SEP
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2003

KAddressBook 3.2 Sneak Preview

As announced on the KDE PIM site, we are featuring a preview of the upcoming KAddressBook 3.2 in the form of some annotated screenshots taken from the CVS version. KAddressBook 3.2 will be included in the KDE 3.2 release.

Comments

it'd be neat to have something like http://pim.kde.org/img/screenshots/kaddressbook_cvs/3_2/kaddressbook_10.png

in a konqueror window with a people:/ kioslave.. hell you could even have a sidebar panel with the different catagories.

also, in the tooltip for each person, show the email and homepage for each person (like in the picture)

just an idea.


By anonymous abuser at Thu, 2003/09/04 - 5:00am

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with a people:/ kioslave
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I dunno -- kioslaves always make me feel a twinge of guilt, like some tiny creature is trapped in my computer and forced to perform services for me. A people:/kioslave would just be too creepy.

And, yes, I feel vaguely bad for slaved ATA devices, too.


By Otter at Thu, 2003/09/04 - 5:00am

Not to mention all those commands you've executed...

Rich.


By Richard Moore at Fri, 2003/09/05 - 5:00am

I'm very happy with all those improvements (I'm running KDE CVS), but what I'm still missing is _proper_ printout for ringbinders/planners/calendars. There are different ones in various (paper-)sizes, so it should be supported to set the page size and margins. The printwizard should also offer to print a number of sheets per A4-page (I know it's possible to select this in the printer settings but it resizes the pages in a wrong way). Then it should also draw the page borders, so you can cut them out and put them into your ringbinder.

I hope this will make it into 3.2 :-)

TK


By TK at Thu, 2003/09/04 - 5:00am

Great idea. Did you propose this at http://bugs.kde.org/ ?

Regards,

Dirk


By Dirk at Fri, 2003/09/05 - 5:00am

A part of this is already in CVS, but it hasn't got the options I mentioned above.


By TK at Sat, 2003/09/06 - 5:00am

I was going to add an envelope printer to the current addressbook, but I am wondering if it can be gotten in this round.
My father is missing the ability to easily print off a bunch of envelopes with addresses and OpenOffice is kind of a pain to use for that.


By a.c. at Fri, 2003/09/05 - 5:00am

KWord can access the address book data in newest version, so maybe you can create a KWord envelope template with mailmerge variables inside

Ciao,
Tobias


By Tobias Koenig at Sat, 2003/09/06 - 5:00am

It would be nice if one could edit directly in a view similar to the table view, spreadsheet style. Since it is already possible to create custom table views, one could then edit comfortably in a table of contacts showing only relevant fields. This would be useful both for entering several contacts at once and for adding to existing contacts.

(Disclaimer: I just looked at the screenshots; this may already be implemented somewhere or already suggested on the wish list. And if not I know I should add it to the wish list, but I'm too lazy, OK? Not that writing this disclaimer was any quicker than checking the bug tracking system would have been, but now it's done anyway...)


By Martin at Thu, 2003/09/04 - 5:00am

There were ideas to create a EU-Parliament address book in order to help the anti-swpat lobby effort and and other groups. Is KAdressbook suited for this purpose?


By Wurzelgeist at Thu, 2003/09/04 - 5:00am

Yes, it should work equally well in the Europe and the US.


By ac at Thu, 2003/09/04 - 5:00am

I really wish I could get the KAddressBook guys a few friends they need to try larger addressbooks. I was crushed to learn that still its performance is lacking for large addressbooks even on local resources.

While these features are cute, they are going to be a crushing disapointment for any company of more than 50 users who try to use it. Dont even try to share the resource via nfs, and forget ldap if you wish to see an addressbook yet this year.

Lets hope incremental loading and resource merging come sooner than later. A pretty UI is quite useless if I cannot manage my 5,000 contact addressbook, worse, try using kmail or any koffice (for grins enable an ldap resource and see 2-5 minute kword startup times) applications at that point :P

Oh well we have a few months until release, maby well get lucky. Then again it took ACT a few years to get down large addressbooks so im not holding my breath.


By Ian Reinhart Geiser at Thu, 2003/09/04 - 5:00am

Hi Ian,

Yes definitely an important issue, and one that was discussed at n7y. Do you know for LDAP if it's possible to get the number of addresses that match a search, and get say the i'th address from the list of addresses that match a search sorting by some arbitrary field?

Don.


