Kate Developer Sprint Next Month

Good news, indeed!
I was tracking the yzis progress and was actually trying to use it two years ago,
And it really really good that it is reviralising again!

I like kate because I use it for a lot of stuff, and lots for languages, many of which kdevelop doesn't support, so it is lighter and easier to use.

But I *really* loved the way kate worked a few releases back, where when you clicked on a file or opened one on the shell the same kate instance was re-used, instead of opening a new one.
I don't want to troll, and I know this has been discussed several times in bug reports and on the ML, but just wanted to say, I used it, I loved it, and I miss it :)

The fact that you are working with multiple files doers not necessary mean you are working on a project. Or if you do, it's not given that a KDevelop (or Quanta) project is up to the task. Sometime you want a editor able to handle multiple files, without the overhead of project management. For instance when you are working on bigger projects, or parts of such, like KDE, Linux kernel or something like uClinux. Sometimes you are only interested in working on a subset of the files, and very often there are no KDevelop project file.

Probably that there are lots of sysadmins using it to edit scripts or config files :P I mean, not everyone is a developer

I use Kate for Fortran development, and small C and Python projects as well. I have tried many other tools, but I find that I like the simplicity that Kate provides, but still has a nice interface and many features.

At the university I attend and study mechanical engineering, many of my peers have to develop on the linux clusters for just a few of their projects, so they don't know linux very well. After I introduce them to Kate and how to start it through an X11 tunnel, they tend to use Kate almost like a universal interface to the cluster. It has a terminal, it has file editing, and file management too, so it fills all of their needs in one program. Not what it was intended for, but it still seems to work well for them.

I should have mentioned that Kate consists of several parts:
1. Kate Editor Component, also called Kate Part
2. Kate Application, also called Kate
KDevelop uses the Kate Part. The meeting of course also focuses on the Kate Part. All applications using the Kate Part benefit automatically if it improves.

I use vi(m) when doing remote system or network administration.

Kwrite is my tool of choice when I write plain text documents that I will later copy-and-paste to some web sites or email around or some such.

Fully fledged kate is it when I hack on code. I don't want a complete IDE.More often than not, it gets in my way. The minimalistic project management kate offers is exactly what I want. So that is its role from my POV.

Uwe

KDevelop uses a very fix project file/directory structure, not useful in many cases.

> For editing multiple files at a time (which itself it means you're
> working on a project) there is Kdevelop

Kdevelop sucks. It's just a more complicated version of kate. Of cource, if you're developing with c/c++/qt, it's useful, but for every thinks else there is'nt any advantage. And now, that kdevelop3 has only this stupid spacewasting simple simpleIDEA-UI left, there is'nt any reason to use it.

I'm developing mostly python and pyqt-apps and use all the time kate. Of cource, kate sucks as well, but less. The UI can be minimalistic, and most of the missing features can be substitute with some nice scripts.

Yeah yeah, vi is great if you love to work in an archaic piece of sh*t on a commandline. If you're more the point-and-click type like most modern computer users, Kate is the best there is. (disclaimer: I myself use both Vi and Kate)

And does GIO use Fuse? I thought it didn't - it only might offer a Fuse interface in the future, like KIO-fuse (which is already old news - and nobody uses it).

It's not wysiwyg. It renders a few tokens as symbols. For instance, while one could use tokens to create accentuated characters, such as \'a for à, things become quite unreadable. Most people are not that hardcore and either input isolatin (or unicode) characters directly, or use x-symbol for the same effect while keeping the file in ASCII. X-symbol allows you to go one step further and render other tokens as symbols.

In any case, personally I don't even use it with LaTeX. But I find it great for use with other systems, such as theorem provers, since you can see proper math symbols in your formulas. And I would love to be able to use it with some programming languages.

Look at the bottom of the screenshot:
http://proofgeneral.inf.ed.ac.uk/images/pg-isa-screenshot.png

Inline spell checking is THE most interesting feature for kate I think.

It's not wysiwyg, it's giving code written it TeX some possibilities that are just fine in XML. E.g.: if you want to type the pi constant, in TeX you have to type \pi. In XML you can use π, but if you are using UTF-8, you can also type the real character with the keyboard, or with kcharselect (I can't type it here, because the software that runs the site is very outdated).

In mathematical formulas this sucks a lot, because not only the code becomes much less readable, but also the lines become a lot longer, and it's very difficult to wrap each line of the code to 80 characters, and still making each line a step of some calculation.