS, the configure script should've taken care of that.
There was another build problem, I forgot which package (kdebase?) that required the files libacl.{a,la} and libattr.{a,la} under /lib, when they're normally in /usr/lib, sounds like an autoconf problem.
metabar/src/Makefile failed to set KDE_INCLUDES to the KDE include headers, causing compilation to fail.
scribus failed compiling, after a little digging, it's found that my python is too old (2.2), while you need > 2.3 for python support, reran configure using --without-python, seemed to build fine, again, should've been taken care of by the autoconf scripts.
Finally, tellico (the collection manager), sounds like a really neat application that I want to use. But unfortunately, fails to compile, and this one I have not been able to resolve.
The error output is below:
In file included from tellico.all_cpp.cpp:40:
calendarhandler.cpp: In static member function `static void
Tellico::CalendarHandler::addLoans(Tellico::Vector,
KCal::CalendarResources*)':
calendarhandler.cpp:49: no matching function for call to `
KCal::CalendarResources::CalendarResources()'
/usr/local/kde3.5-beta2/include/libkcal/calendarresources.h:67: candidates are:
KCal::CalendarResources::CalendarResources(const KCal::CalendarResources&)
/usr/local/kde3.5-beta2/include/libkcal/calendarresources.h:161:
KCal::CalendarResources::CalendarResources(const QString&, const QString& =
QString::fromLatin1(const char*, int)(-1))
...
Maybe I should be reporting these issues on bugs.kde.org, instead of ranting here where no one is likely to read or do anyting about them. But using bugs.kde.org to report beta releases, especially on build issues, is a pretty frustrating experience, if there's a more appropriate place I'll be glad to post there. I hope the final release has these things cleaned up. But even with these issues KDE is still the best desktop anywhere, bar none.
Sometimes with build issues you can try the relevant mailinglists. But check the archives first, as it may already be reported or fixed.
Besides neither Scribus and Tellico has anything to do with the 3.5 beta, consult their respective homepages for the maintainers preferred way of feedback.
The KCal api changed. Tellico 1.0.3 should compile cleanly with kdepim 3.5.
OK, I've downloaded Klax, tested some stuff and I can't wait to report the bugs :)
But I can't. I forgot my bugs.kde.org password, and I've requested another one some 24 hours ago. And then another one today, suspecting that something had gone wrong with yesterdays request. I got no email until now.
Anybody knows whether there's a problem with bugs.kde.org? Or do I just need to wait some more?
If the problem cannot be solved by yourself (check email address, check also your spam filters), please ask the Sysadmins: [email protected]
Thanks.
kde 3.5beta2 is nice.. i installed it on SuSE 10.0
but, anybody knows, how to set a diffrent font-color for the taskbar-buttons ?
the default color is the same as the button-text-color. but if you use a dark kicker-background, then the text (on the taskbar) is unreadable.
before, i used "mtaskbar", it has got an option called "use window background color for text" and "show text glow". is there a possibility to set this options for the new "elegant or transparent" taskbar in KDE 3.5 ?
thanks
i think you have to resort to using another style which allows for this...
I think it is a good idea to have an option to choose the default font-color for taskbar buttons. Elegant mode is wonderfull but when the taskbar is transparent and the desktop wallpaper is dark the text is unreadable. There is one solution but I don't like it. From Control Center -> Appearance & Themes -> Colors -> Widget Color -> Window text you make the color to be white for example. It affects on the taskbar font-color but also on the menus (and I don't want to have white menus).
yes, that's right, if the menus are white, then i can't read the menus anymore.. it would be perfect, if the taskbar doesn't inherit the font color from the usual button in kde. taskbar should define its own fontcolor. and that should be configurable in the controlcenter/appearence/Colors.
just like the color setting "alternative background for lists".
i think, there should be even some more entries for other widgets. for example a color-setting kmenu, as long as kmenu doesn't support themes.
I see it has been sometime since the last post. I've been searching for a way to change font color of the taskbar only. I haven't found a way yet. The problem is unreadable text in the taskbar when using dark colors or non-contrasting colors. This seem quite the oversight. Has anyone figured a way to change the colors yet? Currently using KDE 3.5 on FC4.
1. right click on the task bar, select configure panel.
2. select the task bar icon in the configure KDE-Panel
3. from the Appearance option, select/ For Transparency /
4. apply
the result gives a stroked font, it's not perfect but its the only choice I have found for a dark background.
Going by whats happening in most of the posts in here, people are finally getting sick of the k-naming scheme. Hopefully KDE dev's take heed.