By Don at Fri, 2003/09/05 - 5:00am

Yes, but the key problem is also present in my NIS addressbook plugin. On large networks its hard to deal with all the addresses. Now this is my fault because i load them all at once, but that is because its unclear if or how incremental loading works or will work.

Dont get me wrong, KAddressbook is lightyears better than it was, but now, it seems there is one fault that really makes it hard to use.


By Ian Reinhart Geiser at Fri, 2003/09/05 - 5:00am

The koffice startup time issue has been fixed - the addressbook is now only used in the "document info dialog". Update :)


By David Faure at Fri, 2003/09/05 - 5:00am

Cool :)

I just got my fast desktop cvs merged with my n7y code, so ideally I should see this in a few hours.


By Ian Reinhart Geiser at Fri, 2003/09/05 - 5:00am

will there be an easy way to use the addresses for mailmerge (in kword or openoffice)?


By AC at Thu, 2003/09/04 - 5:00am

Hm, one of the pictures showed the ldap lookup function, which already exists.
I hoped that KAdressbook would allow storing/editing addresses directly in a local ldap directory, which would mean to have synchronised addresses in KDE and OpenOffice.


By Carlo at Thu, 2003/09/04 - 5:00am

...the author's political views on the us army and what's in the about box.
Could someone post the screenshot of that?


By frizzo at Thu, 2003/09/04 - 5:00am

I thought that guy was the one who wrote Kaboodle? Anyway, what I heard he wrote was something about the US army providing the "freedom" that makes free software possible-- pretty typical right-wing blather if you ask me.


By stunji at Thu, 2003/09/04 - 5:00am

And that's a pretty typical liberalist (i.e. ignorant of how the real world works) response. Can I point you towards Ann Colters new book?


By Anonymous at Thu, 2003/09/04 - 5:00am

The real world doesn't work obviously.


By CE at Thu, 2003/09/04 - 5:00am

The real world works just fine. It's just us looking at it differently.


By Victor de Antoni at Mon, 2003/10/27 - 6:00am

>>>Anyway, what I heard he wrote was something about the US army providing the "freedom" that makes free software possible-- pretty typical right-wing blather if you ask me.<<<

That pretty typical ignoramus reply. Use the tabs in Konq to open more news sites than one.


By frizzo at Thu, 2003/09/04 - 5:00am

Hey, this subject has already been discussed and its useless to continue.


By Ned Flanders at Thu, 2003/09/04 - 5:00am

Okily, dokily there.
I'll check in some sarcasm into CVS next week, maybe you'll be able to use it.


By frizzo at Thu, 2003/09/04 - 5:00am

I just saw the sreen shots. That looks good. I can't wait to get it setup. Don't let us wait to long :-O

Best regards

Nils Valentin
Tokyo/Japan


By Nils Valentin at Fri, 2003/09/05 - 5:00am

As in Europe first the Postalcode is printet before the city name, itś not easely for me to fetch the address from contact card to another program. There sould be a function to define the format of ZIP-city or city-ZIP.


By Sven Fischer at Fri, 2003/09/05 - 5:00am

(Not in the UK it isn't, which is in principle at least in europe ;-) )

But yes, an option would be good.

Ed


By Ed Moyse at Fri, 2003/09/05 - 5:00am

please cold u gave me some zip/postalcode for any country u know?


By hossam at Wed, 2005/06/15 - 5:00am

please kindly give me the zip/postalcode of the Europe/American
thanks for helping me. infact this site is the
best among all. once again i say thanks.

from richlove.


By richlove at Thu, 2008/09/11 - 5:00am

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By taiwo at Thu, 2004/02/26 - 6:00am

i would like to know more postal codes of th UNITESD STATRES OF AMERICA


By hi at Wed, 2007/11/21 - 6:00am

kaddressbook is quite basic at the moment, all improvements are welcome.

What I'd still particularly like though is to link kaddressbook into kmail's filtering rules.
bug 26021.

keep up the good work whatever though.


By caoilte at Fri, 2003/09/05 - 5:00am

hi,
how is the list managment handelt in KAddressBook 3.2?
the most part missing in kmail is the non-intuitive list managment:

1. clicking at "new mail" and then at the button with the three point "...." to get the addressbook: no lists in there

2. no visual mark for a list, neither icon nor hightligtning

i am using kmail for my daily work and it would be great if this could change.
-gunnar


By gunnar at Fri, 2003/09/05 - 5:00am

On cvs HEAD, this brings up the address selection dialog. The available addresses are from Kaddressbook or recent addresses from kmail. You can make up distribution lists that can be saved. The addresses are categorized as they are in kaddressbook.

Works well.

Derek


By Derek Kite at Fri, 2003/09/05 - 5:00am

So, like will this sync with my palm pilot?

I understand kpilot will be part of the KDE-PIM, but what I really want is a unified address book so i dont have to copy stuff back and forth between the palm addressbook and the kaddressbook.

-john

(if kpilot already has this functionaity i wouldn't know since I've never been able to get it to sync. :( jpilot works tho)


By john at Fri, 2003/09/05 - 5:00am

Works here (in cvs HEAD). Shuffles things both ways.

Derek


By Derek Kite at Fri, 2003/09/05 - 5:00am

Currently I use evolution and http://multisync.sf.net to keep my S55 upto date, which sucks because my entire other enviroiment is kde :/


By nchip at Fri, 2003/09/05 - 5:00am

It's sad that evolution (in my experience the slowest IMAP client out of 3 the most functional linux GUI mail clients) is the only one with LDAP write support. Does KAddressBook have it yet, and if not, is it in the plan?

A complete LDAP browser (kio_ldap isn't there yet), competing with AD browsing in Windows, would also be nice ... and could be the way to implement write support (including uploading photos, digital certs, gpg keys etc) in KAddressbook


By ranger at Fri, 2003/09/05 - 5:00am

Hi,

yes, you can write to a local ldap directory. The problem is the limited number of supported attributes, since everybody has it's own ldap schema...

Ciao,
Tobias


By Tobias Koenig at Sat, 2003/09/06 - 5:00am

Why not parsing all existing schemes and let the user write plugins via scripting langauges/Kommandereditor?


By Carlo at Sat, 2003/09/06 - 5:00am

First, the screenshots show off some pretty great advances - thanks for all the hard work. Look forward to checking out the beta.

Not sure what all is included in this release but our biggest needs for using KAddressbook on a daily basis are:
1) Reliable, flawless synching with Palms (or could be Zaurus or whatever) - I read somewhere that KitchenSynch was to be added - for us, it is whatever works well. Lots of QA needed here. In the past we have lost data with Kpilot and that has caused us many problems and we've stayed away from it and rely on good old-fashioned spreadsheets and jpilot. Our Palms are vital for conducting business and it hurts not being in synch with our email.

2) Good integration with KMail for email lists - while OpenOffice mail merge is also desirable, we now do all our mass mailings by email - thus list management is very important.

3) An easy way to import data - can simply be comma, delimited CSV - ie we currently have lots of data in spreadsheets

4) Easy way to dupe cards (I think that's already in there)

5) Maybe a way to integrate with a scan device such as card scan or whatever, this typing in of cards has got to go and the world isn't quite ready to "beam" cards to each other.

6) A good way to share and synch files between users (ie my secretary types in the cards but then I need to use it - might require a private field or whatever.

Hope this feedback helps make an even greater program and would not be surprised if you are already ahead of this.
John


By sage at Fri, 2003/09/05 - 5:00am

Have you filed wishlist-items on bugs.kde.org?


By Marc Tespe at Fri, 2003/09/05 - 5:00am

csv import is in CVS.


By m. at Sat, 2003/09/06 - 5:00am

I hope it has Alt+S or somesuch to focus the search field...


By Tar at Fri, 2003/09/05 - 5:00am

I just want to second this -- the incremental search itself is very efficient, and I find that most of the time it takes me to do a search is spent clicking on the text entry field. A shortcut for this would be a significant enhancement for me.


By Andy Neitzke at Sat, 2003/09/06 - 5:00am

it's looking very good, and i defintely like the search functiona dn being able to put pictures adn sounds ;)

Great job Cornelius and Co!


By Alex at Sat, 2003/09/06 - 5:00am

Well, well, well.

In Spain we love KDE.


By Manuel Román at Sat, 2003/09/06 - 5:00am

Is there going to be better intergration between K-Mail and KAddressbook? Though I hate MS; Outlook Express automatically added new contacts to the addressbook when i e-mailed or replyed to them. Also in a new mail and were clickable and listed my contacts for selection, and in the address book, i could easily select contacts and then add them to each of those lists for a new mail.

If these features exist, then they are poorly presented cuz i can't find them in v.3.1


By Steven at Mon, 2003/09/08 - 5:00am

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